Mamoulian War

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/20...ne-solution.ars Read and discuss

Now, now, I have little bit rephrased your statement Which depicts the situation as good as your original quote

And this, is one of the examples, why piracy exist in a first place...

Seriously, this is ridiculous, where in the hell did I ever mentioned that it is OK to pirate??? Just because I do not agree with the whining of the industry which wants to strip off the real customer, who pays real money for their products, out of all their rights with ridiculous DRM schemes, does not means that It is OK to pirate! You people have to stop jumping into various overzealous conclusions... IT IS NOT OK TO PIRATE AND IT IS NOT OK TO KICK YOUR CUSTOMERS IN THE FACE USING PIRATES AS A SCAPEGOAT! If you are having biggest profits ever, then the piracy is for sure not as big problem as you try to lie about it...

Yes, yes, i've heard that analogy billion times... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/20...-box-office.ars meanwhile this shows how badly piracy damaged entertaining industry in 2010... So you just reply with a bunch of statistics on the success of movies. Which have a radically different revenue format from games. Good times. If you do not like my reply, try to reply to Walshingham, who said it better than I would ever be able... And my link was more pointing out the hypocrites in the industry who whine all the time at every ocassion, how piracy is driving them into situation that they can eat only once a week, while they are still making record revenues... And I would bet my ass that if we had exact statistics on revenue of Gaming Industry, which publishers are still trying to hide for whatever reason, we would also find that the gaming industry is in record numbers aswell...

Yes, yes, i've heard that analogy billion times... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/20...-box-office.ars meanwhile this shows how badly piracy damaged entertaining industry in 2010...

I'm not getting any version. I'm just anti-DRM and find the reasons for it rather lacking. I feel it actually hurts sales (stops people like me from even getting the game, it's the number one turn off), and if the pirates already have the game...stopping pirates with it is pretty false of a reason. AKA...there's no real reason for it except stupidity. except, that the DRM is nowadays primary used for stopping second-hand sales... Piracy is just a scapegoat for shareholders and lawmakers...

The NDA will be terminated next week? - J.E. Sawyer's tweet (Aug 5th, 2010) hope he will write a blog on this topic. It's February 2011 already, has anybody already talked to them?

This... Because US and EU developers sucks donkey ass at making good handheld games, and most of the japanese developers CBA to release their games outside Japan, does not mean that PSP is a failure or is running out of business... Blame is here definately not on Sony

Because reading these threads is always interesting, because it

I am one of the few people, who actually liked X-2, because despite the not so good storyline, the ATB in this game is IMO the best combat system from all of JRPGs i've ever played...

Dissidia 012 and Witcher 2 for sure, everything else depends on DRM and available platform.

I just got myself Gran Turismo 5 and Cataclysm... Still do not know, if I ever will have time to play Cataclysm in next few months... bah, at least GT5 is awesome. Money well spent!

Exactly. However they are punished way more than shoplifter, which they are. Which is partly why piracy has grown from something that poor students do into a subculture of its own. I guess because it is a more complicated situation than shoplifting. There is also a bit of a throw the book at them mentality because so few are getting caught. I suppose the idea is to make an example out of them in the hopes that others will stop. It seems to be fairly ineffective at this point. But I don't buy the whole subculture idea. People like free stuff, that is why they pirate. Acting like it is some sort of noble fight against the man is ridiculous. These are video games, pretending that EA or Ubisoft is some sort of evil tyrant is humorous. They are just doing business. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are a lot of guys who are downloading pirating EA games, only because they destroyed Origin, Bullfrog and Westwood... It's their way how to show their dislike of their business practices... And most of them feel like Robin Hood... We all know that it will most likely not hurt EA's bottomline, but in their view, it's a just cause...

Started to play Star Ocean: First Encounter on PSP, so far it's pretty fun game hopefully, it will last me few nights at the hotels during my business trips

Heh, that's a good one, not heard it for a long while Yo know, I am from central Europe, My country was at some point considered as 3rd world aswell, so I do know how it is running around here And yes I was long time ago when i was teenager a pirate... you know, there was no one selling here originals, so the only way how to get the game was getting it from pirates for aprox 5-10EUR... My first salary was worth of 100EUR/month (it's almost 15 years ago)... And i was still buying the games, but from pirates, because there was not a single shop who sold games here, and with THAT income, my bank would not allow me to get a Credit Card, so no chance of getting the game from abroad... most of the shops abroad did not ship any copyrighted material here anyway... I am ashamed of it? no... You know... I payed for the games, It's just the publishers problem that they did not get my money, because they did not offered the games in my territory at all...

And one very interesting link from one of the Indie studios, who participated on the Humble Indie Bundle (Wildfire Games)... One of the most realistic views, on what's happening, from inside the industry, which i have ever read... http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=13065

I am using Component Cable for my PS2 and the DVD output and game output is very nice... with the exception of Final Fantasy XII, which has some sort of bug, which actually downscales the video cutscenes compared to SCART output... have not find that kind of bug in any other game i own...

The publishing community is quite united. The Authors Guild sued Google, and got massive reparations for books they offered illegally online. And I suspect you'd be hard-pressed to find any game developer on the planet who loves piracy, because they just want to, like, have more peeps enjoy the product they've created even if they can't pay for it. Of course the publishers are quite united, because they live out of another people creative work publishers != authors... here is some prime example how a free to download thing actually makes more money, than signing in with a publisher... http://questioncopyright.org/sita-distribtion-numbers if you can't be arsed to read it here is the summary... EDIT: adding in one more link which is worth to see, (just in case that you have missed it in the article ) http://sitasingstheblues.com/license.html#total-compliance

Please don't do that again, I almost spilled my carecup full of tea over my notebokk

I think his point was more to the lines that in some places games are overpriced ridiculously as to eliminate purchasing them as an option entirely. Therefore pirating it via torrent or some Chinese store becomes more appealing than it would. And for them, definitely not a lost sale. Most likely the reality of the situation, but I suppose we must get righteously angry over it still (not our money in any event so ) Hm, wonder how come no one's mentioned that 'entitlement' buzzword yet. Yay at least 1 person who read the thread really understand what i was really talking about... Here a sweet and crunchy chocolate cookie for you My last post about this theme in this thread, no more hijacking from now on.

Yes, and that's the reason, when someone has last 50 EUR/USD in their hands they rather go buy some food and pirate the game, than buy the game and stay hungry for next two weeks... such are the priorities of life...

Yeah, no. Not anywhere near the scale that it exists on the PC at least. It is just too easy to pirate on the PC, whereas console piracy has more hoops to jump through. Not if you can buy chipped console right out of the box, even with 2 years guarantee... Which is easily possible in more countries, than you can imagine And what do you do when anti piracy updates are rolled out? Send it back for a update assuming one becomes available? Yes they do exactly that.. new update gets cracked usually within 1-5 days... and the price for remodding the console with newest update in eastern europe is from 1 to 15 EUR... and the most interesting thing is, that it is legal... it's wrong, but it happens... and i can say that around me is console piracy more widespread than PC piracy... And ofc there is one more thing... You can in the southeast europe and asia also to buy console games from some russians and chinese, who manufacture pressed games in very big numbers and sell them for 1-10 dollars, and you do not even need to mod your console... this is the reality of how easy is to use pirated console software... The piracy is only a marketing word, used by publishers to move as soon as possible gaming from product to service only and to destroy second hand market... if piracy was such big issue as their are whining about, every developer, their mothers and dogs would be producing games only for PS3... which was uncracked for very very long period of time... nothing else...

If an Eastern European gamer making, say, $400 a month, buys a $1000 PC, he will probably be doing so through a small loan paid over 2 years with an interest rate of at least 20%. Which means that he will be paying at first, some 50$ out of his monthly income in the first year. Now, it's not unreasonable to suppose that this gamer will spend $300 a month in various expenses, including rent, food, phone, gas, electricity, water and transportation. Now, how does this gamer play games on his $1000 PC? He pirates them. Now, I said Eastern European, but I could have said South American, Southeast Asian, or Southern European. These are huge markets and games simply aren't priced to be sold there at all. Finaly someone who gets the full picture...

Yeah, no. Not anywhere near the scale that it exists on the PC at least. It is just too easy to pirate on the PC, whereas console piracy has more hoops to jump through. Not if you can buy chipped console right out of the box, even with 2 years guarantee... Which is easily possible in more countries, than you can imagine