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Macho men doesn't scare anyone. Frightened little boys with guns are scary, because they are unpredictable. At the moment evolution seems to favour brains and intelligence as a recipe for success. 1. Little boys are predictable. Making revenge to school system where they are oppressed and bulled are predictable. Problem not in gun control but in U.S. education system. 2. Do your society favor brains and intelligence as a recipe for success? Maybe Your country ruled by scientists? Look at your politicians. They are typical clerks, they are executive but not smart. Look at your celebrities and elite. They have high social status because moneys, not because brains. Look at western progress in cosmos exploration (as most knowledge-based sector) after USSR dissolving. 20 year past, but no progress in this sphere, even some sort of degradation. Sending rovers to Mars is not progress (USSR sending similar type rovers to moon 43 years past and sending automatic stations to Mars 52 years past, while before dissolving we make preparations for piloted flight to Mars and have starships prototypes with nuclear engines ) . Your society fall into stagnation.

Locks like your ideal are society where mens don't have nuts. Macho mens scare you. It's really abominable for me ( as typical member of our Darwinist society with Natural Selection, cult of power and beauty ). When we are trying become stronger, smarter and evolutionize into powerful being, you trying become weaker and weaken all others. P.S. Gun restriction don't solve problem with mass murders. For example murder can go with chainsaw into school-bus and kill all passengers, because without guns cant be stopped. Or use poison in school cafeteria. Weapons is just a tool and one tool can be changed to another.

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You cant into psychiatry. If Breivik insane he can't be responsible for own crime and must be transferred from prison to asylum. Breivik is typical victim of "Education system", oppressed gamma-male. Some sort of revenge to society. If guns are outlawed then only outlaws would have guns.

Lol, Mr. Breivik is not psychopath. Most of these mass murderers are not psychopaths. Unfair society creates them again and again. Society not solving causes produces this ( oppression, exploitation, social alienation etc). It's easy to labeled everyone who discredits society as "Psychopath". Anyway Connecticut school shootings it's Police/FBI failure. Instead respond for own failure government blames gun owners. http://ic.pics.livej...30_original.jpg And this school are "gun free zone". Suddenly this don't protect children from death.

Don't know about Norway but here they generally don't say 'suicide' or give any details if they can avoid it, saying something like 'no one else is being sought in relation to the incident' or 'there were no suspicious circumstances' instead, though context makes it clear what is meant. Fairly sure it came about after a spate of suicides in one particular town got a lot of attention, and may have been prolonged by the attention. Sometimes i try find information (in English language ) about genetic diseases between Scandinavians ( because their inbreeding traditions) but fail. Same situations with suicides statistics. Meanwhile Russians have informations about this: Scandinavia have 1 place by suicides in Europe, and 1 place by genetic diseases ( especially Mental retardation ). Because this Scandinavian countries funding investigations of this problem ( Russian scientists are participating in this ) and have welcoming Immigration policy, they trying fix this by mixing with another populations ( and because this they have bad reputation in Russia, and Russians don't want to mix with them ) . But in Europe this information are banned.

too much Hoplophobia in this thread.

Newly-elected Miss France 2013, Marine Lorphelin, is 'too white'. http://www.france24.com/en/20121210-row-over-white-snow-miss-france

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Because Oby can't into English. Don't want learn language of exploiters. I find text similar to my own ideas and post. It's not means trolling.

Similarities are oblivious. Nazi are ruled by corporations. NATO are ruled by corporations. Nazi fight against communism. NATO fight against communism. Nazi replace ideology (everyone can become communist, even Aristocrats) with nationality ( commies = Jews. Evil Jews want enslave everyone! ), NATO replace ideology by nationality ( commies = Russians. Evil Russians want enslave everyone! ) Nazi use terror against everyone who oppose them. NATO use terror against everyone who oppose them. Nazi are European supremacists. NATO are "First World" supremacists.

The fascist police-state measures implemented under Operation Condor were actively promoted by the Dulles/Angleton faction of the U.S. intelligence community. Nazi war criminals Rauff and Barbie, who were protected by this apparatus, were key advisors to Operation Condor Under the direction of Shultz, Kissinger, Bush, Sr., Vernon Walters, and Nestor Sanchez, DINA and Operation Condor received training, equipment, and financial and political support. Manuel Contreras was a paid agent, who met with Walters on at least four occasions in the United States. CIA training officers were sent to Santiago to train DINA officers. The communication system employed by Operation Condor was reportedly based in the U.S. military facility in the Panama Canal Zone. The second generation of fascists who functioned as the hired assassins of Operation Condor were in large part assets of this synarchist faction of U.S. military intelligence. This includes the anti-Castro Cuban exiles, most of whom were veterans of the Dulles-orchestrated Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. The CNM merged with Orlando Bosch's umbrella organization CORU in June 1976, just three months before their participation in the Letelier assassination. CORU then participated in the creation of Blas Piñar's Fascist International in Rome in October 1976, just one month after that assassination. Sanchez had been named CIA station chief in Madrid in August 1976, where he was in a position to coordinate with Blas Piñar. Although it is argued by some that the United States did not direct Operation Condor, it is clear from what we have presented that elements of the U.S. military and intelligence community associated historically with the Dulles faction, did promote Operation Condor, and even if they did not specifically order such assassinations as that of Letelier, they permitted such assassinations to occur. Sanchez was the official CIA liaison with death squads in Ibero-America. He recruited Cuban exiles to carry out assassinations as early as 1963. He is also known to have worked closely with the death squads in Guatdmala. He and others like him, in the tradition of the Spanish Grand Inquisitor Torquemada, have no compunction about cold-blooded murder and torture.

Operation Condor http://en.wikipedia.....S._involvement In the case of Chile, the initiative to prevent the election of Salvador Allende as President was taken by International Telephone and Telegraph (ITT), one of the key international cartels that had worked with the Nazis before and during World War II. In 1970, weeks before Allende's election, ITT board member and former CIA director John McCone called CIA director Richard Helms and proposed ITT-CIA collaboration to block Allende. On Sept. 11, 1970, McCone, Helms, and Kissinger held a meeting in which ITT offered $1 million "for the purpose of assisting any [u.S.] government plan . . . to stop Allende." Like Standard Oil, ITT has a history of collaboration with the Nazis. Prior to World War II, Sosthenes Behn, the American chief of ITT, and Gerhardt Westrick, the head of ITT in Germany and an associate of John Foster Dulles, appointed both Walter Schellenberg, head of the Gestapo's counterintelligence service (SD) and Baron Kurt von Schröder, Hitler's private banker and a member of the Gestapo, to the board of directors of ITT in Germany, to ensure the company's continuing existence there during the upcoming war. Throughout World War II, the American ITT corporation remained in a partnership with the Nazi government. The German branch of ITT provided the German Army, Navy, and Air Force with telephones, air raid warning devices, radar equipment, fuses for artillery shells, etc. During World War II, Chile, like Argentina, was originally neutral. Despite considerable Allied pressure, Chile maintained diplomatic relations with Germany, Japan, and Italy. Only in 1943 did Chile break relations with the Axis powers, and not until a few months before their surrender in 1945 did Chile actually declare war. The Chilean Nazi Party was established in 1932. Its members included both Chileans of German background as well as non-German right-wing Chileans. The party adopted the swastika, stormtroooper uniforms for its activists, and the greeting "Heil Chile!" The official Nazi presence in Chile was extensive. There were eight consulates for a country of barely 5 million people. Secret radio transmitters up and down the Pacific coastline reported on Allied shipping movement. Although this Nazi movement was not strong enough to prevent Chile from breaking relations with the Axis powers, after the war it provided a safe haven for German Nazis and other European fascists who escaped on the Nazi rat-lines via Argentina. The two key Nazi war criminals who played a direct role in Operation Condor were Walter Rauff and Klaus Barbie. After the Pinochet coup in 1973, Rauff became one of the key advisors to Pinochet's DINA. During World War II Rauff was the SS officer responsible for overseeing the development of mobile gas vans, which were used to execute as many as 250,000 Jews. Rauff was the head of the Milan Sicherheitsdienst (SD), the elite intelligence service, which made him the chief SS security officer for all of northwest Italy. In that position he assisted SS Gen. Karl Wolff in the Operation Sunrise separate peace negotiations with Allen Dulles, who was the station chief of the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS) in Bern, Switzerland. When the German Army in Italy surrendered on April 29, 1945, Rauff was released, despite his involvement in war crimes, to the custody of "S Force Verona," an OSS unit working with the British-American "Special Counter Intelligence" team in Italy (SCI-Z), headed by James Angleton, who was a protégé of Allen Dulles. This was done over the objections of the U.S. Army's Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC), who called him "an unrepentant Nazi" and recommended lifetime imprisonment, if not execution. The other major Nazi war criminal who participated in Operation Condor was Klaus Barbie, the "Butcher of Lyon." Barbie was protected by and worked for the Dulles faction of U.S. intelligence in Germany until 1951, when he was smuggled via the Nazi rat-lines to South America, where he played a critical role in Operation Condor. Barbie joined the Hitler youth movement on April 2, 1933. In 1935, he joined Himmler's SS and shortly thereafter became a member of the elite SD security service, where was trained as an investigator and interrogator—i.e., torturer. In 1937, he joined the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP, the Nazi Party). In 1940, he went to Amsterdam where he served in the Central Bureau for Jewish Emigration, rounding up the city's Jewish population for deportation. In 1943, he was deployed to Lyon, France to eradicate the French Resistance. There he was chief of Section VI, Intelligence and Section IV, the Gestapo. He was responsible for the torture and death of more than 26,000 people. For the arrest, torture, and death of French Resistance leader Jean Moulin, he was awarded the "First Class Iron Cross With Swords" by Hitler himself. After the war, Barbie fled from France back to Germany, where he worked for the British until April 1947, when he was recruited by the Dulles-controlled faction of the U.S. Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC). He was described by Robert S. Taylor, the CIC officer who recruited him, as "an honest man, both intellectually and personally, absolutely without nerves or fear. He is strongly anti-Communist and a Nazi idealist, who believes that he and his beliefs were betrayed by the Nazis in power." In 1952, and again in 1954, the Military Tribunal of Lyon, France sentenced him to death in absentia. But the Dulles faction of the U.S. intelligence community, which had smuggled him out of Germany, continued to protect him from the French. In 1957 Barbie obtained citizenship in Bolivia, under the alias Klaus Altmann.

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http://www.stern.de/....n-1785413.html the German BKA deleted important investigative data. and again the Time show the truth Nazis are everywhere to protect the secret of there little stay behind Nato-Nazi army. and now the big question why do the BKA protect nazi murderers? http://www.heise.de/tp/blogs/8/151412 This informations come to light the new details show the BKA is a part of the NSU or the other way arround the NSU is the Gladio part of the BKA. http://www.spiegel.d....814743,00.html in germany dark corners come to light BKA=NAZI BND=NAZI Police=NAZI Nazis everywhere.

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The CIA and the British secret service MI6, in collaboration with the military alliance NATO and European military secret services set up a network of clandestine anticommunist armies in Western Europe after World War II. The secret soldiers were trained on remote islands in the Mediterranean and in unorthodox warfare centers in England and in the United States by the Green Berets and SAS Special Forces. The network was armed with explosives, machine guns and high-tech communication equipment hidden in underground bunkers and secret arms caches in forests and mountain meadows. In some countries the secret army linked up with right-wing terrorist who in a secret war engaged in political manipulation, harrassement of left wing parties, massacres, coup 'Etats and torture. Codenamed "Gladio" ('the sword'), the Italian secret army was exposed in 1990 by Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti to the Italian Senate, whereupon the press spoke of "The best kept, and most damaging, political-military secret since World War II" (Observer, 18. November 1990) and observed that "The story seems straight from the pages of a political thriller." (The Times, November 19, 1990). Ever since, so-called 'stay-behind' armies of NATO have also been discovered in France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxemburg, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland, Austria, Greece and Turkey. http://en.wikipedia....peration_Gladio the Nazi scandal in Germany become a Gladio scandal. "Security officials are in the rubble of the house called "illegal legal papers," sure. So designated by intelligence for espionage purposes issued identification documents." "Such papers will normally only be undercover agents working on behalf of the intelligence service and are run by the intelligence service. This means that the act in close cooperation with the news service " http://www.welt.de/p...heimdienst.html The DIA Defense Intelligence Agency was involved to support the Gladio operation. the operation was about the Islamist 'Sauerland' terror cell. they kill the female Police officer because she disrupted the 'unlawful' intelligence action of the Gladio. http://www.welt.de/p...htet-haben.html Also the german "protection of the Constitution" was involved. http://www.welt.de/p....ord-dabei.html also BND start to 'unlawful' burn nazi-files in this files they are proved as bad nazis killing innocent http://nachrichten.t....-SS-Leute.html "BND 'unlawful' destroying personnel records of former SS-men-" they to this to eliminate there own Nazi history.

Yet long before the WWII ended the Brits and Americans were plotting to redirect their energy against the Soviets, a déjà vu of the 1918 invasion that the west mounted against the Bolsheviks and certainly the most unknown major event of modern history. To this end the British and US rescued the most murderous Nazi war criminals being sought by investigators of the same governments and mingled them into British and US apparatus of terror. At the same time as the west was planning its covert actions against its WWII ally, it also created the formation of NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Almost in its entirety it was a Nazi enterprise. Nazi General Reinhard Gehlen, for example, who had headed the Russia Desk in the Oberkommando der Wermacht (OKW - Hitler’s Supreme Headquarters) and a consultant on the Final Solution, was secretly brought to the United States where he would deliver his vast storehouse of previously hidden files on the Soviet Union and then set up the Russia Desk for the soon-to-be-formed CIA. Gehlen would then be returned to postwar Germany where he was put in position as head of Germany’s new Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), the German Secret Intelligence Service. In essence, two Russia desks (at least) now functioned instead of just one; both with the same ultimate aim: destroy the Soviet Union and communism. West Germany, now being run by ex-Nazis under Chancellor Konrad Adenauer, joined NATO in 1954 and Gehlen liaised with his pro-Nazi mentor Allen Dulles who would become head of the CIA, with brother John Foster as Secretary of State. Soon NATO began appointing the old tried and true Nazis into high positions within the organization. General Hans Speidel, for example, became commander-in-chief in 1957 of AFCENT (Allied Forces Central Europe). Nazi Admiral Friedrich Guggenberger joined the highly important NATO military committee in Washington and General Adolf Heusinger (Gehlen’s old chief at Hitler’s OKW), became its chairman. At Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers in Europe (SHAPE), Gehlen managed to install several Nazi collaborators into vital positions. Amongst these was Col. Hennig Strumpell, who became deputy to British Maj. Gen. Charles Traver, the Assistant Chief of Staff (Intelligence) at SHAPE. Col. Heinz Koller-Kraus was made head of logistics at Speidel’s AFCENT. Many other Gehlen men would soon join NATO to define its policies. With the same Nazis well integrated into NATO and the CIA becoming an extension of Gehlen’s old Nazi intelligence agency, the Nieue World Ordnung was essentially relocated from the Reichstag in Berlin and dropped into the Pentagon and CIA Langley, Virginia. Added to the anti-Soviet battle plans, US elites recognized the value of Goebbel’s Ministry of Truth and turned the lessons learned into the world’s most sophisticated propaganda network ever created. All western wars would now be given illusionary titles, such as: "wars for democracy", "wars for peace", "wars for justice", "wars for humanitarianism" and on and on. The corporate funded elites that run the UK and Canada were quick to adopt the same essential elements. Dr. Eberhardt Taubert joined the Nazi party in 1931 and was soon promoted to the rank of Sturmführer, following Goebbels to the Ministry of Propaganda. After the war Taubert slid down to South Africa where he found comfort among the neo-Nazis in power in Johannesburg busy designing the apartheid system. In 1950 he returned to Germany and joined his old Nazi pal Reinhard Gehlen, becoming a member of the BND. In his new BND/CIA post, Taubert became chairman of the CIA-backed "National Association for Peace and Freedom" becoming also an adviser to German Minister of Defense, ex-Nazi Franz Josef Strauss and was then assigned by Strauss to NATO as adviser to the "Psychological Warfare Department". Goebbel’s Ministry of Truth being recirculated to feed the Christian fundamentalists some newly constructed, yet old and familiar Tales from the Dark, only having different packaging.

NATO’s Nazi origin Taken from pages 24/25 of 'Waffen SS at War' by A. J. Barker, Ian Allen Ltd., 1982, ISBN 0 7110 1099 4 There is a reason for the fact that there are no precise documentations about personalities like Paul Hausser who initiated the military training of the Waffen SS in 1934: In 1959 Hausser became the founder of a organisation called HIAG (Hilfsgemeinschaft auf Gegenseitigkeit der Angehoerigen der ehemaligen Waffen SS = the auxiliary community on mutuality of the members of the former weapons SS) . He was at this time already 79 years. This organisation of former members of Waffen SS maintained contacts to all relevant political parties in Germany. Thus for example the Federal Chancellor of Germany, at that time Adenauer, visited condemned war criminals in the prison of Verler and have had a conversation with the former Waffen SS general Kurt Meyer. Meyer, known as „Panzermeyer “, was selected in the year 1959 to become the HIAG spokes person. As a member of the German parliament, the Social Democrat, SPD, Helmut Schmidt reported to HIAG Hamburg in the year 1954 with that to the topic „Soldatentum and social-democracy “with the intention „difficulties from the way to vacate “, which with „the HIAG Fürsorgearbeit still on the part of the SPD meet weapon SS veterans “.Helmut Schmidt became chancellor from 1974 till 1982 and was a strong advocate of re armouring debate for stationing of nuclear short-range missiles. Paul Hausser died in September 1972 in the age of 92 years he was active in the HAIG society to his late 80’s and due to his lobbying for the HAIG-society it resulted in remarkable political success, so for example the equalization of pension for former members of Waffen SS with all former members of the regular German Armed Forces. This indicated that the Waffen SS was not illegal anymore. In this consent the society succeeded to accomplish public meetings with up to 20.000 participants in public.

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