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Yeah, only a poorly thought-out post that you composed in less than five minutes cannot really compare to a mural and even in this day and age would not be considered art by anyone. Feel free to go draw up a rape scene involving refugees on the side of the town hall, though. And hey: if you care so much about the victims of such rapes, why aren't you devoting every single free second of your time to help rape victims? There are volunteer organizations for this as well as career choices you can make to help people, you know. (see what I did there?) But it isn't about people at all, but rather your own issues, yes? Maybe get help? It's clear that venting is just not doing the trick. Good luck. I appriciate your concern, but i am already a member of such organisation that actively help people and donate my own money monthly. These "artists" piss me off like no other since they are the most vocal while doing the least. Previously, at least they managed to raise a debate with some insight, but now they are just dumb. I dont know Meshugger but 2133 makes a good point here. Can I give you some advice that I learnt about living in South Africa. its much better to just say " I dont want thousands of Syrian Muslims immigrating to Finland because we have such different cultures " ...you don't even need to justify it because there is no country in the world that would be fine with it under the circumstances unless you prepare to accept them like Germany or like Sweden you really believe in the social aspect But what you are doing, or rather what it probably seems for others, is finding actually irrelevant or contradictory reasons that come across as you being racist ot bigoted. Now you shouldn't have to feel like that but if you take what 2133 is saying he is right yet I know thats not what you are really saying Its funny but living in the West sometimes we feel because of our past we can''t ever say " no I would prefer only limited migrants " as that would seem racist. It's just because you're close-minded. One can have altruism for others, while still wishing the best of your own people. It is possible But you must realize thats not how you coming across ...hence the reason people like alum and 2133 challenge you on some things So? Even if it gets heated, it is a debate afterall. Ideas exchanged, etc, etc. It would be quite worse if we all just got along, yuck! No you misunderstand me, of course debate is good I'm saying people are getting the wrong idea about you and why you say certain things ...thats not the same thing as a good debate

No its not strange, its exactly as I called it I wish I could say its because I am so insightful but the reality is sometimes stranger than fiction. I am more excited to see if I'm right about the overall election result as that would confirm my view around how the American minority groups influence overall results....now then I would share some pertinent information about appealing to these groups

Yeah, only a poorly thought-out post that you composed in less than five minutes cannot really compare to a mural and even in this day and age would not be considered art by anyone. Feel free to go draw up a rape scene involving refugees on the side of the town hall, though. And hey: if you care so much about the victims of such rapes, why aren't you devoting every single free second of your time to help rape victims? There are volunteer organizations for this as well as career choices you can make to help people, you know. (see what I did there?) But it isn't about people at all, but rather your own issues, yes? Maybe get help? It's clear that venting is just not doing the trick. Good luck. I appriciate your concern, but i am already a member of such organisation that actively help people and donate my own money monthly. These "artists" piss me off like no other since they are the most vocal while doing the least. Previously, at least they managed to raise a debate with some insight, but now they are just dumb. I dont know Meshugger but 2133 makes a good point here. Can I give you some advice that I learnt about living in South Africa. its much better to just say " I dont want thousands of Syrian Muslims immigrating to Finland because we have such different cultures " ...you don't even need to justify it because there is no country in the world that would be fine with it under the circumstances unless you prepare to accept them like Germany or like Sweden you really believe in the social aspect But what you are doing, or rather what it probably seems for others, is finding actually irrelevant or contradictory reasons that come across as you being racist ot bigoted. Now you shouldn't have to feel like that but if you take what 2133 is saying he is right yet I know thats not what you are really saying Its funny but living in the West sometimes we feel because of our past we can''t ever say " no I would prefer only limited migrants " as that would seem racist. It's just because you're close-minded. One can have altruism for others, while still wishing the best of your own people. It is possible But you must realize thats not how you coming across ...hence the reason people like alum and 2133 challenge you on some things

Uh-huh. Not good enough, sorry. If you aren't helping out all day everyday, you have no right to raise a point. It's not that I believe this, of course, but that's pretty much the logic you are using with the tired "he likes immigrants, he can take them all in his house instead of speaking up" nonsense. Also, I have serious doubts that you actually know anything about the author(s) considering that you can barely spell the name right. Feel free to prove me wrong. They are dumb, but you aren't exactly raising the level of the debate, yourself. 2133 I wish you would engage with me, I enjoy our debates and what is frustrating is people like you and Zora refuse to debate with me because you think I'm a troll. For me I'm fascinated by what motivates you and yes I will always be honest with you which I think you think is trolling but surly after all this time you can't still think I'm a troll? I'll be honest I like debating with clever people and I know you are bright but you just have a few misconceptions about things like the EU...so its not like we differ on everything and I appreciate your support of SJ issues

Yeah, only a poorly thought-out post that you composed in less than five minutes cannot really compare to a mural and even in this day and age would not be considered art by anyone. Feel free to go draw up a rape scene involving refugees on the side of the town hall, though. And hey: if you care so much about the victims of such rapes, why aren't you devoting every single free second of your time to help rape victims? There are volunteer organizations for this as well as career choices you can make to help people, you know. (see what I did there?) But it isn't about people at all, but rather your own issues, yes? Maybe get help? It's clear that venting is just not doing the trick. Good luck. I appriciate your concern, but i am already a member of such organisation that actively help people and donate my own money monthly. These "artists" piss me off like no other since they are the most vocal while doing the least. Previously, at least they managed to raise a debate with some insight, but now they are just dumb. I dont know Meshugger but 2133 makes a good point here. Can I give you some advice that I learnt about living in South Africa. its much better to just say " I dont want thousands of Syrian Muslims immigrating to Finland because we have such different cultures " ...you don't even need to justify it because there is no country in the world that would be fine with it under the circumstances unless you prepare to accept them like Germany or like Sweden you really believe in the social aspect But what you are doing, or rather what it probably seems for others, is finding actually irrelevant or contradictory reasons that come across as you being racist ot bigoted. Now you shouldn't have to feel like that but if you take what 2133 is saying he is right yet I know thats not what you are really saying Its funny but living in the West sometimes we feel because of our past we can''t ever say " no I would prefer only limited migrants " as that would seem racist.

For my part, the only reason to put up an x-mas tree at all is to have an actual goddamn pine tree in the house for awhile. It's nice to have lights in it (which enhance the experience of lying beneath the branches on one's back and looking upwards), but I could do without all the other decorations. I go buy one every year from the parking lot of the paramedic station around the block. They sell at a ridiculous markup, but I think of it as a donation to a neighborhood nonprofit, and I enjoy the experience of strolling in to buy one and surprising them by carrying it home by hand. haven't had a christmas tree these past few years, which on one level is ironic given that we own a christmas tree farm. the "farm" is on less than five acres, and it is in idaho, so is a bit o' a drive for us to bring home one o' our trees. +80 year old woman works the place for us with minimal help from her kids and grandkids. is one o' the properties we is seriously considering retiring to. mary, our caretaker, is gonna get the house as well as 3 acres whenever she tells us she wants to retire... or when Gromnir retires. haven't told her yet. maybe next christmas? in any event, is a good chance that we will be having a christmas tree farm in our backyard in a couple years. am inexplicably amused by the thought. HA! Good Fun! Holy Smoke Gromnir.....you allow a women that old to work?That would be illegal and criticized in South African but we can sometimes be a little overly concerned with SJ sjw would be beating down our door if we kicked her outta her "home" 'cause she is too old. we bought the land from her some years ago when she were desperate to sell, but she didn't wanna go live with her kids and grandkids. we handed her a big pile o' money and she got to stay in her home. for all intents and purposes, she lives there rent free and makes a bit o' money on the side selling christmas trees and some produce. her family thinks Gromnir is some kinda bonafide saint, which we find a it unsettling. *shrug* HA! Good Fun! Yeah I knew the story was something like that, its weird but in South Africa if a white person was involved in that type of agreed work contract and a black women was 80 it would still be seen as " abuse " or " a case of white people being unconcerned " ...even if she wanted to work. So we just leave it because its easier to agree and not push a point

For my part, the only reason to put up an x-mas tree at all is to have an actual goddamn pine tree in the house for awhile. It's nice to have lights in it (which enhance the experience of lying beneath the branches on one's back and looking upwards), but I could do without all the other decorations. I go buy one every year from the parking lot of the paramedic station around the block. They sell at a ridiculous markup, but I think of it as a donation to a neighborhood nonprofit, and I enjoy the experience of strolling in to buy one and surprising them by carrying it home by hand. haven't had a christmas tree these past few years, which on one level is ironic given that we own a christmas tree farm. the "farm" is on less than five acres, and it is in idaho, so is a bit o' a drive for us to bring home one o' our trees. +80 year old woman works the place for us with minimal help from her kids and grandkids. is one o' the properties we is seriously considering retiring to. mary, our caretaker, is gonna get the house as well as 3 acres whenever she tells us she wants to retire... or when Gromnir retires. haven't told her yet. maybe next christmas? in any event, is a good chance that we will be having a christmas tree farm in our backyard in a couple years. am inexplicably amused by the thought. HA! Good Fun! Holy Smoke Gromnir.....you allow a women that old to work?That would be illegal and criticized in South African but we can sometimes be a little overly concerned with SJ

Well done So what does this new company do and what will you be doing?

It depends what part of it you read and how literally you take it. "Anyone who injures their neighbor is to be injured in the same manner: fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. The one who has inflicted the injury must suffer the same injury. Whoever kills an animal must make restitution, but whoever kills a human being is to be put to death." Leviticus 24:19-21 (NIV) It also has this passage "You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also." Matthew 5:38-39 (NIV) Although it also says "Thou shalt not kill." Exodus 20:13 (King James Version), which for example has changed to "You shall not murder." in New International Version (one of the English translations, which is meant to be a translation in the common language of the American people. also translation where I took eye for eye quotes), which has quite different meaning in our society. So everything that you read in translated or copied versions of bible should be read with grain of salt and ponder what were world views of those that produced, made, translated, write, copied that version of the bible. And of course when you teach you kids you have lots of different translations from which you can choose and decide which follows best your world view. Elerond ..you are a legend, maybe we should get married? We get on well and share many views...thats always a good start to marriage ?

The modern right-wing in a nutshell.Oh you sensitive little pink flower. Did it hurt you? Want me to kiss you or hug? I mean poor little man... Ah, covering up insecurities by calling people names. Digging deep in the playbook with that one. Well he was called a name first....doesn't the bible say " an eye for an eye " ......never forget what you teach your kids

Well yeah, the media landscape is garbage. But the Daily Fail and Rupert Murdoch aren't the edges by any stretch of the imagination, they're just mass market outrage bait and the opposite side of the coin from archetypal 'Nazi SJW Daily News' 'progressive' outrage bait, they could both just as easily be run by Gawker. They're as much part of the problem as the agenda pushing media you disagree with. It's infectiously stupid, lazy and designed to hook people just as much as any drug is. I'm equal opportunity when it comes to media analysis; I hate the spineless, censorious, preachy 'progressive' press and the arbitrary, dishonest, differently preachy 'conservative' press with an equal passion; and both sides obsession with writing what might as well be fairy tale narratives rather than facts. No the international media is fine, if 4-5 independent international networks have basically the same story then it would be strange to think its spurious Also nowadays the scope of a story is not just about some guy sitting in a room reading a piece of paper. There are debates, live interviews and quantifiable data....yes mistakes happen and you have to be very doubtful of channels like RT but end of the day you can get accurate information

You getting some escorts to liven the party up Nonek ? No judgement from my side if you do

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098 Trump thinks Obama is weak against Russia

Look, WWIII has been coming for quite a while. We just need to get over with so that history can continue and we can have WWIV. Also, Hillary said that she would break communications with Russia so she is also a prime candidate for starting a World War. Which; let's be frank, will likely happen when a Muslim extremist bombs Israel and they enact their Samson option. You joking right?.....You exaggerating with this post

The modern right-wing in a nutshell. Oh you sensitive little pink flower. Did it hurt you? Want me to kiss you or hug? I mean poor little man... Oh just ignore him Dark, you know Baro lives in Oz and suffers from " first world privileged blindness " A hard day for them is where the local sheep runs rampant in the " Save The Deadly Creature Protest " and disrupts all the interesting explanation around why the most poisonous creature in the world, an Australian Box Jellyfish, needs special protection from being killed

" Ancient Aliens " that stuff will rot your brains and make you start believing in conspiracy theories

But is it worth watching?

No...we really don't want Trump in the White House ...unless you want to weaken Western influence in the world That's a bold statement to make. Are you implying that any of the other candidates won't? No, the candidates that could potentially do as much damage as Trump to the USA foreign policy won't get through..like Carson So we are realistically talking about Trump, Cruz, Rubio and Bush as the front runners ? And I don't think there has ever been a Republican candidate as bombastic and offensive as Trump....maybe someone knows someone from the past? No, i am genuinely interested here. What should be done to strengthen western influence in the world and how are none of the republican candidates up to it? Sure, I'll explain This is a question of "what in fact would make the USA more prominent around its global influence and this is aligned to the question around how to make the USA safer " So the Republicans believe Obama has made the USA weaker and less respected, I disagree. Most Republican candidates believe the following The Iran deal was a mistake The USA should have supported its " allies " in the ME and attacked Syria at least when Assad used Chemical weapons They think Putin is making a fool of the USA and taking advantage of Obamas apparent reluctance to resort to a military option to resolve certain political events Before I carry on what is your view on the 3 points above ? - The Iran deal is not completely bad, but none of the candidates of either side are actually working to undercut the arab peninsula in favour of Iran and Syria. Neither talks either about putting pressure on Turkey to stop try to outrussian the Russians. - Absolutely not in any way. Syria consists of so many people and religions that only a slow process is, if ever, possible. Assad is the only secular leader that can represent Syria as sovereign at the moment. Those 200 000 could turn into much more if any other faction tries to usurp power. - I bet Putin likes Trump the most, of which pretty much the middle east fears the most. Russia and US best pals? Oooh boy. But those points have little to do what i am wondering about. My point is that neither side has implied any changes in policy that would radically change the western influence for the worse on a global scale, as you suggested. Yes I'll get to the policy difference So now if someone like Trump comes to power he has maintained he will End the Iran deal Attack ISIS directly and also remove Assad from power through a coalition of Arab countries Start to be much more critical about the Russian relationship and also take on the Chinese who are apparently ripping off the USA on numerous financial areas Just these points alone are enough to completely change the global dynamics of the world, new groups of ideological consensus would be formed and things would be very tense...surly you can agree no one wants a world where Russia is aligned with Iran and they both really dislike the West even more ?

No...we really don't want Trump in the White House ...unless you want to weaken Western influence in the world That's a bold statement to make. Are you implying that any of the other candidates won't? No, the candidates that could potentially do as much damage as Trump to the USA foreign policy won't get through..like Carson So we are realistically talking about Trump, Cruz, Rubio and Bush as the front runners ? And I don't think there has ever been a Republican candidate as bombastic and offensive as Trump....maybe someone knows someone from the past? No, i am genuinely interested here. What should be done to strengthen western influence in the world and how are none of the republican candidates up to it? Sure, I'll explain This is a question of "what in fact would make the USA more prominent around its global influence and this is aligned to the question around how to make the USA safer " So the Republicans believe Obama has made the USA weaker and less respected, I disagree. Most Republican candidates believe the following The Iran deal was a mistake The USA should have supported its " allies " in the ME and attacked Syria at least when Assad used Chemical weapons They think Putin is making a fool of the USA and taking advantage of Obamas apparent reluctance to resort to a military option to resolve certain political events Before I carry on what is your view on the 3 points above ?

I like Rubio, he is very intelligent and articulate I am fascinated by the whole Cruz\Rubio tension. And Paul comes across very convincing but I don't think there is much support for his views

No...we really don't want Trump in the White House ...unless you want to weaken Western influence in the world That's a bold statement to make. Are you implying that any of the other candidates won't? No, the candidates that could potentially do as much damage as Trump to the USA foreign policy won't get through..like Carson So we are realistically talking about Trump, Cruz, Rubio and Bush as the front runners ? And I don't think there has ever been a Republican candidate as bombastic and offensive as Trump....maybe someone knows someone from the past?

Did you feel guilty GD....you musnt be a race hater now and hate your race because you feel guilty because Qistina made you realize how your ancestors looted and dominated the world during the Wests rise to ascendancy

You can make a new one, I closed it for length. I hope you won't though. Yeah that whole thread was quite bizarre, it was like people enjoyed the biased and scurrilous comments from Qistina and she almost expected to be insulted .....I am still not convinced she was genuine ?

No...we really don't want Trump in the White House ...unless you want to weaken Western influence in the world

Yes he is way ahead of other candidates but its still early days and right now Trump has support of the Republican conservative base...they like what he is saying but I'm expecting both Cruz and Rubio to start gaining traction