SonicMage117

That would be SWEET!

I recommend avoiding the horrid D&D movies, such as:https://youtu.be/3SnA2rv4ros Always find it strange whenever I talk to someone that says they like the D&D movies but didn't like the Mortal Kombat ones lol (basically the same thing in a different package).

To me it would be awesome to have all new characters but be able to go to an inn and run into say, a cameo of Minsc and Boo or go to a castle and run into Imoen or things like that. Just to add that level of detail for us geezers but still be fresh enough for a new aspect on a D&D game. I need me easter eggs like a pot o'gold!

In this little that you have wrote, there's so much that is wrong. Hmmm.. Where to begin. The fact that the majority of BG fans agree that BG2 is the better of the two proves that the sequel paranoia is just that - paranoia. Fallout 2 is better than Fallout 1, VTM: Bloodlines is better than VTM: Redemption, The Witcher 3 is far better than the first two, Kotor 2 is better than the first... the list goes on and on. So I don't think that is the issue. I think it's the fact that someone is working on this years later and they hate that fact. BUT... Let's be real here, if Baldurs Gate 3 was being made by it's original developers a couple years after BG2's release, nobody here would have a problem, I guarentee you nobody would be saying "Dur! There's no where for the franchise to go so why are they making this?" Instead they'd be jumping for joy. So that's a very important and valid scene variable to consider. Then there's also the fact that we don't know much about it but we already see whining about the name, about the possible content, about everything basically. All those points are what's pretty much what's led me to blame nostalgia. There's no valid reason to why we can't or shouldn't have a realized sequel, everyone here should be rejoicing. I mean, I get it that none of us aren't young anymore and it's just not the same because we aren't at that period of time but it doesn't make sense to say "We're not excited for this" or "Yeah, that seems like bad idea". It's not logical, so this is where protective instinct over a franchise would rather kill it/end the line rather than ressurect it and have more memories even if it's different? Hmmm.... Something is amiss with that mindset, the game is afoot. #SonicLogic

To this forum? Probably, I mean, most members here worship IE games because it's what they grew up with so my comments may ruffle some feathers - it takes maturity for them not get riled up ad contain tjeir passion for the product, I don't hold BG1+2 to sych a high regard for the obvious reasons. It doesn't mean I dislike or hate the games, again I bought the originals boxed ahd I bought the re-releases by Beamdog and people here tend to think I'm crazy because I've recommended the Beamdog versions over the originals even though you can play the Beamdog versions without the added content, weird huh? I also backed Deadfire, if it wasn't for IE games, I woukd have never known about or backed Deadfire. My all time favorite games are Sonic Spinball ahd PoE1. I'm a very strategically driven person and I like tje color blue - which both Sonic and Pillars 1 consist mainly of. Now... Off the forum, my outlook isn't so different or unique, maybe that's why birds of the same feather flock together on this forum, a community of the same mindset makes a strong one but a boring one and perhaps this isn't the place for me. Still, I know guests/non-members will appreciate my perspective even if some members don't so I'll stick around. Personally I don't see anything harmful with pointing out a games flaws, disecting it but I guess I can see how that could make someone mad if they are/were obsessed with it or something Anyway, thanks for respecting my opinion. I respect yours as well!

You do care, you just wrote me a letter. I'm blaming nostalgia because that is what exactly is to blame here and I'll continue to do so, so long as there's a reason. Curious, though, what, in your opinion, shoud I blame? I asked a valid question: "Why don't people want the game to he called BG3 but have no issue playimg other franchises which do the same thing and not complain?" FF7 did revolutionize alot, perhaps you never played it so your ignorance prevents you from having the knowledge bit FF7 revolutionized storytelling and cinematics in games as we know it. https://youtu.be/xsb0kSKegUM Now feel free to list me the games that FF7 "copied" because I doubt you played it but I'm willing to listen agd be proven wrong if you can give me specifics. I never said Baldurs Gate didn't create the genre but creating a genre doesn't mean it revolutionized the industry lol The genre is a very VERY unpopular one, it's niche, so nice it needed to die and get revived years later. And yeah, I'm a hater - makes total **** sense when I stuck up for Beamdog on the first page of this thread. I guess hate means you are happy for re-releases of games now, who knew that saying you were glad the game got brought to a new generation through another dev/pub meant you disliked the original? The internet is a wonderful place XD That was my point^ Glad someone else got it.

A mage who loves Sonic and blames nostalgia for all the modern gaming industry failures Modern industry failures? More like people being blinded by their nostalgia and not being able to admit that there are games as good as ot better than the ones they played growing up ir just because they can't move as good as they use to, blaming the devs and saying "They don't make em like they use to" but the internet lives in an opposite day, every day and there is always an excuse for everything. Kinda like how a degenerate will lie to themselves about something so silly like "80's > 90's" and "90's > 00's" depending on when they were born, something always has to be superior, eh? The nostalgia cult is here, after all, look at the age of everyone who claims IE games are the best (No offense to you, I'm getting up there in age myself hehe) but let's continue to pretend that masterpieces were in vastly superior in one decade than another because that makes sense and is logical /S However, you were right about the other part, I am a mage main who loves Sonic the hedgehog <3

Hmmm... You must be new here. Anyway, I did, what's the problem? What was wrong with what I said or do you simply not like it because you don't agree with it? You and a few others have stated this so you are not alone but the irony and hypocrisy in this statement lies in the fact that none of you complain about Tales Of games having no relation, or Final Fantasy, Elder Scrolls, Fallout or Ys. While some of those are Jrpg, the subject to comparison remains the same so I'd like someone to enlighten me how having no relation calls for the need to be called another name other than Baldurs Gate III or thereby fails to qualify it when everyone here plays other franchises that do this very thing and it's never bothered them before... Not that we know for sure it's going to be called BG3 anyway.

I disagree. The reason is for easy identification, just because it's different, doesn't mean it's not worthy of a title continuation. If that was the case, then probably around 60% of game sequels wouldn't have or need a title conituation. Continuing a legacy isn't defined by fan expectations or the demands thereof, nor should it ever be (as fans are never right). Just be great it isn't Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance 3 - although that would be a phenomenal project as well! On the other hand, if it's really bad, the legacy of Baldurs Gate would be tarnished forever. So that should tell us that the devs/pubes are confident in what they're doing - IF it's really going to be called BGIII (we won't know the exact name til later butt of cows). Now this I agree with and that's all the more reason why we don't need to be tied down to BG1+2 characters or story but we COULD have a parallel story in the same world at the same time that BG1 or 2 took place. Imagine that, in a 3D world with a third person perspective (non-isometric). That could be amazing and since there's so much source, it's not like it would be too hard to accomplish but I know that fans would whine over getting such an amazing thing anyway.

How is Google Project Stream?

I love BG, as well as just about every IE game, I grew up on them, I even supported all of the rereleases again by buying the Enhanced Editions. I can't deny that IE Games have a follwing but I also cannot deny that the following that BG is very small and niche for a reason. Thus, the death and rebirth of the genre was needed for that very reason, developers and publishers can now make D&D games better by harnessing the new tech we have today available for use. Do you agree? I mean the passion in such tiles now are much more visible which is only expanding the genre to fresh eyes by introducing the games in new ways. We also know that when BG3 comes out, many who have never heard of or played Baldurs Gate games before will buy it for that reason. For a long time I, like many others, thought BG2 was the best rpg ever made but then I started playing more games a few years ago, gave indies a try and a good try with open mind and the more I played them the more I saw the faults of our best old golden year rpg's. Something then just clicked, it all made sense to me and the more experience I achieved in real life within the means of familiarity with what rpg's went where and best achieved what, I came to a disappointment in myself that I could throw these new rpg's under the rug because I couldn't accept it or I hadn't played them. I found, I was indeed cheating myself. Now are you going to tell me that my personal expereince is "FAKE NEWS". It won't suddenly make it a false statement, nor will they disappear. I already got ya covered V But enough about my depressing sob story, I have high hopes for this, even higher than SCL. Let's hope it turns out good.

Why he not black?Because we already had a blaxk Spock that didn't work out well.. His name was Worf. Don't say I didn't warn you though lol If you can't stop yourself from watching sucking stuff, then it must be the good kind ;) Not really. Watching STD is a mix of masochism and the strange need to see what abject crap they come up with next. Every ST fan will still watch it though, just like every SW fan will watch every "bad" Disney SW film and complain about it wasting their lives

No, I fixed what you said for you by removing the "Fake News" you wrote, then I responded as if you were agreeing with me My point is that, the bias of "Baldurs Gate is the best (or one of the best) rpg's ever because there wasn't anything like it or because I played it when I was young and had a good time with it" doesn't validate the content quality of the product. I'm going to go deeper inside you guys for a moment here - hoping I don't offend anyone for saying the reality... There is nothing revolutionary about Baldurs Gate, it didn't revolutionize anything in the games industry. I mean, it did introduce alot of things that had never been done in an rpg but let's face it, Jrpg's were already doing all the good stuff better than IE games ever did. The linearity of the Jrpg pushed storytelling to a place where IE games never did, other genres like Arpg birthed Diablo which basically made combat in an isometric rpg fun and useful. In short, Games like FF7, Diablo and Witcher 3 revolutionized the industry while Baldurs Gate did not in any way. I love that Crpg genre is back now though, it's nice to see games that don't use the horrid D&D systems which were my main gripe with IE games back in our hay days. It's not that I didn't enjoy the games as much as anyone else, I just give credit where it's due. I'm hoping that BG3 will fix those mistakes that BG1&2 had with storytelling, combat, boring companions and please God... Please don't let us hear really bad voice acting with "memorable" lines like "You must gather your party before venturing forth". If they accomplish fixing these things, it can be great!

If you can't stop yourself from watching sucking stuff, then it must be the good kind ;)

Are you playing with a controller? Playing Arkham type games on Keyboard and Mouse sucks as wired keyboard and mouse always has that delay compared to a wireless controller that offers a lower latency output. Probably why developers put "Controller strongly recommended" at the beginning of platformers and action oriented games now days.

Yes, as we get older, sadly we get senile and brain activity starts to slow. We are no longer schoolastic sponges, so one might claim that the jealousy of youth is a valid way to live. Embrace the pain, my dear V. (Cyberpunk 2077 reference there in case you didn't catch it).

Amazon's new game "New World" is the retro rpg fans wet dream. Think NVN2 but as an mmo, done right with some Ultima Online ahd Guild Wars aspects. The massive world seems well built but we'll see. Although from what I've seen, I'm getting a online Witcher feel.

I'm really hoping not. There were so many issues with combat in the BG 1&2. Also, I really hope it's not related at all to BG 1+2. A smart thing for them to do would be to have an all new storyline and characaters, a smart plan for a BG4, see? Some references and easter eggs to BG 1+2 for older players like myself to get would be fine but it's time to make the game welcoming for the new gen of gamers as well. They deserve it for all the pointless crap we give them just because our IE games were so casual. And there it is... This is the stem of everything wrong with the IE games fanbase/community. It's this type of mentality that kills the industry and the credibility to creative process for modern games. It's why I'm glad that games like The Witcher 3 are being hailed as the better rpg, and people are excited about Cyberpunk 2077 - to destroy the stagnant nostalgic stunborness that is too cowardly to admit d Sonething new is better and give credit where it's due. You're the type of person who won't admit to the faults of BG 1+2 and the fact of the horrible mechanics and the writing that felt like it was written by a kid that didn't finish high school. So take off the nostalgic blinders for a second and lend an ear, heed my words! I know it's harder to enjoy games because as we get older, less things surprise us, we lose our imagination, we're less gullible too but it's time to change the oil daddy-o and use that ole noggin. Our eyes and ears are old, we don't have the eye hand coordination we use to, I get it but BG1&2 the best? Don't make me laugh. This silly talk will probably get you a few likes by members in the forum though

Dying Light is the perfect zombie rpg game. Playing it in tiny time frames til ny new goty (Lego DC Super Villains) comes out in 8 days. Which will entertain me til the big sale in 2 or 3 weeks.

BG:DODS is so good! (If you don't mind how the companions were written, that is). It really is authentic. I should really play EE again!

BG3 vs CP2077 would be the ultimate match-up!! That would be so exciting to see if they released on Steam on the same exact day lol

Perhaps it has nothing to do with being the first Pathfinder-based game. Look at ot this way, Crpg genre is still so niche, more than we care to admit it. There's really only one plausible explanation for Pathfinder remaining on the top sales.... Look at what else has come out around it, AC: Odyssey, which is above it because it just came out. Monster Hunter World which has been out for a lomg time but has a small discount, and such. Point being nothing big released on Steam except for one game, whilist when PoE1 and Deadfire both released, there were majy other things which stomped them. Looking at those small facts is enough to conclude the reason. If it had released late October or November, it wouldn't even make the top sellers because of big releases (excluding the big sale). I highly doubt though, that we'd ever see a Crpg released as #1 on Steam's top sellers. Even a f2p with some p2w package will outsell it. Right below Pathfinder in the top sellers in MapleStory 2 which is a f2p game (that's how I can say this). So sales may not be as successful as Top Sellers assumes us to believe.

"Assassin Creed games are bad" -Said no one ever Assassin's Creed games, what can we who actually played them say about them? Each AC game has been great and offered a totally different experience, it's nice to see how they've evolved over the years. The first one I had on my PS3, I remember bot really wanting to get it but the guy at Gamestop comvinced me to try it lol I loved the inclusion of The Ark Of The Covenant and the Persian ghosts. Very cool that someone would do enough research to put something like that, historically accurate yet nobody really hears about, into their game. Now they've moved on to Mythology and including rpg aspects, I think this brings a freshness into the franchise - it wasn't needed to be successful or make their newest game stand out but that tells you how smart Ubisoft is - one of the only devs still out there that takes "risks" without fear. I spoke for all of us, just then.

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That video is awesome Heathsunderer, thanks for sharing! In a way, the art kinda reminded me of this: Which is a good thing as I loved that game's art!!