BruceVC
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No apology warranted. Next time post the links with your accusation. Come on Vals, you called his bluff and he proved you wrong. You need to have the maturity to apologize or at least say " I am wrong, you were right" I have said this before but there is a serious problem on these forums with some people not being able to accept they are wrong on any point or concede that someone may be right about something that they dispute There was no bluff called. He came here initially trolling and I called him on it. To his credit he came back and took off his troll outfit. Honestly can you explain how he was trolling? I don't understand how you guys can throw this term around when it comes to some people...NKKK said Bundy was racist. Why is this trolling?
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Wow, so much for Bundy being this great hero who stood against the Federal government. He is nothing but an ignorant racist
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No apology warranted. Next time post the links with your accusation. Come on Vals, you called his bluff and he proved you wrong. You need to have the maturity to apologize or at least say " I am wrong, you were right" I have said this before but there is a serious problem on these forums with some people not being able to accept they are wrong on any point or concede that someone may be right about something that they dispute
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I really glad you raised the point about a referendum in Eastern Ukraine. That is the obvious solution and I missed it. But it needs to be monitored by Western and Russian observers so its credible. Not like the joke of a referendum in Crimea And you are right, by attacking pro-Russian supporters they are doing exactly what Putin wants and now he has a pretence to invade and basically annex what parts of Eastern Ukraine "Russian speaking citizens are being attacked in" Putin is a brilliant strategist I'll give him that
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Let's All Watch A Fedora Man Destroy Himself Online
BruceVC replied to Bryy's topic in Way Off-Topic
I suppose you could have been offended by what he said to her and the way he dismissed her. As I mentioned it wasn't just a " no I don't like you " it was a personal and malicious rejection of her attention. I was offended and annoyed by his comments -
Dismemberment of the Ukrainian state, subjugation to Russia, continued economic deterioration, restoration of Yanukovych oligarchy, you know, the works. You got me. If Ukraine once again becomes part of the Motherland, I stand to gain a promotion to Senior Colonel with the FSB for my valiant efforts in the Obsidian Entertainment Forums, and you know what that means—I'll actually get to use the restroom instead of pissing in a bucket when nobody is looking. Seriously though, I haven't the slightest idea how to solve this at this point. But I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that sending in the army is not the best solution (assuming it's a solution at all). There's also the irony that these uprisings are A-OK to crush under a soldier's boot, but those in Kiev a few months ago weren't. As I mentioned I also don't have the best solution. For example a federal solution for parts of eastern Ukraine won't be accepted by the Ukrainian government and I can understand why. But then we need to ask " is it worth raising the military tensions with Russia over Ukraine" or getting to the point where there is full blown civil war in Ukraine between Russia and the current Ukrainian government. This is where it is leading http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/23/russia-ukraine_n_5199344.html Exactly what myself and others predicted is happening. Russia is fermenting tension in the East and then they will invade to "protect there citizens" This is the worst outcome because what will the West do? I hate to say this but would it not just be better to accept that eastern Ukraine is part of Russia after this invasion. Because after Russia annexes certain parts of Ukraine the only thing that would deter them would be Western military intervention....and do we really want that? But then the West needs to put the stake in the ground and any further annexation of other parts of Ukraine by Russia needs to absolutely prevented at all costs. This may sound like the historical appeasement of Hitler but the context is different
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Thanks for the compliment but I'm not trolling, I'm serious about what I say and believe around Romance But are you serious as cancer? In this case yes, cancer is real and my view on Romance is real
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Thanks for the compliment but I'm not trolling, I'm serious about what I say and believe around Romance
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Dismemberment of the Ukrainian state, subjugation to Russia, continued economic deterioration, restoration of Yanukovych oligarchy, you know, the works. that made me laugh but I don't he is that pro-Russian In fact its a much harder question to answer than a person may realize . I am nervous to guess myself because there are consequences for any of the outcomes so I really am interested in what 2133 and any others think should be right solution if you could somehow just enforce it.
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We had our major software vendor discuss new features on one of there products we support. Afterwards they took us for dinner and drinks so it was a good early evening
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Yes it does matter if its not true...obviously ? We are talking about how great or terrible BSN is so its directly relevant as it goes towards the character of people who frequent BSN
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There was an incident where a mob tried to storm a National Guard base, in which 3 pro-Russians were killed. The National Guard is a reserve unit that's been created by the Kiev government, with crap training, and chiefly comprised of volunteers—the idea was originally to incorporate already existing militias into a structure fully under the command of the government, but I don't know to what extent this has been accomplished. So far, when regular army units have been involved, they have either defected, handed over their hardware, or just plain turned around: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_Xcs-Mjkk (doesn't help that the poor tank sounds like it's dying) Tell me something 2133 what in your opinion is the most effective way to resolve the Ukrainian crisis? What needs to happen to restore peace?
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Okay please provide the links directly from BSN and I'll believe it
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Sorry Sarex but I reject this type of comment as nothing but Bioware bashing propaganda. The thought that you are suggesting that there are people on BSN who think incest could be considered normal or realistic is ludicrous. If people did say this they were trolling or joking but this does not reflect what people on BSN think is a normal Romance option in any respect. This is just taking the whole " BSN people are weird " too far and I have to dispute this insinuation While I don't think everyone in those threads were serious about it, I think some were very, very serious about it. As mentioned, its why I quit Bio's boards (not that anyone cared, I was by that point mainly a lurker). To be honest I respect your opinion on most matters so maybe it is true? But what makes you think people were seriously suggesting incest should be included and why do think anyone would consider incest to be realistic when we know its illegal in every country in the world and births through incest are susceptible to genetic deformities ...so its not realistic in any respects...so why would anyone argue it is when there is no precedent to compare it to?
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Sorry Sarex but I reject this type of comment as nothing but Bioware bashing propaganda. The thought that you are suggesting that there are people on BSN who think incest could be considered normal or realistic is ludicrous. If people did say this they were trolling or joking but this does not reflect what people on BSN think is a normal Romance option in any respect. This is just taking the whole " BSN people are weird " too far and I have to dispute this insinuation
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And then there's the third annoying group of people, the ones who constantly whine about them, thus making the romances the universally most discussed and polarizing aspect of the games, way out of proportion with what their actual role ine the games is. You are a clever man, very insightful
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You also got some loot and XP out of the romance-triggered encounters. The Yochlol ambush was pretty cool. Wasn't there something with Harpers too? Funny how actual consequences and integration have gone down, while ego stroking and fan service have gone through the roof. I seem to remember that Isabela's actions at a critical point in DA2 were also influenced by romance, but I'm not sure if that was necessarily locked to the romance—only played that game once. You also got some loot and XP out of the romance-triggered encounters. The Yochlol ambush was pretty cool. Wasn't there something with Harpers too? Funny how actual consequences and integration have gone down, while ego stroking and fan service have gone through the roof. I seem to remember that Isabela's actions at a critical point in DA2 were also influenced by romance, but I'm not sure if that was necessarily locked to the romance—only played that game once. Hi 2133 Where have you been, you have been conspicuous by your absence
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The fact that people want Romance in RPG is no more obsessive than people who want multi-levelled dungeons, interesting armour, varied questing, realistic monster ecosystems and dozens of other things I could name that define the RPG experience for a person. Remember Monte that we never should presume to tell others what is acceptable content around there RPG experience, its very subjective Everything is subjective. Which is why saying it's subjective is, essentially pointless. I find Bioware's status as romance-purveyors of choice in their games unacceptable. There, I said it. I also strongly believe many of the wiser heads at that studio know full well the cul-de-sac that decision has trapped them in. Bioware has been hoisted on its own petard, imagine if one of their designers wanted to make a totally romance-free product? They couldn't. They are trapped. Bwahahahahahah. You say you think Bioware made a bad strategic decision by implementing Romance and they possibly regret it. Maybe so, we will never know. And I agree if they tried to remove Romance options from there games this would be a very unpopular decision and lead to an unprecedented furore. But I do know this. Bioware has millions of committed fans and tens of thousands of fans who support and enjoy Romance. These fans support the various RPG franchises that Bioware produces financially and Bioware generates large amounts of revenue through these fans of Romance. So the reality is I'm sure Bioware sleeps fine at night, I know I would
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Let's All Watch A Fedora Man Destroy Himself Online
BruceVC replied to Bryy's topic in Way Off-Topic
The rest is at the link. It gets.... super intense. From http://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-steven/2014/04/dear-girls-who-are-finally-ready-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/ It's apparently real, just like that guy that is engaged to Twilight Sparkle and thus wants people to stop drawing MLP porn. That's an interesting link and post. For me the guy spends far too much time telling that women how fantastic he is now and how she missed out on a great opportunity. He claims he is normal and settled but I would argue hubris is his problem, he seems to revel in belittling her and makes some seriously personal attacks. Its obvious he has been carrying some baggage about his past treatment by her and hasn't moved on or is prepared to forget the past. So she should consider herself fortunate he rejected her He's not talking about a specific woman, though, as much as a sort of archetype of woman. It's sort of a rant about how he thinks in general there's a type of woman who wants to date bad guys when she's in her twenties, only to later switch to a nice guy to raise a family with when she's older - because while bad guys are fun, nice guys provide stability. But yeah, he sounds very bitter. I don't think he is such a nice guy as he thinks he is. Honesty I find his whole rant steeped in misogyny and vitriol. He does seem very materialistic and thinks that having the money to buy a new car automatically makes him a better candidate for women to date. I think its sad and I think he is embarrassing himself. Yes there are women who like " bad guys", but so what? There are also men who are drawn to younger women only for the perceived sexual gratification and how it makes them feel. These are all factors that show an insecurity. I say if someone wants to date a "bad guy" then move on and find the right women who will appreciate you for what you have to offer. But personally I don't compromise on my principles and I've met women who wouldn't date me because I didn't fit a certain image and that's fine. I have no issue at all with that , but it didn't make me bitter -
The fact that people want Romance in RPG is no more obsessive than people who want multi-levelled dungeons, interesting armour, varied questing, realistic monster ecosystems and dozens of other things I could name that define the RPG experience for a person. Remember Monte that we never should presume to tell others what is acceptable content around there RPG experience, its very subjective
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This is an important point. I am not advocating for detailed Romance cut scenes and I never have, I have access to adult websites if I wanted to watch videos. I am obviously not explaining my point properly. Romance in BG2 was done fine IMO. The Romance arc in any RPG is really done in your head and in your imagination. This same logic applies to every other aspect in this type of game, that's why its called a Role Playing Game. You mentally identify with your character and his journey, you don't have to see every part of the story to make it significant But you have to at least have the option for Romance to begin this identification
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Monte you can't be seriously suggesting that because I think Romance is an important of an RPG experience that I am sexually frustrated....please tell me I am misunderstanding you?
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The upside or downside of Romance is actually inconsequential, this is about the overall RPG experience that is offered to your character during the quest. For me the discussion is more about why people think that certain components of an RPG need to be part of the game like multiple spells, immersive lore, loads of dungeons to explore, non-Romance interaction with party members but the idea or concept of Romance is considered childish and anathema. Its a contradiction to what we say when we ask for " a realistic and immersive RPG experience". Yes work can be done on the implementation of Romance but Romance is still relevant
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Wowzers, someone is taking this very seriously. I just used sex as an example of what would be the realistic outcome to a party of people going on a epic journey where they have to save the world. The point being it would be unrealistic to suggest relationships wouldn't develop under the circumstances and yes I'm sorry to say this but sex would more than likely occur.
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Let's All Watch A Fedora Man Destroy Himself Online
BruceVC replied to Bryy's topic in Way Off-Topic
The rest is at the link. It gets.... super intense. From http://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-steven/2014/04/dear-girls-who-are-finally-ready-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/ It's apparently real, just like that guy that is engaged to Twilight Sparkle and thus wants people to stop drawing MLP porn. That's an interesting link and post. For me the guy spends far too much time telling that women how fantastic he is now and how she missed out on a great opportunity. He claims he is normal and settled but I would argue hubris is his problem, he seems to revel in belittling her and makes some seriously personal attacks. Its obvious he has been carrying some baggage about his past treatment by her and hasn't moved on or is prepared to forget the past. So she should consider herself fortunate he rejected her
