BruceVC

Guys I feel I need to add something. Some people feel I am obsessed with Clinton and I'm trying to get everyone to agree she is the best candidate. That has never been my intention and if I seem to have been coming across as pushy then I apologize. I also don't like Clinton just because she is a women, that is not enough just to classify as the best candidate. For me there have been several important changes that have occurred in the USA under Obama...the main ones being the fact the Federal government has the right to intervene in the states in certain political and social events like the Gay Marriage Bill. Clinton is going to continue implementing Obama's policies and she does have experience in American politics as she was a NY senator and Secretary of State. I see her continuing Obama's policies as a good thing, the general objective being focusing on the middle class and ensuring a more equatable society for all of the USA Its hard for me to look at the USA and think how terrible things are....you guys have a very low unemployment rate and the strongest economy in the world so for me the USA under Obama is doing very well and I would naturally expect most people to want this to continue. But I also understand many of you have valid concerns with Clinton and the Democrats and even if I may not agree or understand this criticism I respect your views and I am genuinely interested in your issues with the Democrats which many people have explained Anyway my objective was not to annoy people about this topic so once again I apologize if I did create that impression

So GD realistically there is one question ....the next president of the USA....Trump or Clinton if you could chose ? I know you said Trump in the past but after all his antics lately do you feel the same way?

I am thoroughly enjoying my Xmas break, I spent the weekend partying with friends and the last few days I have been chilling at our beach cottage. The weather has been temperamental, its been raining on and off but today is perfect. Sunny with a cool breeze so its perfect to spend the time in the sea engaging in any water related activity Yesterday we went for a 10 km walk on the beach, at the end of the walk we came across an unusual site. There was this insane man completely naked who was on the beach who was performing some strange ritual, he may have been communicating with his ancestors which in African culture ancestors is like a religious belief ...he was talking to himself, waving his arms and basically walking over the same spot again and again. It was quite surreal and he completely ignored us. Also this part of the beach is isolated, there was no one around for maybe 4 km in either way...made me wonder what life he has had to lead to this moment

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/23/sports/soccer/fifa-conmebol-corruption-argentina-federation-vote.html?_r=0 I was watching the Blatter interview and he uses the words" there is stink" around FIFA But in his mind he is still the victim of a political conspiracy ...and he thinks its unfair he has been banned for 8 years from attending any game So he doesn't seem to have any compunction around his role in the rampant corruption at FIFA

Volo it is considered presumptuous to make assumptions about what other people know...how do you know NOBODY does...maybe, just maybe I do

I still haven't seen it yet so I plan to see in the theater

I dont ever put one up in my place and there are no decorations but I'm leaving for the coast tomorrow morning at 4 am and at the family beach cottage there will be a Xmas tree

Meshugger you dont care what people think of you ...be honest. Part of the reason you wouldn't vote for Clinton is that she is a women?

Hi Fighter Where have you been?

No my friend Germany has become the vogue immigration for people fleeing the USA..try something different Come to South Africa, you can stay with me for free...then you can experience life as one of the privildge white minority

I'll admit, as someone who's fiscally conservative but still supports equality and environmental protection, it's nearly impossible to find a candidate I agree with 100%. When there was that quiz to determine who you supported a couple months back, I ended up being closest to Sanders, but I hate his economic policies.It leaves me every election struggling to find who to vote for, and I usually end up only voting if there's someone I'm very opposed to running...but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Well you will never find a candidate who suits you 100 % so might as well vote Clinton as then at least its a Democrat vote Considering that I swore the first time she ran that if Hillary was elected I was going to leave the country, that seems unlikely. I hear you....lets not be hasty and want to leave the country I am excited for your election, I will staying up all night as usual to watch

I'll admit, as someone who's fiscally conservative but still supports equality and environmental protection, it's nearly impossible to find a candidate I agree with 100%. When there was that quiz to determine who you supported a couple months back, I ended up being closest to Sanders, but I hate his economic policies. It leaves me every election struggling to find who to vote for, and I usually end up only voting if there's someone I'm very opposed to running...but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Well you will never find a candidate who suits you 100 % so might as well vote Clinton as then at least its a Democrat vote Then perhaps you should begin treating all of us like adults. Unfortunately, I've done this little song and dance with you just a few too many times now, and I've just sort of lost my stomach for it at this point. I was treating you like a adult? Now it seems like you are offended....its like I can't win and whatever I say you seem to want to leave?

Okay if you say I am wrong then I suppose I should believe you... ...its just ...its just I am not convinced But having a low intelligence really should bother you at all, firstly its subjective and secondly I live in a country where many people are deemed to have a " low intelligence" , its not a factor that really matters ..yes of course in the job space but then you just something suitable Personally I want to drop all this " he is stupid " ...." he isn't intelligent " ...its ultimately more offensive than constructive

No, but thanks for the condescension in assuming that we cannot possibly think/act in good faith towards a candidate just because she's a woman. Now, in regards to acting in good faith towards a guy around here going by the name of BruceVC who never acts in good faith towards any of us...I'll admit that that one's a little more tricky. Barti you seem very defensive....did I catch you out? Its okay if you don't want to vote for a women..no judgement today....you get no SJ condemnation the whole day

Okay, but its not unusual for those factors you mention to influence many people so its not a ridiculous question What is the main reason you wont vote for her...you dont trust her ?

I have to be honest I don't really understand this American aversion to being spied on ,....its not like you will be targeted. I install eDiscovery all the time, this is form a spying ...various financial corporations use it all the time and no one even knows So you need to trust the government a little and learn to accept the NSA knows more than you about security. You know Glenn Greenwald is considered by many in the USA as a traitor and is aligned to Snowden And yes those are possibly concerning examples but do they really bother you...I mean spying on Amnesty International? Who cares when the safety of the USA is concerned ?

That hasn't worked out so well in the past. Unless what you mean is more along these lines. No offense 2133 but the example of Greek austerity is really a bad one Of course Greece needs to repay the EU Troika.....you have these strange views that these types of debts can just be written off...you know how much th this was

GD I know you take politics seriously but lets be realistic ....Clinton will win Don't you think you should start to get use to respect her ...I mean if she is president. I assume you guys respect the office? I would be also frustrated by Trump...but he is more a symptom of the Republicans failure to install real confidence. Lets not blame the Democrats for having a logical structure and appeal. I have said this before but the Republicans have almost lost there identity And yes they need to stop offending minorities and coming across so conservative....it can't be that hard ? I've made my opinion of Hillary Clinton abundantly clear. And I fail to see how the republicans being "conservative" should offend minorities. Truth to tell I fail to see any conservative republicans at all. The "republican" house and "republican" senate just passed a big government disaster of a budget that gives the President everything he's ever dreamed of and more. They fully funded every bad idea he's had for two years. If both political parties are bound and determined to spend the United States into insolvency one just faster than the other, then the outcomes of elections are meaningless. If you want my $.02 it's past time we took a hard look at secession. All I can do is protect my financial assets, minimize my tax exposure and make the land I own as productive as possible so if needs be I can provide for myself. And ensure I al well armed and well prepared should the worse come to worst. Of course you must realize I sympathize with you and others and do always read what you say. I am a white, male and I do believe we need to concerned of real threats which come surreptitiously through various mediums....so yes there are agendas against us. I accept that but Clinton isn't one of the, And you know you can overreact or maybe its better to say you sometimes need to clear your mind..like the last time you bought all that gold and went to that game park with the dogs But if I can try to be constructive, the Republicans have got to start asking another series of question " what do we stand for? What intrinsically do we offer? What will we not accept in our name " You cannot let a guy like Trump run rampant...I know its easy for me to make suggestions from South Africa but I refuse to believe with all this intelligence and experience Trump is the only divisive candidate And also GD this whole " conservative" values needs to be re-looked at if the result is a candidate who just offends people. This is not an attack on your religion or our race, why do you feel you need to follow someone who is religious? I watched the whole Republican debate, as in the whole thing. There are good candidates like Rubio and Bush. But the thought of Tennessee seceding....you can't mean that. Imagine not being able to sing the US anthem Who are the Republicans? That really is the question. Every election they present themselves as the party of limited government and fiscal responsibility. Then once they get elected they act like anything but. I've said this a number of times but the only thing I hate more than the Republicans are the Democrats. But I will hand it to the Dems on one thing. They are honest about their intentions. They do not value freedom, or individual liberty, or private property, or Federalism and they do not pretend that their aim is anything other than to take all these things away in the name of a "fair" and "just" society where they control everything and everyone. But GD when you say the Democrats don't value freedom or individual liberty what exactly do you mean? Do you mean Internet surveillance I'm guessing here but I will say that its a case of same **** different package. When to comes down to American politics corporate interest are at the top, bipartisan issues and party politics take the second and thirdly are the issues that actually concern Americans which become a stage for parties and representatives to flex their muscles and brag, which means they don't get resolved. Guys can I ask you all a question, it seems none of you are prepared to vote Clinton....I won't lie, I'm disappointed But are you sure its not some misplaced view around the fact she is a women? It may be a subconscious view that you arent necessarily aware of..and this is not meant as an insult many people in my country say they aren't ready to vote for a women? It just may be best to acknowledge it...get it out there ?

Correct. The extreme lefties vote for Sanders, the rest of the party of big government and no freedom votes for Clinton and the republican nominee winsRepublicans aren't voting for Clinton.

GD I know you take politics seriously but lets be realistic ....Clinton will win Don't you think you should start to get use to respect her ...I mean if she is president. I assume you guys respect the office? I would be also frustrated by Trump...but he is more a symptom of the Republicans failure to install real confidence. Lets not blame the Democrats for having a logical structure and appeal. I have said this before but the Republicans have almost lost there identity And yes they need to stop offending minorities and coming across so conservative....it can't be that hard ? I've made my opinion of Hillary Clinton abundantly clear. And I fail to see how the republicans being "conservative" should offend minorities. Truth to tell I fail to see any conservative republicans at all. The "republican" house and "republican" senate just passed a big government disaster of a budget that gives the President everything he's ever dreamed of and more. They fully funded every bad idea he's had for two years. If both political parties are bound and determined to spend the United States into insolvency one just faster than the other, then the outcomes of elections are meaningless. If you want my $.02 it's past time we took a hard look at secession. All I can do is protect my financial assets, minimize my tax exposure and make the land I own as productive as possible so if needs be I can provide for myself. And ensure I al well armed and well prepared should the worse come to worst. Of course you must realize I sympathize with you and others and do always read what you say. I am a white, male and I do believe we need to concerned of real threats which come surreptitiously through various mediums....so yes there are agendas against us. I accept that but Clinton isn't one of the, And you know you can overreact or maybe its better to say you sometimes need to clear your mind..like the last time you bought all that gold and went to that game park with the dogs But if I can try to be constructive, the Republicans have got to start asking another series of question " what do we stand for? What intrinsically do we offer? What will we not accept in our name " You cannot let a guy like Trump run rampant...I know its easy for me to make suggestions from South Africa but I refuse to believe with all this intelligence and experience Trump is the only divisive candidate And also GD this whole " conservative" values needs to be re-looked at if the result is a candidate who just offends people. This is not an attack on your religion or our race, why do you feel you need to follow someone who is religious? I watched the whole Republican debate, as in the whole thing. There are good candidates like Rubio and Bush. But the thought of Tennessee seceding....you can't mean that. Imagine not being able to sing the US anthem Who are the Republicans? That really is the question. Every election they present themselves as the party of limited government and fiscal responsibility. Then once they get elected they act like anything but. I've said this a number of times but the only thing I hate more than the Republicans are the Democrats. But I will hand it to the Dems on one thing. They are honest about their intentions. They do not value freedom, or individual liberty, or private property, or Federalism and they do not pretend that their aim is anything other than to take all these things away in the name of a "fair" and "just" society where they control everything and everyone. But GD when you say the Democrats don't value freedom or individual liberty what exactly do you mean? Do you mean Internet surveillance

Man do you vote Democrats ...or are you one of those white supremacist dudes who just rejects the idea of a vote

Yes I agree with SJ influence to allow things to appeal to a broader audience....Volo you now have Syrians in your county so there entertainment needs should be considered? Have you ever watched Islamic TV...we have it in South Africa and I get it on my cable selection. It must be the most boring and brain numbing channel I have ever been forced to watch...sorry to sound critical but its really bad. I remember the one show was just about this guy in a white room and all he did was pray and recite this song....thats it ...for 1 hour I assumed it cant be popular, I thought our SA Muslims can't seriously enjoy it ....but they do

Yes my friend.....stats don't lie....this is scientific but maybe not so many .....give or take a few But they are spread all over the world I hear they sending 40 k to San Diego because you guys are so friendly and welcoming

GD I know you take politics seriously but lets be realistic ....Clinton will win Don't you think you should start to get use to respect her ...I mean if she is president. I assume you guys respect the office? I would be also frustrated by Trump...but he is more a symptom of the Republicans failure to install real confidence. Lets not blame the Democrats for having a logical structure and appeal. I have said this before but the Republicans have almost lost there identity And yes they need to stop offending minorities and coming across so conservative....it can't be that hard ? I've made my opinion of Hillary Clinton abundantly clear. And I fail to see how the republicans being "conservative" should offend minorities. Truth to tell I fail to see any conservative republicans at all. The "republican" house and "republican" senate just passed a big government disaster of a budget that gives the President everything he's ever dreamed of and more. They fully funded every bad idea he's had for two years. If both political parties are bound and determined to spend the United States into insolvency one just faster than the other, then the outcomes of elections are meaningless. If you want my $.02 it's past time we took a hard look at secession. All I can do is protect my financial assets, minimize my tax exposure and make the land I own as productive as possible so if needs be I can provide for myself. And ensure I al well armed and well prepared should the worse come to worst. Of course you must realize I sympathize with you and others and do always read what you say. I am a white, male and I do believe we need to concerned of real threats which come surreptitiously through various mediums....so yes there are agendas against us. I accept that but Clinton isn't one of the, And you know you can overreact or maybe its better to say you sometimes need to clear your mind..like the last time you bought all that gold and went to that game park with the dogs But if I can try to be constructive, the Republicans have got to start asking another series of question " what do we stand for? What intrinsically do we offer? What will we not accept in our name " You cannot let a guy like Trump run rampant...I know its easy for me to make suggestions from South Africa but I refuse to believe with all this intelligence and experience Trump is the only divisive candidate And also GD this whole " conservative" values needs to be re-looked at if the result is a candidate who just offends people. This is not an attack on your religion or our race, why do you feel you need to follow someone who is religious? I watched the whole Republican debate, as in the whole thing. There are good candidates like Rubio and Bush. But the thought of Tennessee seceding....you can't mean that. Imagine not being able to sing the US anthem

Those are the stats now ? Ask Volo its all over Canada....there information is generally accurate But Hurlshot thats only 10 %? Why is that such a concern