TrashMan

Dogs rule.

WW1 history in a nutshell: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/187/3/0/World_War_One__Simple_Version_by_AngusMcLeod.jpg

MORE: http://www.projectafterforums.com/uploads/monthly_04_2012/post-384-1335616218.jpg

Two big (but funny) images http://static.epicsnaps.com/admin/uploads/epicsnaps.com/CSI.jpg http://www.projectafterforums.com/uploads/monthly_04_2012/post-305-1335136574.jpg

Both sides are somewhat right.. and somewhat wrong. "Justice" is unnatinable. Total victory is any side would be a mockery of justice. The Status Quo pretty much is already.

"While in the detention facility I had the opportunity to converse with several guards. The first guard was a young woman. Upon entering the facility another male guard had made comment about how beautiful she was. As we sat outside I said to her, “You know that is sexual harassment. This is your work space. He can’t treat you like that.”" Really now? Saying a woman is beautiful is sexual harassment now? Now I know to never call them beautiful.

And the WW1 british and the UN were idiots. Deportation and forced re-location has never, EVER solved a problem in history. And speaking of "rights" to the land - if you lived there long enough, you have "right". That's it. Ancient historical right - irrelevant. History is history. Even just 2-3 generations is enough. A child who was born in that land, and it is all it knows, for that child - for that person - that land *IS* his. The emotional connection is there. So at this point taking exclusive claims is pointless and self-defeating. The jews should have never been settled there in the first place, but now that it's done, it's done. They feel like it's their land and they are right to feel that. But the Palestinians aren't wrong either. Their land WAS taken from them and they are treated like crap. The UN was rather generous with OTHER PEOPLES land, so there a massive amount of d***ery going on. A compromise is needed, but it looks like it ain't happening. Israel has no interest in it as long as it knows it can get away with what it does, and it's hard for any moderate to get into position of power on the palestinian side (in no small thanks to Israels actions)

I don't. Israel doing the heavy lifting? Please, it keeps ignoring all UN resolutions, it keep bulldozing settlements, it keeps building it's own settlements. Israel has done nothing but expand and taking the best pieces of land. Oh sure, there is condemnation and pressure from the world, but it amounts to nothing. In 5 minutes people are distracted with other news and forget about. But nothing has changed. Israel knows it can get away with what it does, so it does it. Never said it was the only standard, BUT body count IS more objective that any other standard you can provide. Especially in the context that most of those bodies belong to civilians. I don't really care which country does this s****, but you don't friggin bulldoze homes and cluster bombs entire areas just to get one guy (that probably isn't there to begin with). Israel is supposed to be a modern country, with high-tech, drones, accurate weaponry and such. The civilian body count it keeps racking up among the palestinains is inexcusable and unaceptable.

Yes, Palestinaian cruelty is why so far the number of dead and injured on both sides is so euqal. Oh, wait, no it's not.

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I don't recall much effort from Israel. Any time they offer their hand, they have a knife in the other hand. So really, both suck.

Sadly, I think he is right. Sad stories catch the peoples attention for a few minutes - until another story comes along. We are bombareded with all kinds of information for various media, with claims and counter-claim, and with our own problems. Thus we get distracted or bored rather quick.

Surely it will depend largely upon whether or not the rest of the party is wicked or innocent. There is no such thing as innocence - only degrees of guilt!

My usual RPG party setup: Paladin (Pc, leader) elven female sorceress (damage spec) old male human archmage (utility, versatility) elven male ranger dwarf fighter (or fighter/cleric) human cleric (or priest or fighter/cleric)

Also, it would be best not to assume too much about someone just based on a few sentances of text and use of words. While it may seem clear to you that you know exactly what they meant and HOW they meant it, in 99% of cases, it's not true. So let's keep this civil without calling people racist or stuff just because they said "Black Guy" or whatever.

Life ain't fair. To expect that every group or desire recieves equal amount of attention or content will never happen. That said, everyone has the right to fight for what they desire.

Given that me and beer (and alchocol in general) generally don't associate, this product does not spark my interest at all.