Purkake

Oh boy, are we going to have an old fashioned Bioware bash? Let me get my anti-dialogue wheel cudgel.

The complete lack of hype and/or marketing for Mafia 2 is really sad. http://store.steampowered.com/ I meant in the general gaming public. I'm sure there's a banner on the official 2K site as well. Nice that they're giving out the first game with the pre-order. All the self-proclaimed "story-driven" game fans should go and play that, it's a has a very nice story.

Nice reference to the Human Centipede He did backpedal a little, saying that Bioshock's combat was unforgiving and you needed all the powers. In the original Bioshock review he said that you could do just as well with the wrench and the lightning power with the others being useless gimmicks...

The complete lack of hype and/or marketing for Mafia 2 is really sad. Haters are free to hate, this game won't live or die by the PC numbers.

Dead Space is more of an improvement on the Resident Evil formula, if you like that kind of games. And whatever your expectations, it' still too long.

Piano wire wasn't that hard to use and you could do takedowns by punching people from behind, at least in Blood Money.

I bought the Collector's Edition. At least you got a pretty little paperweight out of it. Go play DeadSpace if your looking for the second coming of System Shock (1 and 2). Does not compute.

"Why not a gentlemanly deal? You finish ME2 and Volo will finish AP and then you can have a pistol duel at dawn to determine which game is truly better." Sound familiar? I was obviously kidding. Why? How many of Drew's game must I play before I can say that his writing is terrible without risking losing "credibility"? Are you arguing that I must play every single one before I can make assumptions ABOUT THE WRITING? Clearly you are missing the point I've raised repeatedly that if we are going to compare the two games ON THE BASIS OF THE WRITING, that I'm confident AP will win? Because I like to pull **** out of my ***? Or perhaps I feel I have a greater-than-passing familiarity with both writer's work? I mention the writing here specifically because I've already conceded that you can have whatever argument you wish to have about the shooting. I've also invited you to introduce whatever other areas of overlap you feel the two games have. About 3 times now. Just the one you're talking about. Also, as you seem to have missed it the last couple of times I've posted it, I do not wish to discuss AP or it's similarity comparability to ME2.

Coming to PC, 360 and PS3 in 2011: And a new teaser

It's certainly worth checking out, just for the cool art deco stuff and old music. I made the mistake of getting all hyped for the second coming of System Shock.

Well, you can still loose ~20h of your life, but it's not really that bad if you know what to expect.

Bu... but tradition aand... things.

That arguments for or against one game should not be dependent upon the arguments for or against another, dissimilar game seems like bizarre logic to you? Perhaps the problem is not me, sir. EDIT: P.S. You've been invited repeatedly to point out where I am wrong and instead have opted to repeat yourself, say you were leaving, and resort to name-calling. Should I assume that you have nothing legitimate to contribute to this conversation? I'm still not arguing whether or not we should compare games to each other, how hard is that to understand? I'm arguing that you can't make any arguments about ME2, in whatever context without having played it, or at least do it with any credibility. I repeat myself, because you don't seem to understand.

Your brand of logic seems to work pretty bizarrely.

Info about the faction in New Vegas.

...because you don't need any credibility to make arguments here.

Volo was laughed out for not playing the whole game, you haven't played it(ME2, that is) at all.

My philosophy is that I could be reading/watching/playing something that I haven't before instead of something that I have already. Different strokes.

You presume too much and continue to miss my point. I get it that you don't want AP compared to ME2. I don't care about Alpha Protocol's virtues and follies whether compared to ME2 or on it's own, I have had discussion many times in many previous threads. My point was that you can't say that ME2 is in a different genre from AP if you haven't played it.

I mean the hypothetical future Obsidian Chrono game.

I'm very distinctly trying to not get involved in the AP vs ME2 argument you were having. As for invitations, if you were having a private conversation, you chose the wrong medium. How exactly are you arguing that no one should compare the two games if you haven't played one of them? It doesn't make any sense. Mind you, I'm not saying that ME2 is AP's direct nemesis, but you don't have a leg to stand on if you haven't played the game.

Obviously you're on top of things. So, how about that badly animated, choice based Chrono Trigger with influenceable characters?

There is FFTA2 and a handful of weird Japanese SRPGs like Disgaea.

Oh please! I'm not going to argue whether ME2 is an RPG or not, you can have that conversation with Volo. Neither am I going to defend either game, they both had their flaws. My point was that you are both arguing about two imaginary games, one based on you playing the previous game and one based on playing the first few hours. Just pointing out the ridiculousness.