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  1. 8 hours ago, Hurlshot said:

    The sad part there is that you know 3 people whose insurance refused to pay for their care. We all pay a bunch of money to insurance companies hoping they will cover our medical bills when it is in their best interest to cover as little as possible. Then we hope the hospital will cut us a deal if the insurance refuses to pay. It's a stupid system.

    That's every insurance really. I agree it's a bad system, but I don't see how government regulation will fix it, best thing is to have everyone competing that way we get the lowest rates with the widest coverage.

  2. On 7/23/2020 at 10:52 PM, Malcador said:

    American healthcare is so weird from the outside, some times.

    The simple version is that due to monopolies and employer mandated insurance hospitals inflate their bills. I've literally met at least 3 people that have their bill reduced from thousands to hundreds of dollars once the insurance wouldn't pay.

  3. 4 hours ago, Guard Dog said:

    I thought this was satire.... it wasn't. 

    America should allow other countries to vote in the 2020 election

    Somehow that made it even funnier!

    Well on the one hand it would legitimize any American foreign intervention on the other hand it would open the elections to more corruption as we can't really properly supervise our current voting, would be worse if it was global. So in short, it's a win win for the oligarch, internationalist **** that rule politics.

  4. 6 hours ago, InsaneCommander said:

    Some people in Spain speak a different language or dialect that looks a lot like Portuguese. Galego, I think. I remember meeting some of them and being perplexed. What was that, something even closer to Portuguese than Spanish? lol

    Oh, and before we go off topic:

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    Catalan...Honestly I'm surprised that Spain managed to have almost an entire continent speak their language when they couldn't manage to get their country to speak their language.

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  5. 55 minutes ago, InsaneCommander said:

    No. I'm from Brazil. I do intend to start learning Spanish, maybe later this year.

    Cool, I've been struggling with Portuguese. Mostly, I've been wondering why does Portugal even exist and how in the 7 hells they speak a different language even though they were the same country as Spain for ages! Anyways, good luck learning Spanish dear old carioca.

  6. 5 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:

    Rosemary's Baby (1968). I can see why it's considered a classic, lovely film. Just a touch of an underwhelming ending, but besides that, great, especially for 1968 - the way the few action sequences were shot so quickly and precisely while the dialogue between different characters flowed together so well and realistically was very unlike a 1968 movie, and in the latter case, better than many movies today.

    I'm sure this is common knowledge by now but, Polanski is a monster that played mind games with the lead actress Mia Farrow. At some point he actually convinced her to walk through real traffic while he filmed, and yes it made into the movie.

  7. 1 hour ago, Bartimaeus said:

    Yikes, :biggrin:.

    I also liked The Witch a little more as well. Some of those long takes of Dafoe's brilliant ranting and ravings were just nuts, though. I haven't seen too many of Dafoe's films, but the few I've seen (this, The Florida Project, and...something else I'm forgetting the title of), he's just been awesome.

    If you seen Nosferatu either the original or the Wergner Herzod remake, I would recommend Shadow of the Vampire with Dafoe playing the titular role.

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  8. 3 hours ago, Malcador said:

    Aren't people focusing on the municipal budgets not the state? So cutting the LAPD, for example, isn't going to affect a rural area?

    LA has rural areas,  I watch a lot of Tim Pool. One of the examples he brings up to show why a popular vote system is bad is LA and it rural areas. Essentially the major cities voted themselves priority water rights over the rural areas. So a bunch of farmers can't use water but golf courses have their sprinklers on. It is also illegal to collect rainwater in LA, at least it was years ago. IDK if that changed.

    Edit: my bad, he said California not LA.

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  9. 1 minute ago, Orogun01 said:

    I laugh at how transparent that image is with its bias, welfare programs cost the US on average 600+ billions. So I can see why that pot of ice cream got left out or why none of the small ones on your picture show how much we spend on those programs.
    I guess we can't let facts get in the way of our biases.

    BTW, conflating the total US budget to support Defunding the police is a type of dangerous stupidity that will lead to people in areas that are already running underfunded asking to defund the police. More so if you defund the police in some of these states you will likely end up with police being focused on the big cities leaving the rural areas of the state running on fumes.

    Nothing personal Hurl, I just don't like propaganda and I'm always skeptics of data interpretations.

    Double post, sorry.

  10. 1 hour ago, Hurlshot said:

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    I laugh at how transparent that image is with its bias, welfare programs cost the US on average 600+ billions. So I can see why that pot of ice cream got left out or why none of the small ones on your picture show how much we spend on those programs.
    I guess we can't let facts get in the way of our biases.

    BTW, conflating the total US budget to support Defunding the police is a type of dangerous stupidity that will lead to people in areas that are already running underfunded asking to defund the police. More so if you defund the police in some of these states you will likely end up with police being focused on the big cities leaving the rural areas of the state running on fumes.

    Nothing personal Hurl, I just don't like propaganda and i'm always skeptics of data interpretations.

  11. 1 hour ago, Gromnir said:

    myth. cities still need recognize second amendment, which by definition means they cannot be particular onerous. the number o' laws regarding concealed carry is infinitesimal compare to auto laws. serious gonna compare vehicle code to conceal carry laws? 

    and no, gunpowder laws were not existing only 'cause o' the danger o' storage. you would like to believe such, but you don't actual know. such laws were specific used as a way to prevent functional use o' firearms in many townships even after invention o' minie ball and then cartridges. 

    many people drive autos every day, and a very small number of people (relative speaking) are injured compared to hours of driving. auto use is a functional necessity in our modern world, and many of us go thousands of hours o' use w/o an accident. compare to gun use. even with safety precautions up the wahzoo, people get injured from gun use. if you could somehow compare hours o' use o' cars to guns, the numbers for gun deaths would be even more startling, which again is no surprise as firearms is designed to injure or kill. 

    tell us people overreact to mass shootings? ok. we agree. now what? such recognition don't change just how deadly is firearms, which is why even in a few european nations where everybody and their grandpa seems to have a hunting rifle or shotgun, they typical has prohibitions on handguns. 

    safer? numbers such as we posted, and you comical misread, make clear firearms don't offer us greater safety.

    freer? portland suggests the relative extreme US citizen gun possession is not discouraging stormtroopers from coming into states and towns to violate Constitutional rights. 

    HA! Good Fun!

    ps irony 'bout guns making us freer bit is am beginning to suspect the vast number o' second amendment honks crowing 'bout freedom and guns would only train their arsenals on police if those agents o' tyranny were coming to take guns away from the patriots... and perhaps their booze and/or children... in order o' presumed importance. 

    There are a fair amount of hidden camera videos as well as news reporters who thought getting a gun would be as easy as buying fast food,  that found out how difficult the process can be made by state legislature. Never mind states that require a CCW license and make that process impossible.

    I will concede that you are more familiar with legislation than I, I would love to have some sources on the gunpowder laws. For my own edification, please.

    That's not how the media treats statistics, it doesn't matter if a small number of people are injured in car accidents. If they treated car accidents as they do guns, they would show the most horrific, negligent car accident and then they would quote the statistics to imply correlation. Also; car usage is not a necessity, NY relies heavily on public transport and you could say that only qualified drivers should be on the road, so only Uber/Taxi drivers with the proper permits and training are allowed. Because; another point that the anti gun people ignore is that they're not against guns, as they would like the police to still have guns. They're against private owner ship of guns

    If guns don't offer safety how come the states with the most stringent regulations against gun ownership are the ones with the most gun crime?

    Gun possession didn't stop the British and their sympathizers from fighting against the colonials but it did made it possible for the citizenry to oppose them.

    HA! Good Talk!

  12. 15 minutes ago, Gromnir said:

    you are asking if 4.43 is the total number o' 2017 violent gun deaths in the US?

    ...

    and you realize how many car safety measures and laws there is... how many improvements is made to car safety every year? need acquire a driver's license after passing a skills and knowledge test. no driving over 55 mph on highways or over 25 near schools. need wear a seat belt.  if one kinda automobile were thousand o' times more likely to result in death than others classes o' autos, would we simple shrug our shoulders and blame drivers... bad drivers kill people, not bad cars?

    for chrissakes, we got more limits on fireworks than firearms. for near 100 years US firearms prohibitions were unnecessary 'cause the gunpowder ownership and storage were restricted often to a draconian degree. in 2020 we got many laws restricting fireworks, 'cause gunpowder is dangerous... some kid could lose an eye. anybody see the disconnect? 

    oh, and while should be obvious, firearms is a single purpose tool. guns is designed to kill or cause serious bodily injury. 

    we got the second amendment. period. can't do laws for firearms same as cars or fireworks. nevertheless, is ridiculous to compare cars and guns, and the relative dangers they present. 

    HA! Good Fun!

    There isn't an anti-car lobby that makes acquiring licenses nearly impossible, some of the more liberal, cosmopolitan states have incredibly heavy restrictions on acquiring guns and what kind of guns you can have. There are also a serious number of laws involving the storage and safe carriage of guns with some states requiring a conceal license and forbidding open carry.
    Gunpower laws were required as it was a public hazard because improper storage could lead to fires. We have cartridges nowadays so it is no longer an issue.
    It is not a ridiculous comparison as it reveals the attitudes we have towards car ownership and gun ownership. Despite many people driving by car crashes, encountering bad drivers and having near crashes every day there isn't a call for car reform or to restrict car speeds, I mean does anyone really need to go over 75 mph? But if some white kid in a white neighborhood shoots up a school one day out of the year everyone wants guns banned. I bring the race issue because all throughout the 90's gun in schools was an issue with inner city and low income schools, so much that they had metal detectors in schools. Yet it became politicized only after Columbine.

  13. 9 hours ago, Gromnir said:

    if you are concerned with keeping people safe, the obvious solution is to put additional firearms into the hands of scared and angry people. 

    ...

    wait, that makes no sense at all.

    also, am thinking gd is using "polite" wrong.

    How The U.S. Compares With The Lowest Rates Of Violent Gun Deaths Worldwide
    Violent gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2017

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    Is that a per capita comparison or total?  Because the US has a way larger population that some of those countries; also the narrowness of GUN deaths. How about we count violent deaths, China has no guns but knife killing sprees in schools and hospitals seem to be a problem over there. One saying in the gun community, if you give up liberty in order to gain safety you deserve neither. By your order of thought, we shouldn't drive cars because of bad car drivers.

  14. 1 hour ago, 213374U said:

      

    Yes, well. You will excuse my cynicism if I don't take your interest at face value, and respectfully decline your request to do your research for you -- especially when you have not provided a similar comparative analysis for the countries whose supposed diversity you are using as a basis for your hypothesis.

    If you're genuinely interested, read up on the different cultures and empires that have risen and fallen in Greater India since antiquity, from the Vedic period to the Mughal empire. The Kushan empire that replaced Alexander's Indo-Greek successor kingdoms, and the fall of the Guptas to the Huns. The birth of Buddhism and the establishment of the Delhi Sultanate. The migratory movements from all over Asia into India of people fleeing the Mongols. The influence of the "Silk Road" phenomenon as the original cultural melting pot. India really is a fascinating place with a long, rich history next to which even Europe's own pales in comparison.

    But yeah, cute.

    Ok, this is an aside but I find the Indo Greek culture fascinating. Particularly the fact that you have Buddha statues and reliefs with Hercules protecting him and this is some of the earliest representations of the religion. History is awesome once you peel back the politics.

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