Chippy

A devout Guiness drinker. The chilled version is better than the original.

Meet Volourn. Things to know: 1: The EU are nazi SJW's. 2: The USA are nazi SJWs. 3: Canada is the land of nazi SJW's. 4: Volourn's parents were killed by nazi SJW's; which is ironic considering they were nazi SJW's too. 5: You are a nazi SJW. I know Volourn is the princess of trolls at the COdex and bro-fisting him too often might seem suspect by SJW's - but I totally agree with him on this. Hitler didn't limit himself to the political far right when he took over Austria: And when you sees her suprise at the end, talking about how Obama wants people to report their neighbours for criticising him, you can see how that has been implemented: So it worries me when Hillary Clinton talks about the state raising your kids (like Hitler said "Give me the children") and Obama talks about having a civilian national security force - you have to ask where they will be recruiting from, and what face will the Brown Shirts of the future take?. @Bruce: so I answered your previous question as best as I could, but you didn't answer me on whether the mounting evidence against Hillary Clinton outweighed your perception of the flaws of Trump , am still wondering.

I reject this post completely, the EU has to enforce certain rules and laws in order for the union to function This is to be expected and is necessary. What is a example of this severe EU bullying:? Pffft, I could spend the rest of my sunday answering how the EU bully. I thought it would be enough to just provide evidence of where a democratic vote has taken place and the EU has just ignored it, or told countries to repeatedly vote again until the EU got the vote they wanted. But the counter argument seems to be - who cares we're all richer together as European people. Some examples of EU bullying: Trade - it tells us who we can trade with and more importantly who we can't. As a result of Brexit Britain may now be able to trade with former Europen partners, other commonwealth countries, the United States (if Trump wins) and even China has expressed an interest. Taxpayers money to EU leaders: The average salary is between £200,000 - 250,000 for these people at the top of the EU to tell us how to live. It was estimated in 2008 by an organization know as Open Europe that the EU only need 23,000 people to run it, but apparently is employing over 7 times that number. An army of bureaucrats that tell us such things as the EU regulations on the sale of cabbage - a total of 26,911 words. It's estimated that Britain sends 53m a day to the EU. EU demands: The EU demanded in 2015 that Britain pay 1.7billion for being a member of the EU. David Cameron paid. So our former Prime Minister (and he was pro EU) gets jacked, and pays out out like any good leader of any vassal state would - so what chance has a "democratically appointed representative" got?. Democracy: David Cameron negotiated a deal to protect small and medium buisness, curb taxpayers spending on immigration, and laws regulating taxpayers money on the eurozone - they agreed...and everyone knew that it could be ripped up at any time. Tax: Before the EU got its tentacles into the British tax system, we were only taxed on luxury goods and essentials were exempt. By taxing service goods, it allows the EU to tax the economies of service based/developing countries to prevent them from competing with other countries outside of the EU, and this puts higher taxes on taxpayers because the base/living cost to people on benefits goes up - while taxpayers are also hit for service goods. Pension: Before Brexit, the EU wanted control of the pension system. To continue the existing pension scheme, the EU proposed Britain would have to come up with fifteen times it's current defence budget - thats 35m x15. Their response was that 'the money would simply have to be found.' Security/Free Speech: The elephant in the room. The EU wants open borders, Hillary Clinton wants to see how it all works out. It's such a huge topic - but we've got the EU implementing hate speech laws for people concerned about security, jobs, and the countries capacity, and if EU judges/laws decide an offence has been commited, they are able to override the decisions of local judges and drag people out of their respected countries to be tried in foreign courts. Education: I spent a few years teaching, government expectations were that I should have been teaching no more than 60 adult high risk offenders per year - I was teaching between 1200 - 1500 per year. A significant portion were migrants. Courses that should have bee 400hours long were reduced to 30 hours to create this conveyor belt system of producing "work ready" offenders the government had written off as unemployable, and likely to be on benefits for the rest of their lives. Just one example of how the figures are fiddled and everyone looses. Public Health service: Our NHS is falling apart, people at the top are paid almost as much as the EU leaders - if they gave a damn about any of the above, they would have put it at the top of their list. You only have to ask people in their 70' and 80' how their overall quality of life has fropped in the past decades. I think the only time Britain stood up to the EU before Brexit was when it insisted on a particular curvature of the cucumber and bannana. Germany is economically better off because it's generally accepted that Britains managers and top execs are crap by comparison - but maybe that's what we get for eatin bent cucumbers and bannanas. Sources: http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/677801/new-EU-threat-pension-expert-vote-leave-protect-retirement-pots?_ga=1.253103883.308668831.1476644930 http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/eu-referendum-issues-for-against-11020375 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/16/leave-or-remain-in-the-eu-the-arguments-for-and-against-brexit/

Hi, I sometimes link to stuff here from youtube, and on going back to the post after posting it - the link has completely dissapeared. This is just copy - pasting the link... So just hoping Etta James' greatest hits got linked to above. Edit: Nope, nothing - but it appears before I click post. Any ideas? Much appreciated.

But who decides the specifics of sovereignty you give up across the whole of society?. For the working class, the inheritance tax is the most crippling tax any government can impose, and every other government has said they'll remove it on election. Anyone can see that they're either lying, or it's imposed by the EU. So you've got an entire class of people who can only expect their living conditions to stay the same from one generation to the next (unless their kids somehow springboard over the public school education given them), and as soon as something major happens in the economy - for instance, house prices in the UK, you have a situation where children are working just as long and just as hard as their parents, but are decades behind in terms of quality of life. As far as Farage goes, I honestly think he's trying to raise the image of the party from accusations of right wing racists, etc. He said the conservatives would have ignored him anyway. I linked to a video in my previous post that shows waht he gets wherever he goes, but it doesn't seem to be visible.

Sexbots.

Huma better have an exit strategy...

So were just going in circles then, because once again; I'm behind Nigel Farage in his criticism that I didn't vote for the EU. Pushing your luck I'm afraid. I see the argument, but I don't see it as a very good one. The EU ultimately is good-it has assured one of the longest periods of peace in Europe. And while it definitely has its flaws, those flaws need to be corrected to create a EU that works. Te solution is fixing, not leaving. The last EU parliament election, only 30% of EU citizens voted. Now that's a horrible figure, and we need to get people to get more into politics. But the solution can't be "let's see if we like it and if not let's leave", it should be "we signed up for this, let's fix it". And before considering leaving, people should start considering voting. So were going in circles then, as I'm behind Nigel Farage in that I didn't vote for unelected politicians in the EU directing how the British elected party runs the country.

Thank you - it's nice to see civil discussion and the mutual acknowledgement of argument - I may be pushing my luck here, but maybe you can see how people in my position (who can reflect and evaluate on 4 generations of family being screwed over by government) arrive at the conclusion and are wary of governments who ignore the will of the people, and the democratic process by justifying themselves as "we the collective people of Europe" over "you, the individual nationalists" know what's right and best for everyone, and vote against it.

The subject is whether or not the EU respects the democracy of the countries that are a part of it - you can evaluate each piece of evidence to whatever standards of validity you hold, and attack the character of people like NIgel Farage as you like (I think he's used to it by now) and it makes for an interesting read - but are you denying that the EU overturned the many examples of the democratic vote in each of the countries from the examples given?. I just did a quick search on this, there are multiple examples that could fill an entire page of sources - but why bother; what the EU did in Greece is the perfect example.

Well, I don't agree with everything Trump has said - splitting families up and deporting them (although I think he backtracked on that one). But surely when you see the president of Haiti saying the Clinton foundation didn't transfer the 13 billion to them, or Hillary Clinton saying she's a feminist while laughing at the 12 yr old rape victim, and threatening Bill Clinton's victims, or the personal aid (Huma is it?) whom she considers a daughter, but who's actual mother supports female genital mutilation and female terrorist acts. Or the wikileaks exposing her attempt to bribe the FBI investigator and the apparent $650,000 transfered from a top aid members account to his wifes before he found her not guilty...etc,etc, Just seeing her do that "We came,we saw,he died" dance and facial expression over the death of Gadafi gave me the chills, and I'm not too trained in facial expression and body language - but they should be calling her Chucky Clinton after that one. It doesn't put any doubt in you at all? The American people arn't voting for a living saint - Trump could be going full Tony Soprano on the GM, Ford. other car execs and threatening to grab their wives by the _____ but do you honestly think that who he is is so much more deplorable than who Hillary Clinton represents ?. Edit: Oh - almost forgot... ...World War 3 likely if Chucky Clinton gets in.

How is the EU government unelected? Parliament is elected directly, council consists of our (elected) governments, commissions are put in place by (elected) governments. Just research the Lisbon Treaty or the Greek bailout referendum, "...respect the fact that the French, the Dutch and the Irish voted no.. What kind of democracy is it that says that you voted this way, you got it wrong and you've got to do it again". -Nigel Farage "Two European Union governments have now been toppled in coups – bloodless and genteel coups, but coups nonetheless. In Greece and in Italy, elected prime ministers have been overthrown by Eurocrats. Greece is now run by a former vice-president of the European Central Bank, Lucas Papademos; Italy by a former European Commissioner, Mario Monti. Neither man has ever submitted himself to the ballot box. Both head what are called ‘national governments’ – though they have been put together solely to implement programmes that their nations reject." Something else to consider: "Take the following as examples: From January 2006, it became illegal to repair your own domestic plumbing, electrics or even your own car. If you buy a boat over six feet long, built after 1999, you will be required to pay the equivalent in Euros of £4000, or face six months in prison. As the EU `Police State` flexes it's muscles ever more, each of us will live under the fear and threat of arrest or prosecution for any one of a myriad of offences, even minor ones." This may seem out of place, but I worked withing the criminal system - and although it warrants anoyther thread - criminalising the average citizen is big buisness. Within 5 years the government in the UK can potentially make more from an offender going through the system than 20 years of tax at minimum wage. A criminal record, the enormous amount of regulations they are imposing on small buisnesses, or the constantly expanding tax systems (including the crippling inheritance tax) also funnels prospects for the future, which in my oppinion is gradually leading here: "Europe's nations should be guided towards the super-state without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will eventually and irreversibly lead to federation." Jean Monnet (Founding Father Of The EU in a letter to a friend 30th April 1952).). You may consider this conspiracy theory level stuff, but what we are seeing from the EU is stranger than fiction. Source: The End Of The Nation States Of Europe The Irish Referendum On The Lisbon Treaty October 2nd 2009 By Philip Jones http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2063756/Eurocrats-imposed-Greece-Italy-Id-governed-100-people-phone-book.html http://www.rense.com/general87/nationstates.htm

I vaguely remember the Tim Schafer **** up, I'll have to review that.

Ahh. I always wanted to move to Canada. The thought of having a cabin in the woods, the moose, the bears, the big cats and bigger spiders didn't faze me at all. The fact that Canada exported cancer to the rest of the world (Asbestos) and still had a 25 years plan to continue after 2010 spoke to me as a country for manly men just like Schwarzenegger said. But then I saw the slutwalks and... I don't think I've got what it takes to be a Canadian. Besides if Trump wins you guys are guaranteed going to war over his pronoun usage.

You mean the Justin Trudeau kind of man, that visits a mosque and talks about how great it is that diversity and equal opportunities are working - while he's surrounded by the men, and the women are sitting at the back of the mosque, hidden away on the upper floor?. Or the Chuck Norris kind of man?

My mistake, thanks for that.

“If we want to reform human rights laws in this country, it isn't the EU we should leave but the ECHR and the jurisdiction of its Court.” Theresa May Theresa May talks, but has a history of not actually doing anything. The only way to know what she is planning is (if) she actually does it.

I am curious about the reasoning behind some of the Hillary supporters - Bruce seems like a reasonable chap; I'm sure I'd buy you a beer at a pub and agree on the concept to disagree and freedom of speech, so - when you come across certain things about Hillary Clinton, like her oppinion on Black people (as super predators) or Robert Byrd, or when she laughed about the 12 year old rape victim/evidence presented, the George Soros connection, and all the other (long) list of things that would send other people to jail, or in my oppinion, at least be a limiting factor in who I voted for. ...Doesn't it change your voting choice of candidate at all? Is Trump really so much worse by comparison? Does he represent the "enemy" that much?.

Don't support the EU. Everyone made Brexit about immigration, but for some the fact that unelected leaders in the EU made 75% of laws in Britain was enough of a reason to leave. If you support democracy and a potential change in party every four years, I find it strange that people would consider this type of state-wide government appealing.

I'm curious about this - I read on the site that you need a million in assets, or that they might open it up to anyone without assets at all... Not much info.

Seems about as relevant as Pidesco's screed. Course, I didn't make it on the "gets to decide what's relevant committee," so I'm just speaking as a concerned citizen. Personally, I think Chippy should keep up the good fight. Then again, I think everyone on all sides should keep up the good fight. Why not? Politics, like race relations and religion, is the best in forum fodder. Unless someone figures out a way crawl through the internets and assault someone else, safe place to spar. Far as Pidesco blaming Republicans for Hillary Clinton, was splendid. Literally made me chuckle to see it. Thanks, but seriously it's like a SJW zombie horde apocalypse on these forums, I don't know how you rational guy's manage. If my link to 'Trumps son's kill a Triceratops' vid was working (and the other one of Hillary supporting the Grand Dragon of the KKK) was commented on I would get it, but "hey: all Trump supporters are fledgling Nazi's" from a moderator is beyond weird. Plus it was in California that they polled people on the effects of killing the Triceratops, so I'm kinda concerned that Obsidian (being based there) might have actually been among those interviewed, and I'd prefer not to find out one of my favourite companies thinks that the sabre tooth tiger is still prancing around Canada being fed ice cream by SJW Bioware employees...so ignorance is bliss. I need a break.

"So the rise of the extreme right in Western civilization interests me because it is in direct opposition to the cushy, relatively safe life we have enjoyed since the extreme right was soundly defeated in WW2". That's pretty heavy. I think I'll take a break from posting on these forums for a while, but with all due respect - please look up how many Admirals, Generals, and Medal of Honor citizens of America have placed their support and faith in Donal Trump. All the best.

For me it's because America leads and other countries follow. I know Britain and America have a history, but I think politicians here follow what your leaders do in America. Just the other day I heard our government wants to label a terrorist act as a "Anti Muslim activity". I see this as a link to Obama's PC policies, and am sure I don't need to go into how disrespectful to people who have lost their lives, and how divisive I think this language policing is.

If I was in America and the left hadn't created the SJW's and done all the damage Obama has done, I'd have voted Libertarian, but think Trump is needed to undo all of that.

Exactly - This isn't really a nail in the coffin. Seeing Hillary and Bill Clinton at the funeral of the Grand Dragon of the KKK on the other hand... Secretary Clinton Comments on the Passing of Robert Byrd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4wo9nqWrwE As Byrd once announced: “I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.” -The link's arn't showing, but can easily be found on Youtube.