Wrath of Dagon

There aren't any games going off the shelves, this is just industry fear mongering.

Only 100K on PC. Shame on you pirates. But yeah, VGChartz probably has to be taken with a grain of salt. Edit: I wonder if that counts on-line sales anyway.

When the economy is booming here, there are always labor shortages. Automation doesn't have anything to do with it, not until you can actually completely replace a human being, automation just creates different jobs.

Yes, it sounds like the proposal to privatize Social Security that Bush got beat down for.

In real terms the savings are mostly illusory. You still have the problem of people who are working having to support people who aren't. It doesn't solve the societal problem, only changes the balance sheets.

Nah, they have to be able to **** everything of the opposite sex in the universe. Pfft, if only it were that simple. They also have to be able to **** everything of the same sex. And lets not forget the inter-species stuff. I blame this on the influence of Kirk and Spock.. their "every week one of them gets a different alien / starfleet girl".. Spock did? I think in only one episode, when he had the mating madness.

I'm not sure, they certainly have no problem selling movies like Saw, in fact they put huge disgusting displays of decaying hands all over the store. Edit: Wal-mart won't carry outright pornography, you could argue that some of the explicit lyrics are actually pornographic, it can go way beyond swearing of the kind you get in movies and games. Edit2: Another thought just occurred to me. Even if the M rated games were completely banned (purely hypothetical, unless the Moral Majority is somehow resurrected and takes over the government) almost all the games Calax mentioned would easily qualify for a T rating with very minor changes. The main reason those games are M is to appeal to adolescents who want to think they're mature. Never did figure out why Halo is rated M.

Most stores already have a policy of not selling M rated games or R rated movies to minors, but they still carry them to sell to adults. It's very hard for me to believe Wal-mart would suddenly stop selling M-rated games even though they have no problem selling tobacco, alcohol, firearms, ammunition and R-rated and even unrated movies, all of which are illegal to sell to minors except the movies. Edit: Actually here it's illegal to sell alcohol to anyone under 21, not just minors, not sure if it's the same for tobacco and firearms.

You guys sound like a bunch of raving tea-partiers.

That was my point, retailers still sell tobacco and alcohol even though they're illegal to sell to minors. As far as AO games, most probably would be illegal to sell to minors, since it's illegal to sell any obscene material already, without any new laws. As I explained, most retailers won't carry obscene material, whether legal or not.

That makes no sense. All they have to do is check ID's to sell M rated games. We all know no retailer will touch tobacco or alcohol because they're illegal to sell to minors.

I'm not remembering this very well, but it sounds like you're missing an item. The only one I remember is there's the hound keeper or something like that in an alcove right next to the area where you killed Hanharr. Try to find his body if you haven't already. Also there may be a terminal you need to use next to the escape hatch. You could look at the walkthroughs on gamefaqs.com or may be someone who remembers better will post here.

So your argument is what? Children should be playing M rated games so that they can support production of M rated games for adults? It's not so much misrating as not descriptive enough and/or could use another rating or two, ala pg-13 (or whatever). That is, "Mature/M" titles "may contain more intense violence, blood and gore, sexual themes/content, use of alcohol/drugs, and frequent use of strong language" but on the box itself the descriptions seem stunted/not specific to the game itself, enough. Just my opinion tho. It's like how some R movies are "harder" R' than others, either in violence or sexual content (or both). There also seems to be a missing rating...at least according to wiki...you have Teen which "might be considered unsuitable for children under 12 years of age" and then M, (17+). Is there one in the middle I'm unaware of? Edit: sorry, that sounds confusing. I mean, is there one that might be more like "not for under 14 or 15?" Social mores these days (because of increasing easy access to 'net, movies on TV etc that makes such exposure more common) seem to be that a lot of parents may not mind their 16 year old see a lot of those R rated horror movies, for example, but would object to their 12-13 year old doing so. There's a big difference between 12 and 16/17, imo. Yes, I actually used to be of the same opinion. My feeling was ESRB (which is game industry controlled) refused to introduce a rating between T and M because they didn't want to stigmatize M rated games by making that category exclusively "hard" M. This way parents think "hey Halo is M rated, there's nothing really bad about it, M rated games must be OK for kids", which is what the industry secretely wanted all along. However, in the last few years the problem sort of "fixed" itself. Games have become so crude and violent you really wouldn't want to give a lower than M rating to most of them. The parents are still as clueless as ever though. AO rating means the game is obscene. Most retailers won't carry obscene material, although admittedly they push the edge on unrated DVD's, but that's another story.

There's a control panel (the escape hatch?) on the far left of the area I think which allows you to escape while opening the door to the Jedi. You don't open the door to the tunnels at the door itself.

Doesn't matter how interesting the character is. Bioware's primary business is peddling automated mannequins for virtual sex.

@ Tale By and from aren't really important here. It's the same First Amendment principle. And the standard in limiting exposure to speech would probably be a compelling government interest, which may not be that hard to show. Edit: No. The state has the "right to protect children" although its more a "responsibility to protect their citizens" but in this case, the law breaks fed constitution, so even if this was "Don't let the KKK hold a protest on a brooklyn school's playground" the freedom of speech would still have it be allowed (assuming proper permits were given etc). Just because you think something shouldn't be said, or is harming somebody by saying it, doesn't mean that it is censurable. This blatantly is the Cali legislature trying to parent the millions of children within their boundaries. IT IS NOT THE STATES JOB TO BE A PARENT IN PLACE OF THE ACTUAL PARENTS. It's not censorship to make something available for sale, but not to minors. And no, you probably couldn't have a KKK rally at a playground unless the kids were removed first. I don't see why they'd stop selling anything to adults if they were prohibited from selling it to children. Prohibiting the sale of porn to kids didn't exactly make it go away.

It's not necessarily a First Amendment case, because the state has the right to protect children from harm and they don't have the same free speech rights as adults. The reason I distinguished between the legitimate powers of the state and federal government is because you lumped everything under "government go away" rubric, which you happened to leave out when you quoted me.

Actually the City Elf origin still has too much filler combat. I was playing that and thinking "After all this time, could Bioware not come up with something other than clearing out room after room? Hopefully it's just because this is a tutorial" Silly me.

Can you give a specific example of ESRB misrating games? I see ESRB get a lot of crap, but IMO they do a pretty reasonable job. I'm not sure what you mean by distributors. It would be the retailer who's responsible for not selling the prohibited games to minors, there would be no other restrictions on distribution of games. As far as the law being too vague, that could be the main reason the law is overturned. Basically every retailer would have to play every game and come up with a list of games that are unsuitable for minors. Of course, they could just take the shortcut of not selling any M-rated games to minors, but I don't think that holds water legally.

OK, thanks a lot, I was kicking myself I missed the biggest part of the mod. Dinner, I think your question has to do with the Droid Factory being always available. It's wasn't meant to be, you have to unlock it by Failing all that, you can just set the flag using the console.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Josh was the one who insisted Caesar was pronounced the way it is.

Most organizations prefer to select who gets cut themselves, lowering everyone's pay only makes it more likely the most competent will leave for greener pastures, while the deadwood who can't get another job will hang around forever.

Ideally you should let the market determine exchange rates, and it will in the long run regardless. The funny thing about US policy is that the Chinese are able to keep their currency artificially low precisely because US can't control its own spending and keeps borrowing from abroad.

Their spending power comes from budget deficits, that's never a solution. Speaking of which, it's scary when the Russians have a more clear-headed understanding of global economics than our own government: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101021/bs_nm/us_g20

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