BruceVC

Its an interesting point you make, in the past I would have disputed that But I have seen evidence of this in South Africa...its complicated but its not all good, you right

How is any sane person not a Capitalist under that broad definition? They weren't blessed with ownership of production or distribution. Thats just an excuse to not work hard and achieve something meaningful....yes KP no one is going to give you wealth or success , you will have to do it yourself I'm glad to know that working 40 hours a week while taking care of my sick mother and going to university isn't working hard. Okay, I apologize. I didn't mean it like that, besides I am very confident you will become very successful if thats what you want But yes I do understand your RL commitments and I respect what you are doing, I was not working as hard as you at your age and I do realize you are very busy

Something interesting occurred a while ago and it made me think about something I wanted to ask Ros was having a debate with Monte about the UK system of government and as usual Ros was making a very interesting and compelling point and Monte got annoyed and basically said " I don't need advice about my country from someone who lives in Sweden " , it was a complete overreaction but it made me realize how most of us don't like foreigners giving us advice about our country or highlighting issues Yet it seems on a daily basis most of us give advice or criticize or scrutinize the USA and its policies and culture...and yet you guys never seem to get annoyed? Why is that? Are you use to it...do you ignore it..I'm interested in how our American members feel about non-Americas often discussing the USA

How is any sane person not a Capitalist under that broad definition? They weren't blessed with ownership of production or distribution. Thats just an excuse to not work hard and achieve something meaningful....yes KP no one is going to give you wealth or success , you will have to do it yourself

Well thats one thing I have noticed, some people that were discriminated against during Apartheid have no issue demonstrating bigotry ...it can be a little annoying

You cant possibly believe that, it works for almost all countries who understand the principles of the private sector managing the growth of the economy and the free markets Yes there are some failures but I have come to accept that and not let that detract from the overall value that it adds

How is any sane person not a Capitalist under that broad definition? Yeah why not embrace an economic system that despite its flaws does work

Fixed it for you. If we're defining capitalism as "an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth." how is Hillary not a Capitalist? They are all Capitalists, they just have different views on the type of Capitalism Sanders is probably the furthest?

Nah, there is nothing weird about that. He is one of the most respected Political commentators in mainstream US media What's even more funny is that i never said that it was weird, rather that it was funny. Kinda weird that you read my post wrongly. Oh okay.....well next time don't be so confusing

The way I would phrase it, is he's one of the less terrible ones. You guys and your cynicism...who do you like as a political commentator?

Yeah, I support it on principle but it hasn't really worked ideally in South Africa

Yes but thats work quotas ....this is about intelligence ratings. Maybe its just me ...in the USA do some minority groups have different and easier criteria to enter higher education?

Guys does this seem normal In South Africa black university applicants have to get less on there entry exams to be accepted to University than white applicants 21 years after Apartheid ended I wouldn't think this should apply as to me this is like saying " white people are clever than black people " It seems strange to have lower University entry criteria for black South Africans and patronizing ?

Nah, there is nothing weird about that. He is one of the most respected Political commentators in mainstream US media

Well CNN International is very objective, they feature the Republicans and Trump quite regularly CNN is objective? I laughed so hard I spit up my coffee! They are not as bad as MSNBC (they make no pretense of objectivity) but I'd hardly call them objective. You know what news source it completely politically neutral in the US? None of them. That's correct. Not a f-----g one of them. All of them tilt to one political philosophy or another either subtly of overtly. But I wouldn't worry about it overmuch. That isn't new. It's been that way since before the last civil war. You sure you weren't watching the local USA CNN....thats very different to CNN International ?

Well CNN International is very objective, they feature the Republicans and Trump quite regularly

Okay, and why would you say that Clinton supporters are undeserving of any credit

Jesus, dude. Put a lid on it. I don't think she'll let me. Seriously though, at this point the media doesn't even care about her qualifications they just want it because it would mean the first female president. So Hillary gets to hog all the limelight, her mistakes forgotten and hidden while nobody even knows who the other candidates are. Orog you can't seriously think that all support for Clinton is just because she is a women ? Please give her supporters more credit than that

The whole Clinton email Benghazi investigation has a serious criticism in that an insider who was part of the investigation believes it has become more about trying to undermine Clinton than a proper assessment to understand what really happened ....this makes sense to me and I feel this whole incident and trying to blame Clinton is misplaced http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/10/politics/benghazi-committee-investigation-political-hillary-clinton-brad-podliska-lawsuit/index.html?eref=rss_politics

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/11/politics/cnn-democratic-debate-podium-order/index.html Its a few hours away and I'm looking forward to it, I expect it to be much more of civil debate than the Republican one...there should be less vitriol towards the candidates and less personal attacks., but we will see. I am looking forward to the Clinton\Sanders exchanges and I'm still firmly a Clinton supporter

Plus it would suck to return to Cuba only to be sent to the Isla de Pina or get a bullet in the head because your parents had the audacity to leave "paradise". Yes Bruce, they do things like that. Really? I wasn't aware of that, so you are saying for Cubans to return there lives would be threatened....if that is so then yes there is NO reason to return to Cuba

South Africa is playing Wales next, we are very confidant and our team is back on form so bring it on

Because I'm afraid I might get deported back to Cuba. Why wouldn't you want to be returned to the socialist paradise of Cuba? Yeah Orog that wouldn't be so bad...you know how hot those Cuban dancers are and I imagine the local Cubans would see you as a celebrity for living in the USA

Well good work on accepting that Blatter is corrupt, I would have been very surprised if you had still defended him And he did bring football to to all those places and he deserves credit but his achievement makes this whole thing more difficult The reality in South Africa was the majority of Black South Africans immediately believed him ...they had been manipulated into believing that " how could this avuncular man who bought the WC to the African continent run such a corrupt organisation ".... I dont like to see Black Africans being manipulated, unless its for there own good which is rare but necessary at times

But you can understand how being penalized for having more than one child would make people more likely to do what the Chinese are doing.,.....this is very expensive so it would be rare so its not like there would be millions doing this Take your money and modernistic broohaa and stuff it. Using children as a ticket for materialist oppurtunity is objectively abhorrent and warrants the wrath of gods. I haven't had coffee yet this morning, so excuse the language. No worries your response seemed normal for such an emotional topic. I prefer honest feedback on this whole refugee topic, we don't need you to think you have to be PC. For me I really want to know what your average European is thinking...and there have been some very interesting points made. At times frustration can come across as Islamaphobia which I think is unfair as you should be able to say things like " we don't want millions of Syrians coming to Europe " without feeling guilty Now I have read comments from 2133 about everyone playing your part as a good European member and how there is no real link between stories of Islam overtaking Europe and he does make some points I agree with But both of you seem to miss my original point, everyone ends up debating topics whether Europe culture can take in these millions of Syrians, can we ignore such human tragedy and how they may be extremists and now there are questions about security but end of the day the real debate should have been "Why are Gulf States like Qatar and Saudi not taking any refugees? The EU gets " divided" and majors in Hungary throw away EU flags and think the " EU is not what they expected. But this exactly what the EU stands for...all members are part of the good and bad times. But my original point would have been simple " the Trains can arrive in EU but they simply get turned away until the Gulf States take there share of responsibility" It is utterly incomprehensible that there are millions of people leaving the ME to relocate to the EU and they not being located in fellow Muslim countries....I'm sorry but that is just not right. And everyone just accepts it and assumes its now a EU problem