Orogun01

What will happen though is that every bit of freedom that erodes in the name of something isn't going to be given back. Terrorism may become a thing of the past but I doubt the NSA is going to stop spying on Americans. Eventually it will reach a point where no one in the world could argue that America isn't a plutocracy.

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Actually, I just want the world to shut up about misogyny and boobs in games and to stop giving award to someone who just made a bunch of low budget YouTube videos (even after she raised a lot of money)

If what the video Valsuem posted checks out this isn't so much the government as corrupt officials utilizing the government to make their fortunes (although to be honest this isn't something new in the US) It seems that the levels of corruption and their blatant disregard for public opinion are beginning to anger people. Whether their fears jump to the irrational; and fear always does, its undeniable that the US government has been growing corrupt for a long time now and the public seem to be beginning to understand what this means.

I've been playing Warlock 2 and boy do I have trouble putting it down. It has gotten to the point that I won't even start to play without clearing a few hours for free time. IMO, they should had switched from CRPG mechanics and more into SRPG or Grand Strategy type of mechanics. Also combat is broken, I get it that they want me to feel as if i'm in an expedition but when the enemies seem to have unlimited members that are always fresh and relaxed it creates a pretty disparate double standard. Plus, they expect me to believe that a guy clad in armor has trouble running through a savage in a loincloth?

True, but it's making the ****ty ones disappear, which is kind of a win.

Orog, there are people in the feminist movement who are extremists IMO and I can understand your concern, but they don't represent what the feminist movement is suppose to stand for. It does much more good than bad Yet I would daresay that most of the knowledge people have comes from those extremists, who due to sensationalizing by the media, trivialization by opponents, or extreme opinions have cemented the public's view about feminism.

Welcome back, we were beginning to miss you. Because human beings do a better job of displaying that they don't let violent media make them violent, while they don't seem to do as well with not taking ideas and imagery and disassociating them. I also feel that violence is better socialized against in other ways. Because you don't understand the terms. Rape culture is NOT "all men are rapists." Rape culture is a term to describe a culture in which prevalent attitudes and practices normalize, excuse, tolerate, and even condone rape. This is from the very first line in the wikipedia article. The second sentence is this: "Examples of behaviors commonly associated with rape culture include victim blaming, sexual objectification, and trivializing rape." For instance, someone suggesting "rape victims should just not make a big deal out of it because it gives power to the rapist" is an example of victim blaming, as well as rape trivialization. IIRC, this is what you actually said to me. It's not up to you, or me, or anyone else to tell someone how they should or should not deal with an assault like that. So yes, I consider a statement like that to be one that contributes to rape culture. No, I do not consider you a rapist. Some extra reading from a place like here. One thing they point out is how rape culture is a culture that feels rape is inevitable. Think about some people getting upset because what a woman was wearing and where she was walking was focused on during a rape, and how she shouldn't be there and certainly not wearing that? How many people go "well yeah, of course she's taking a risk." Soon it becomes her fault that she was raped. As for other examples of rape culture: Look up Stubenville. Some high school boys raped a girl. Adults obstruct justice to protect the boys and the school's football program, and there's a healthy degree of focus on how this is tragic for the boys because they had promising football careers and how they may not even get into college now if a conviction is made. There's another case of Raeteah Parsons from Nova Scotia. Very similar to Stubenville in that boys raped a girl and took videos/photos, and the girl was the one ostracized for it by her peers (she tried NOT coming out with an accusation to start too). She was bullied out of school and harassed by other boys that wanted to have sex with her. The family tried moving, but the bullying eventually caught up with them again thanks to social media... and the girl was driven to suicide. Saratoga High School had a similar thing, which some consider worse than Stubenville, where again guys took advantage of a drunk woman, took dozens of pictures of her being abused, and would share it with the student body. There's an article here in Rolling Stone. Harvard's Crimson posted an editorial from a Havard Student (kudos to the Crimson doing this... I consider that a positive thing). Until 1983, in Canada it wasn't possible for a husband to rape his wife. That doesn't mean that all husbands raped their wife. It did mean that society's codified laws meant that it was not something seen as possible (which is absurd as far as I'm concerned. If a spouse isn't interested in having sex, forcing that spouse, man or woman, same sex or otherwise, it's absolutely rape). That's rape culture. (rectifying this by altering the laws is an example of eroding that culture, which is something that I support) But there's still issues: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-canadas-sex-assault-laws-violate-rape-victims/article14705289/?page=all * Most judges now attend courses to become more sensitive, but still hand out sentences, Prof. Boyle of UBC says, that suggest victims invited trouble by how they acted or dressed while out on a date, or with those closest to them. * For example, in October, 2009, the Ontario Court of Appeal imposed a 10-year sentence on a man convicted of assaulting a woman who was working a night shift at a convenience store. The same month, it ruled on a man who had tied his wife to a bed, covered her mouth with duct tape, punched her in the face, cut off her underwear with a knife and threatening to slash her vagina before trying to rape her. Only on appeal was his sentencing increased to 21 months – and even then the sentence was conditional, so the man, by this time out of jail, didn’t have to go back. The man fitting the "typical" image of a rapist: 10 years. The atypical rapist... 21 month conditional sentence. I don't believe this is endemic to only Canada, however. Here's a cartoonist's take on the discussions regarding sexual harassment I was going to go into your misunderstanding of the term patriarchy too, but I've been writing this for a while and have to go soon. I did point out a study in a different thread of the male and female researchers BOTH critiquing an equivalently qualified woman candidate in a study (only the name was changed) more aggressively than a man. There's *some* reason for this type of assessment, and the idea that society (somehow) has us believe that women are less capable at the physical sciences is one possible assessment. This is the idea of "the patriarchy," which is more of a nebulous, abstract concept of institutionalized ways to reinforce a specific set of gender roles. It's important to note that men can be affected by the patriarchy too, in that they are ostracized if not displaying a suitably masculine image. Men are biased against in custody battles. They are biased against in adoption. I don't know this for certain, but I certainly perceive that they are more likely to be ostracized for being homosexual. (despite Volo's declarations, feminism has nothing to do with acting feminine - although feminism is more of an umbrella that has a variety of perspectives now). I find it troubling that you call out someone for "having a different idea of what feminism is than what is actuallly happening" because it doesn't seem like you actually understand the terms being used. But I'm not sure if it's the other people that suffer from cognitive dissonance on this topic. How many people on this forum point out that the extreme people are just that, extreme? How many people on this forum actually espouse those extreme views? Yet in a thread that I was taking part in, not long after I let it be known that I was a feminist, you post some hateful diatribe of what feminism is. I think you're mistaken about what feminism is. I think there may be some bias in your sampling if you think that feminism is as extreme that you think it is. This is probably one of the best post I've seen from an opposing argument. There is however the matter of how the hell does real life rape translate into Ms. Saarkessian and her ilk making their bones by claiming that sexualization in media causes rape. It really seems to me that feminism has become like Catholicism in a regard were the actions of a few have soiled the image for the rest. Still, I don't understand how more "inclusive" games will help prevent rape.

I thought it was a teasing friendly remark; I must work on my PR.

I didn't know you where capable of rational, moderate opinions. At least you would hope that a voice of reason would rise in these types of situations, it seems sensationalism has all but killed rationality unless its for an agenda.

I don't think that would sit well with her followers.

If you think that being payed for your trouble while what has been taken from you is never to be returned is a victory, then yeah people do win.

Crazy should be its own alignment.

That's a classic case of an interpretive problem we often run into on these very fora. There is certainly a small vocal minority of feminists that basically support the position you've articulated. But that doesn't therefore mean that the majority of people who consider themselves feminists also think that men are by nature rapists. It would be nigh impossible to generate evidence for that viewpoint without simply generalizing from a small sample size, as you do there in that last sentence. I mean, I can do exactly the opposite, and say that of all the feminists I've met, not one of them has that stereotypical man-hating attitude. And that leaves us right back at square one. Bruce's definition of feminism I think is actually spot on, hewing as it does closely to common sense and not instead to a dismissive wishful generalization. Anita Sarkeesian; who won an ambassador award on GDC, has certainly used the terms rape culture and patriarchy. Terms which seem to originate within that "small"(I have no real knowledge of their numbers) minority. So it has every argument made related to feminism and games its laden with the same tones that belies their origin withing that minority. I'm not generalizing from a small sample, that small sample happens to be some of the leading feminists in what they call Third Wave feminism and it's being taught in Academia. Otherwise things like Patriarchy and Rape Culture wouldn't have come out from the fringe elements and into the mainstream. I have said before that rational feminism should either rebrand or come out against this insanity. In game culture it seems to have taken deep roots among a group of people who for some reason see it as reasonable or advantageous. @Chris: I don't subscribe to the notion can be men are sexualized in the same overt manner as women, it seems to me that the eligibility of a male lies in his competence.(There was actually a study done on that) It just bears to mind that women think and have different tastes than men. Also; I get the feeling that this is turning into its own discussion and we are still on the DA thread. Although feminism and BW seem to go hand in hand nowadays.

One of the argument used to justify how video game violence doesn't translate into real world violence is that people have the ability to tell one from the other. Did we lose that capacity in the last decade? So why should objectifying be an issue since we know that it is not real? Game companies cater to male audiences because male audiences have made the bulk of core gamers for the past 30 something years. Before you quote the now infamous "women make half of gamers" statistic, that is a misinterpretation of the data. The sample included social games played over Facebook, and IOS. If you question is why that demographic hasn't made the jump then there is a number of factors at play that can be summed up as publishers don't want to invest capital on a gamble when they can have a safe bet. Also I hate the use of the word inclusive as if it were a virtue as if somehow it made something better. I frankly don't see how would a period piece be made better by being more inclusive to the point of anachronism and alienating the audience. Of course it might satisfy the SJW who are so far up their own asses that have come to believe that their metaphors are the same thing as real life. On a semi-related note; it seems to me that you have a different idea of what feminism is than what is actually happening. I don't know how you can say feminism doesn't think men are rapists and believe in rape culture without a massive cognitive dissonance. Its a bit concerning because I though you capable of critical thinking. Also, there is a lot of quotes from leading feminists explicitly saying that men are rapists. And dragons, darkspawn and stuff

I think you need to put quotation marks on the "dealt" part, the state seems to not know or care (worse yet if they condone it) and the government is far too big for any man to fight alone. Plus by the time you can take legal action the government will have likely taken hold and made use of the land and will be very unlikely to give it back. Ultimately seems a case of might becoming legal right.

That's how many people see the situation Whereas how I see their argument is "Games made for male audience should cater more to women" Instead of asking more games targeted at them. Partly I believe the problem is that there isn't an idea of what a woman's game is. IMO cause feminist seem incapable of enjoying anything, which if they could they wouldn't be feminists in the first place.

Will it have a fighter ship that doesn't fly at grandma's speed?

I recently remember that I really liked The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, upon rewatch I saw a lot of household names that hadn't made it back then. It was kind of odd.

oh boy, it was originally written by Chris Ryan he's, like, the coolest dude after John McAleese. although, I have reservations about his writing abilities The original Brit Series or the American collaboration?

It's a Bethesda game, the objective is always going from point A to B. Which is made all the more enjoyable if there is something pretty to look at. I like Fallout 3 better than NV even though I will admit to NV being the superior game.

Ah, Lena Headey! How I miss her cheek s Seriously, does anyone know what happened to them?

Yeah, but I think those guns were with that chick.

Actually in honour of the thread I'm trying to invent as many euphemisms as possible for having your rented rowing boat contain one too many passengers. Hey! I own my boat, its the other guy that's renting.

I have that same tendency. The more I'm itching to play a game the longer I generally spend on character creation (assuming the creation tool is robust enough to allow me to spend a lengthy amount of time designing a character), which seems counterintuitive since the longer I spend in the character creator the longer I delay myself from playing the actual game. And, yes, Oblivion was the worst. I'd spend an hour making a character, go through the escape the dungeon sequence, then step outside only to find out my character's skin color was many shades different and the complexion looked completely different than what it looked like in the creation tool. The Oblivion character creator is (fittingly enough) the Horse Armor DLC of character creators. I think we have enough experience with disappointment to realize that the best part of most games is the anticipation, it is good to relish it for while longer. In my case i'm fastidious about making things look a certain way, job hazard I guess.