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Pranksters troll food experts with "Organic" McDonalds
Zoraptor replied to Oerwinde's topic in Way Off-Topic
There are a lot of safeguards and precautions required when slaughtering meat legitimately, it isn't just that it is old, worthless hence very cheap horses being slaughtered and labelled as beef- that is after all what happens to the equivalent boner cows once their time dairying is up- it's also that if they are killed for mislabelling purposes they are often killed in circumstances where few of the hygiene etc costs associated with legitimate slaughter are present. After all, you're breaking laws and regulations by mislabelling anyway, so why abide by hygiene regs as well? So you have a cheaper meat usually used for petfood (or glue) being prepared more cheaply and then sold as a more expensive product, if you can sell at $2 premium you make several hundred extra dollars per carcass. Particularly in Eastern Europe horses are still used quite a lot in agriculture, so there are more available for slaughter than here or in the US. -
Not really. Even if you're pro-gamergate you could get the rape/death threats, and doxxed. It seems being a public figure in this issue at all can get you doxxed/threatened. Most of the trolls are third party and simply have nothing to do with either side. It's a joke article, from an offshoot of The Onion.
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Pranksters troll food experts with "Organic" McDonalds
Zoraptor replied to Oerwinde's topic in Way Off-Topic
Not necessarily. There's nothing precluding lots of pesticide use, you're just limited in the pesticides that can be used. Garlic sprays, plant oils (neem etc), derris, pyrethrum, btk (Bacillus thuringiensis var Karstaki) and copper sprays are all available. They all except copper have the advantage- from the consumer pov- of being non persistent, short lived and non toxic, withholding period on pyrethrum for example is 1 day which for some non organic pesticides it can be up to a month. And that's why one of the big complaints about GMOs is that when they create insect resistant plant strains that manufacture things like the cry proteins from btk they are giving a purely short term advantage, like engineering penicillin production into chickens or pigs would be it's only useful until resistance develops- at which point both the new strains and the original chemical are redundant. -
Then you're better off saying nothing, really. If the only reason you're posting is to... make you feel good or stroke your ego or make someone else feel bad- and you admit it- then you should really consider not posting, and if you do don't expect everyone to react well. Also... Well, no, you aren't. If you're going to decide who is 'productive' and try to run off anyone deemed non productive then you definitely aren't always open to discussion, you're sometimes open but sometimes just want to yell instead- basically, exactly what the loud faction of SJWs love to do by using all the labels you find annoying. I've never had any particular problem with Bryy or aluminumO3 or Enoch to think that discussing something with them is pointless, even if I accept there's little realistic chance to change minds. If you're overly antagonistic even that small chance is gone. I think everyone understands the impulse to vent unproductively and most people will do so one time or another, but it really isn't a good look.
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Meh. You aren't going to convince anyone by dogpiling, and I'd like to think of that as being something the SJWs primarily do. If you're going to try and point out that someone is being inconsistent you're far better off just being straight and plain about it rather than trying to score points or going overboard on the rhetoricals. Yeah, it is annoying that a lot of antiGG decide that anything has to presaged with disavowing misogyny or whatever- and that is definitely a PR/ rhetorical technique to frame narrative- and it is inconsistent as well but if your aim is to actually convince someone that that is the case you aren't going to do it by being overly aggressive, you're far more likely to just convince the person you're a asterisks and drive them away. You probably won't convince them with sweet reason either, but at least you have a chance. And if you think simply driving someone away is sweet victory then, well, you've got a lot more in common with the SJWs than you think.
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Pranksters troll food experts with "Organic" McDonalds
Zoraptor replied to Oerwinde's topic in Way Off-Topic
Typically a tree with fewer, smaller fruit has fruit that taste better. It's particularly apparent with grapes, as low yield years tend to have best quality wines while bumper crops yield large amounts of lower quality wine. As with most things the benefits of Organic produce really depends upon how they are produced- typically they still have a lot of the bad inputs of non organic stuff like reliance on fossil fuelled tractors and some of the organic chemicals used are pretty unpleasant even if they are 'natural' (an arbitrary distinction, copper based sprays are not really natural and not very good for the environment, but most organic schedules allow them). On the other hand GMOs especially have some extremely dodgy PR claims as well. Roundup Ready crops, quite apart from locking farmers into cripplingly restrictive contracts to keep Monsanto's trademarked (but not longer patented) glyphosate herbicide relevant and make it extremely difficult to escape from Monsanto once signed, claim to lower the need for herbicides. Well, no, if you can freely spray a crop with herbicide that doesn't kill them but kills weeds you do so, if spraying will kill your crops as well you don't. With non roundup redy crops you can only spray once, with roundup ready you can drown them in roundup if you so desire. (Somewhat peripherally, cows themselves are not really significant contributors to greenhouse gasses. They produce methane which is very effective as one, but is also unstable and does not accumulate. Their food, of course, comes from crops which are made primarily from... atmospheric CO2 so breakdown products of that are carbon neutral at worst, only transport costs and the like aren't) -
Happiest Countries in the World proves Western Ideology Works
Zoraptor replied to BruceVC's topic in Way Off-Topic
Don't know if Al-Sisi has children, the thing that really stuffed Mubarak was that he went for a dynastic succession for his son Gamal, and a lot of the vested powers hated that. The vested interests are why Morsi was in an impossible situation from the outset, the military controls a large proportion of Egypt's nominal economy and was used to running things with only oversight from (Air Force General) Mubarak, the judiciary (laughably referred to by Sisi and others as 'independent') was full of hard core Mubarak apparatchniks as were the police, and the Salafis were funded from Saudi Arabia who have banned the MB and hated Egypt being run by a Qatari client. All in all there was no way he could have run the country properly even had he wanted to, because nobody else wanted him to. It suited the military especially to have things not work, so they could step in to 'save the nation', but it also suited the police, judiciary and Saudi Arabia as well. So, nothing worked. (Western politicians and media pundits love to self deceive about the extent of liberal support and the arab spring, but even when including every non salafi/ islamist seat as being liberal- including the Mubaraknics as were etc- they managed less than a third of members in either elected chamber, even though Morsi failed to get the Saddamesque 96%< Al-Sisi vote share in the presidential vote) -
Eh, they said that only three people had close contact with this guy, which is pretty low if no precautions were being taken. Though it would be somewhat ironic if the US did have problems, given that Nigeria had a guy turn up and basically drop dead at an airport near the beginning of the outbreak and they managed to stamp the outbreak out despite all their problems.
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Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition
Zoraptor replied to Tale's topic in Way Off-Topic
That would depend on the actual balance of support/ boycott vis-a-vis Gamergate. If the negative impact is on people who don't buy there anyway it won't have any effect, if the people shopping there have the ability to spell it won't have any effect or if GG people or people who don't care represent their clientele it won't have any effect. Don't think Gamersgate is publicly traded either and does not rely on advertising. Realistically, they have the far more significant trouble that all Steam Key Resellers have of being beholden to the good will of their primary competitor for survival and thus being practically irrelevant, since they're selling their competitor's product which can be withdrawn any time their competition gets too hot; but that's wholly independent of Gamergate and more to do with various other factors more suitable for another thread. -
Funny, I can actually hear WJC saying that while reading.
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Happiest Countries in the World proves Western Ideology Works
Zoraptor replied to BruceVC's topic in Way Off-Topic
Nastiness is not a defining characteristic of Salafism though, at least in the respect that all nasty (sunni) muslims are Salafi. MB, like AK, are (broadly orthodox, sunni) Islamist rather than Salafi, who many Sunnis don't even regard as actually being Sunni. It's all rather complicated though, due to various Gulf States supporting different movements of differing levels of whackiness that look fairly similar from the outside. In terms of Egypt, since Qatar backs the MB the Salafi Al-Nour party (second largest after the MB's political arm, and considerably more extreme) stood aside when al-Sisi launched his coup because they're beholden to Saudi Arabia, who don't like any other arab state having influence and think Qatar are uppity. That is one of the primary reasons for all the in fighting in Syria and in Libya, as well as the rise of ISIS. Qatar actually has more Salafis by population proportion than Saudi, but basically all Salafi (AKA Wahhabi, though they don't like that term) movements are sponsored and run by Saudi either officially or through back channels because Saudi is their spiritual home. Very little in the Middle East makes consistent sense from a western perspective, which is why the west keeps on stuffing up. Saudi sponsors Egypt, who then bomb a Saudi proxy militia in Libya- you look at it from the outside and just end going huh? a lot. -
Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition
Zoraptor replied to Tale's topic in Way Off-Topic
Not really, they were getting consistently (though incompetently) DDOSed such that some people could not access the site for some time, and that will have cost them money. -
Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition
Zoraptor replied to Tale's topic in Way Off-Topic
I think the SJWs are a bit baffled that their usual tactics aren't working as well as they usually do, running up against people who simply don't care about the opinion of the public at large has caused some confusion. That's why you have some pretty much declaring all the BBC, NYT etc coverage as being victory (the use of 'big push' by several prominent antiGGs was somewhat amusing, why not use Douglas Haig's WW1 terminology for moving his drinks cabinet 12 feet closer to Berlin/ sending infantry walking at machine guns...), and being increasingly annoyed that the other side doesn't seem much concerned at all about them. That's the fundamental problem that the antiGG side and the SJWs specifically have. Previously they've tended to come up against people who care about public opinion and can be effectively influenced by that, boycotts and the like; being able to slowly split bits off the opposition as entities bow to the pressure piecemeal. Indeed, that is largely why they've got such a stranglehold over the gaming press, anyone speaking out there is vulnerable to blackballing and the website owners to boycotts, being labelled as misogynist and other influences, and for a commercial enterprise those are critical concerns. GG is a rather different beast, it is decentralised so there are no practical central figures to attack, no financial support to try and remove and since many have lived through the 'games are satanist' and 'games cause school shooting' witch hunts there's very little concern about general public opinion and the media. In fact, negative media coverage tends to reinforce rather than damage the basic support for GG because that sort of behaviour is exactly what many have disliked and a large part of what caused GG in the first place. Add in things like trying to trash talk people who are quite likely to have been exposed to the more... interesting social interactions of MP gaiming and you get the feeling there's a very basic lack of understanding underpinning the whole thing. -
That sort of thing happens a lot less now so I'm not particularly surprised if you or anyone else hasn't seen much or any of it, that's one of the big consequences of being advocated by Hitler, but at one point it was an absolute cornerstone of a wider ranging "WASP Man's Burden" for Britain/ US and Germans especially. You're far more likely to run into basic ethnic/ national 'slurs' than racial ones nowadays because you can generally get away with those especially if they're against an 'enemy', indeed they often make up a part of official PR/ propaganda.
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Historically it happened rather a lot, for example with the British attitude to the Irish or the nazis attitude to Slavs.
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He's been banned by the (Para)Olympic Federation for five years as well as being sentenced to 5 years. I don't think athletics bans have home detention or time off for good behaviour either.
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Happiest Countries in the World proves Western Ideology Works
Zoraptor replied to BruceVC's topic in Way Off-Topic
Bruce really, nobody is that naive. But since I do occasionally take oby topics seriously... If I punch you in the face and steal your lunch I will be happy, you will be sad. By your metrics this means that my philosophy of robbery works, and my 'intervention' has worked since it made me happy- and that is true even if the reason you are sad rather than happy is because of my actions. To be honest that isn't even the worst problem, but that's already 30 seconds more consideration than is really merited. -
UI usability is usually more about the design than the control scheme though, it will have an x,y move control when you move the mouse or stick, buttons you can click and potentially shortcuts using buttons or keys. Something like the UI in TWitcher 2 was not clunky because of its control scheme which was still point and click, it was clunky because of its UI design that used the screen inefficiently, only used part of the screen and had odd scrolling sections instead of presenting important information with immediacy. Similarly for something like Fallout 3, its UI sucked because Bethesda used the same UI template for console and PC so you ended up with something that had to work on an SDTV being put on a system capable of about 16x SD resolution, no amount of testing would change that if they had decided that that limitation was what they were doing.
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It's quite sensible for mapping keyboard controls to be done towards the end. There are far more key combinations available than controller buttons, so of course you'd map controller functions first, they're less flexible and if you run out without realising then you have... problems. Only then do you map the more flexible ones. It's irrelevant anyway, matters nothing whether they're added first or last, so long as they're added.
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That is related strongly to two of the biggest failings in the current press. Firstly, long play stories, the ones that need lots of build up and work, don't tend to happen any more unless the subject is 24 carat sensational and certain to be relevant x months after the investigation starts, because they're hard and expensive as compared to going on Facebook and doing a two minute article about the comments there*. And secondly, focus on short term utterly destroys the function of press as a critic of, especially governmental, actions with long term consequences. It's the old story about civilian targets in Iraq or Afghanistan being hit. First, insist they weren't civilians, then a few days later promise an investigation, then a few weeks later admit you hit civilians. The first bit gets prominent coverage, the second a lot less and the admission basically none, and most see and accept only the first part. Since that method works it gets repeated for everything, doesn't matter if you lie so long as the press picks it up and the lie will only be exposed far later, once nobody cares any more. *Something I've never understood, except as cost saving and an attempt to look relevance. If I want the opinions of the average joe or joette on the street I can ask them, and given the sources of information most have all you get from Facebook is what the news outlets say repeated back with a 'this made me feel sad/ happy' added at the end.
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Happiest Countries in the World proves Western Ideology Works
Zoraptor replied to BruceVC's topic in Way Off-Topic
7/10? Wouldn't award more than about 3/10 myself, and that only because he got some bites. It's a pure oby topic, just from the exact opposite direction. -
It is hopelessly defined because trolling is subjective and has variation in degree based on a large range of factors, principally based on how the recipient responds and whether it was even intended as trolling in the first place or is just labelled as such by the recipient. To illustrate, let's say that I think someone, let's call him Bob, posts stuff to get a negative reaction, you think someone, let's call him Ivan, posts stuff to get a negative reaction but neither of us thinks that both are trolls. And if we asked either they'd both say they aren't trolling. So are you right, or am I, or are neither of us? Are we going to go through some objective check list to determine whether your troll induced butthurt or my troll induced butthurt is objectively reasonable, or if either of us should be butthurt by both 'trolls'? Do we take the 'trolls' statements about their intent as gospel or do we assume they'd lie about being trolls, or indeed lie about not being trolls (the classic 'say something stupid, then claim to be trolling' defence of having said something stupid)? The only answer I can come up with is that none of those questions actually work to determine anything objectively. Base stuff on self identifying trolls and assume the trolls are being... honest and upfront- I think everyone can see the inherent problem in that proposition- or base stuff on what you personally think constitutes trolling, in which case it isn't objective either.
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Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition
Zoraptor replied to Tale's topic in Way Off-Topic
Heh. I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the RPGCodex*. You could have left it at usenet though. And you'll be pleased to know I am a fully fledged member of the august brotherhood of the 'Watch with a reasonable number of posts there. Really though, you're free pretty much completely to have any opinion you want at the Codex, so long as you can back it up, don't start crying about the big meanies being nasty and it isn't something contextually ridiculous like saying that CoD is the best game ever, on an RPG site. Plus, since it's been brought up, for a supposedly intolerant place there's a rather more varied selection of moderators and posters than in most other forums. People may tend to label it as a sexist, homophobic den of nazis, but then they'd have difficulty explaining the woman, the gay and the Jew moderating the place. *I do read them fairly regularly but I've never found a compelling reason to actually register or post. That isn't a figurative echo chamber. An echo chamber in that sense is where you say something and it is repeated back to you multiple times after slight delays. If you've got multiple voices (/views) that cannot happen, you say something and you get something different back. Probably something incoherent, if we were talking literally. In a more general sense all communities have 'soft' social control measures that are inherent because communities have a purpose, you won't tend to get big fps fans on a specialist RPG site, so the like minded tend to congregate in the same places anyway, and most people want to be liked. But that's a far cry from having supposedly fair and uncensored 'discussions' where you are obligated to take a particular position as that is the echo chamber as there is no chance to dissent at all without being silenced- and in some cases even insufficient enthusiasm for the party line is cause for being silenced. -
Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition
Zoraptor replied to Tale's topic in Way Off-Topic
Strangely enough, on sites which enforce a strict no-trolling policy, I haven't run into trolls. It's almost as if there's a connection between making internet forums ****-friendly and said forums being flooded with ****. Nah, you just end up with something Neogaf when you have those policies, where any dissent from the established consensus is labelled as trolling. Thus you get things like their GG 'discussion' thread which is pure circle jerk and where you can get banned for not being negative enough about GG. I'd take some genuine trolls over that DPRKesque- he- who- claps- least- enthusiastically- gets- hands- chopped- off attitude any day of the week, and hour of the day and any minute of the hour. Because zero tolerance for trolling almost always means zero tolerance for different opinions on any subject with any controversy associated with it. Unsurprisingly, that is exactly what the SJWs have shown right from the beginning with their censorious* attitude. *If they had a bit more education and class I'm sure someone would have broken out the old classic 'ceterum censeo Gamergate delendam esse'. -
Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition
Zoraptor replied to Tale's topic in Way Off-Topic
He almost certainly picked it up from Cleveland Mark Blakemore. If you don't know who Cleveland Mark Blakemore is I'm afraid there aren't enough minutes left in the life of the universe to adequately explain. PJ is basically doing a (pretty poor, though to be fair the full Blakemore experience wouldn't come close to passing moderation) impersonation of Cleve's posting style, in the reverse direction since the thought of Cleve as an SJW is not something that be comprehended by normal mortals.