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Ideology doesn't require spirituality.define spirituality please because it seems you have very limited view on that term the quality or state of being concerned with religion or religious matters : the quality or state of being spiritual

Ideology doesn't require spirituality.

My point was that we are compelled to participate in the economy by necessity. To survive, the wistful communist must seek employment from a firm in order to survive because the wistful communist needs the compensation he receives in order to buy basic necessities. I suppose one could argue that a co-op structure would be a method to avoid this predicament, but other than a few grocery markets in urban cities I am struggling to think of any and as such opting out of the capitalist economy is practically impossible. As to variety of choices, I think we're arguing more for a method of distribution than a method of production. I don't believe that the idea of a market is necessarily capitalist, or even incompatible with socialism if using the definition of non-private control over production. The use of the central planning and command economy by certain states was more due to ideology, in this case being that the state can take the place of capitalism from Marxist theory in order to rapidly industrialize effectively feudal economies, than practicality. Happens to me all the time. Admittedly I'm not an expert on PRC law, but I thought that Property Law of the People's Republic of China established private ownership of property and as such property rights rather than property leasing. To turn a phrase, I think that China is operating under "Capitalism with Chinese characteristics". In practice this is an authoritarian state that lets firms operate as they please as long as they "play ball" as it were.

I had this whole elaborate BS I was gonna go through to get a proper response to this, but it seems it was going to be even more tedious than I initially imagined. Okay, the ending of an the episode, "The midnight sun" of the Twilight Zone has an old lady looking out a window saying, "Oh yes... Wonderful..." With a look of fear and dread on her face (if you don't know the context I'm not explaining it for you). I was going to download that episode from Youtube and cut out that specific part and use it as a response. However, I guess it isn't on Youtube even though old shows are usually on Youtube, so screw it. So just imagine an old lady looking out a window with a look of despair and dread saying, "Oh yes... Wonderful..." That should do it.

Freedom wins over white privilege again. What are property rights if not the legal enforcement of ownership of production? And how does China not enforce this?

How does an economic system based upon private ownership of property(means of production) require personal freedom? China is operating under an economic system with private property and less state interference than the US, would you say they are doing well with personal freedom and individual liberty? You're essentially making the same argument that if you don't like the government, just don't participate in it. Personally I'd be more than happy to not deal with taxes or jury duty, but it shouldn't have to be explained we are under threat of force to do those things. To address your argument directly, what you are describing is some sort of ethical consumerism, not non participation. Non-participation would require not dealing with property(means of production) that were privately owned. With material conditions being what they are, the only ways to accomplish that are either through pulling a Crusoe(which realistically is not an option for many and has a low saturation point of people who can do it) or starvation. While you may view the choice of starvation or servitude as being freedom of the highest order, to others it is an implicit threat no different than the Soviet Union giving them the choice between compliance or death. You're conflating socialism with the welfare state. And we have that situation in the US with taxes already, if you don't think that's at gunpoint(ie threat of force) try not paying them. Every state is built around keeping citizens in line and protecting the interests of the ruling classes, some are just better at creating the illusion of freedom than others. I agree, but how can one live the life that suits them best if they are bound to a state which tells them to get inline or else? Or bound to an economic system that demands either servitude or starvation?

1. A new faction for NV 2. A quest mod involving a pack cow 3. An ambitious mod to bring Ascension to the BGEEs

Thank god bonus XP is over. On lower level toons I would end up hilariously overleveled for whatever planet I was on and the only challenging bits were pvp. Granted I'd usually end up with a meh team in warzones, but at least it wasn't as boring as rolling over mobs and bosses with no trouble.

Given Bruce's desire for a large coalition of neoliberal republics(so long as they vote right, if not a new leadership is put on charge) and Qisinta's dogmatic Islamic beliefs, their children will install a series of Islamic Capitalist Republics in Europe and band them together as Islamic Capitalist European Democratic-Territories or ICED-T. Through ICED-T hey will slowly spread throughout the world creating a Caliphate known as Confederate of the Original Brotherhood Republics of Allah or COBRA.

I'm going to be very drunk tonight so if my posts seem weirder than normal that's the reason why.

1, as in unfortunately sober. I look forward to seeing many converts to the most capitalist religion besides scientology to celebrate Bruce and Qisintas wedding.

I bumped an awesome thread.

Bump for awesomeness. Christianity has no basis in ties to any economic system. Islam however is explicitly incompatible with socialism due to the requirements of respecting property and as such is suited to capitalism or feudalism. Prove me wrong my property.

1. Huh? The majority of media portrays cops, even renegade cops, as the heroes and thieves as the villains. Heist films are the exception and in those cases cops are corrupt and thieves have redeeming qualities that fit with much of common morality. 2. Tumblr doesn't like egoism because it categorizes identities as spooks, ie fictional illusions of the mind. Such a realization that they have built an identity based on fiction shocks them to their core and results in strange reactions. And I never had a cat avatar. 3. They are dreaming most of the time. Who is to say their dreams are an endless repetition? 4. All of those can be destroyed or forgotten. Why should I concern myself the value of my actions when I can do what pleases me instead?

You've never encountered an ancap it seems. Regardless that isn't an answer. In most fiction we see the lawman is the hero while the outlaw is the villain. Why is it that we are meant to sympathize with those who support order and disapprove of those who oppose it? If I wanted to spout edgy bull**** I'd be complaining about jewish plots to cuck the white man or the vast cispatriarcal oppression of whatever to fuel the patriarchy. As it is, I despise both conformity and routine and as such spend my time celebrating myself as the unique one with everyone and everything existing as my property. Does this opinion come from your experience as an Elder One? If not how would you have an informed opinion on the unknowable? What legacy is that? Genetic donors for offspring who will forget you? Building a monument to another entity's glory? Your life is meaningless in the grand scheme, a grain of sand in a vast desert. You might as well do what you enjoy rather than chain yourself due to false morality.

Or perhaps the villains were likeable but one was held back by misplaced morality. Why is the thief who does what pleases him less likeable than the detective who unquestionably serves against his material interests? How is becoming a mass of tentacles less desirable than becoming enslaved by repetition? Doomed to complete the same tasks everyday with no hope of escape while having one's will crushed until all that remains is an organic automation seems no more unappealing than becoming a bizarre creature. Then the realization that the human life is a blink of the eye and you will be forgotten in two generations should suffice.

They are. True terror is not witnessing a horrendous monster, it is realizing the horrendous monster is a person driven by self-interest.

Then why the hell do you need unlimited time and money then? I already have it. You know it is pointless to keep this up if all you're going to do is keep using circular logic. Speaking of Elder monsters, where is Nepenthe? Everything is pointless so you might as well do what makes you happy. And Nep ended up becoming a deep one.

Then why the hell do you need unlimited time and money then? I already have it.

"Turn"? I've been an old one feeding off the insanity of promancers to grow stronger the entire time.

"Starting" At any rate I will use my power to sacrifice humanity and become a god-like being that travels the universe consuming worlds.

What happens when they run out of states?

Well Lemmy just died.

If we had unlimited resources, what would stop us from creating artificial islands or colonizing Mars and the moon? More realistically, as realistically as immediate post-resource scarcity is at any rate, why would the response be to start killing rather than utilizing infinite resources to build new shelter or moving somewhere else? Especially considering that killing is the option with more negative consequences and effort involved. The standard response to the time machine is "kill Hitler".

Why would you want to live in hot sweaty areas when you can live in temperate forests? Why would you live by the sea when you can enjoy the open plains? People have different tastes in all kinds of stuff, including habitats.