Hassat Hunter

How nice. People get off the convo when an easy to abuse flaw is exposed in their favorite stuff (being Direct Download)... I doubt I will be the only one who thinks of it... and then how does that help Devs, eh? Will they start putting fingerprint (still just visit) or irisscaners (same, visit once) for the games. Ah, the visiting once can be get around if you have to scan every single startup... Hmmm...

Well, with the disks you need to look for a crack atleast...possibly infected with virus and spyware....maybe even a large effort to find one on day of release... With DD you don't have to. Instead of risking your PC's safety the devs themselves make it work for you... instead of having to wait a few days/weeks before a programmer made a program you can legally do it... DEV SUPPORTED! And since when is legally downlaoding a DD copy "Piracy"...

Not noticed at all " Any chance for a new forum... or... EDIT: What the hell...linked to the wrong top 10 thread :">

Confirmed or guess... If confirmed, by whom, Feargus?

*Hopes for a replacement forum with the actual REAL name of the game*

If a game has no publisher after such a long time probably something is wrong. Ofcourse there IS still the savior of Valve and Steam, and the "only need to sell 75K (instead of 2M) copies to make profit" so we might actually see it then " EDIT: Project Georgia A.K.A the SEGA title A.K.A. PG

Yes. Because they also got $3 per copy then just like the other devs that sell in retail. But if they catch $40 of each I would expect a reduction, yes... Besides that if their own stake is SO small in the price they COULDN'T even drop the price even if they wanted to I know you dislike the numbers he presented but where did he lie? Couldn't you just posted all and then bolded this part. I have no idea of which post you got this and where exactly in that post and not going to search for it now. So I cannot tell you exactly what I meant to say it in that context (which is not shown now) Whee. But DD was supposed to go around that no? DD gives all cash to devs since they avoid publishers. They do not make any cash though since it goes to publishers! SURE! That was my own buy games time. I have no idea how far away it is for you, but since you live in the states and that has everything nearby I would not expect it would be as far as you mentioned though... Yeah. As long as it is the same price as in Retail DD is not for me indeed... Yup. Absolutely no profit for us costumers. And I didn't say DD prices are +10%, just pointing out for many popular games they could easily up the price and there would still be silly people who pay it... Guess there really is a language barrier if you TOTALLY misread the entire text there... Let's take a Dev. Let's call them SHINY. They produce several original games. Problem is barely anybody bought them. Then SHINY makes crap game "Enter the Matrix". Despite being unoriginal and crap it sold and gave loads of $. After that SHINY only continued to make crap games because those made the cash. You can make all the original games you wan't; but if nobody buys it it doesn't work. And how many other devs on DD would you think follow SHINY's example after tasting the pure cash that can be made by the crap people want? And how many original games will you see coming past then? Indeed. But if I get additional goodiees with that retail copy I sure as hell get that one... Yes. That can. But will they? And if they can be financially dependable with 90% less sales with a 33% price reduction WHY don't all devs grab for this chicken with the golden eggs? Are the eggs maybe not as gold as they look, but mere (enter the name of that fake-gold here) and there-fore the devs hold back??? Personnally IF DD becames big business I probably find a few friends who want the same game, then spread the cost between the amount of people who wan't the game. We then buy it and DL it all for ourselves with that same "copy". If the devs don't give me the price-redux I will just take it... and when they make it as easy as people make it sound I think I will gonna enjoy it alot more than retail time! Let the progress begin!!!

It wouldn't surprise me if this was all one big coverup " But if PG get's info end this year PNJ should get some too within that time, no?

'Xcept if you are called Dark_Raven ofcourse "

Actually more "Diablo in mythological world"... Just so the guys here know what they are up to...

Deer also like to get drunk... always funny to see newsreports of drunk deer sightings in Scandinavia

Take a look here Look here if you have a slower connection...check under Recon- Scale and Strategy Also on the second link site there are alot of additional screenshots of SupCom...

Doubt it...uses Source... And Source even runs on my P IV 1.7 with GeForce 2GTS in 1024x768

@ Gromnir: Sure; if DD worked like the Pro-DD'ers claim then I have nothing against it. If it really reduces the amount of copies devs need to sell with 90% with a 33% reduction to us people; sure; I will help them out. But now I do not like the feeling of being ****ed by those devs. They nicely claim that in order to make profit they need to sell like between 75K and 100K of games with a cost of $50 (calculation to this number from McCarthy's interview can be seen before...). If that is so and they can reduce the amount needed with 90% with a 33% why don't they??? It is all nice and fun to claim how evil those producers are and claim how they are going to be the death of us and how DD profits both us and them... but it does NOT profit US. If they do claim that stuff, yet not deliver; I am certainly NOT willing to help. To bad for them... I probably go way to far seeing as this is only the BS of one Dev... A TROIKA one to boot but the fact J.E. does back him up on his assessements make me fear that this might be a general thing among devs. Too bad only OE devs hang around here; I would love to know how other devs of small companies would look toward the statement of Mr. McCarthy and the points made in this thread... And my main point is not that I want the box and manual. I want the most worth of my money. Currently that is with the retail version because it contains that stuff (= added value) for the same price... Not really. Unless you think 15 min back and forth including browsing and buying is a "longer time". I do have a fixed cost, but the DL-speed is not that good for games. If I wanted to do that I have to get a faster connection, and how often I would really use it to buy my games online? The rest of the times it is just additional expense of something that I don't use... And I don't trust DL'ing when not around... I have had plenty of times something then happens that then corrupts the save (thus download again) or that you get to click something to proceed and that thus sits there along time before you actually start or continue on Too late. OE already had one, and another one is coming up. Their own game is also coming up (PNJ)... And thus they will never make DD big because it has absolute no profit (financially) whatsoever above getting it in the stores... and does it surprise us a million seller sells good anywhere where it comes? Hell, Oblivion probably got alot of online DL's even if it was retail price +10% You can blame your favorite "power of da people" for this. If they mass bought a good game like MDK instead of all jumped on the crap titles mentioned guess what higher variety we would see? You say the masses influence prices and game-stock, but due to a large amount of people buying Fifa 57 and NFS 32 and The Sims7 and Doom 5 we are stuck to these type of games... IF there is DD why would the people suddenly change and buy different... more intelligent? So; give 'em the account... hell, don't even need to sell your box and disk and manual... keep 'em and sell your account on Ebay... can give you that cash too (hey, maybe you can even sell your digital too then ) Don't know, don't care...since I can DL RO for free I really not gonna pay for it... whatever extra stuff they pack into it. And stupidity is inside people. Producers force upon us crap like Enter the Matrix because it sells... if we improve they improve... Not a DD is going to fix that...

But PNJ is/was a console-exclusive " Edit; edited...

Nope...only showing NWN2. No word also on PNJ from Feargus, even if he mentions PG (the SEGA one) Bad Bad Omen

According to Sawyer and McCarty $10,- is way too small a thought... they even save that on not having a retailer that sells the game remember... But that happens currently too. It is called Indie-games . And the devs who show they can usually are allowed to proceed (Will Wright, Peter Molyneux (who showed that he really screws up himself with Lionhead), Chris Taylor etc.) And on the "just buy it when it is cheaper" I think price-drops are quicker to be seen in the offline-market than the online one. Because if a game sells bad and they have to use that precious space to show another game price-drops will happen quick. There is no such issue with DD'ing, is there? Some games (depending on certain things) already drop price after 1/2 a month, won't see that happen in an online store. Also if there is only one supplier (being the dev) bye bye the chance that you visit a store of 8 and then find that in that one store it is no longer $50 but $20... You love to hammer onto me with "get economical lessons if you wan't to know about the industry". WHY will you not accept a printed manual and disk IS actual added value. Does a disk press himself? Does a manual press himself? Nope. And since it took time, labor and material it counts as added value. Added value without the actual product becoming more expensive too. Actually making it cheaper. $50 - (nothing; since all on disk... actually even + if you wan't the same) VS $50 - $4 (for the making of booklet, disk and box/shipping). See what I prefer? I rather have my $50 spend with all the goods (manual/disk) instead of paying more to get those goods... But that is also the current way, is it not? Ofcourse those art-making guys do not earn even something NEAR what the big folks get, but they do exist... Hmmmm, movies, eh... must be me, but I rather like big Hollywood stuff than that French made stuff... So, tell, what prevents you from placing your HL2 disk with manual and box online on Ebay? And you can DL it for free with a $20,- UT2K4...

I knew the missing of the sidebar was a big bug (pssst... it is Q&A)

Not true. I have some games in my collection that are second-hand and shipped in from the US just because they didn't sell it over here... You can fetch cash by selling your games again if you bought it in the shop; not possible with a DL That is what I mean with MOD yes; a free 3rd party made conversion for when you actually posses the game in subject. WHY should one pay $30 for just Red Orchestra? If you buy UT2K4 (being cheaper than $30 at the moment) you can downlaod RO for free and have the FULL UT2K4 to play with too... CS:S was also not shipped free with HL2. It was included in the Gold Package (+$) though, and sold seperate for the sellers of normal editions.... same with DoD:Source... Do I REALLY have to tell the Darwinia story yet again? And if it is not that effective why McCarthy's glorious numbers, eh? A bicycle doesn't use gas. A CD within the $50 not costs an additional $2. Same with the (aforementioned) ink and paper... Also net connection costs money. And it takes up alot more time then shopping etc. And I would rather I get additional money " I cannot see the advantage... a simple -$10 and I would probably be a solely DD-costumer...

Aha...missed that part :">

Fixed! Wasn't it for the fact booth-babes are nearly banned this year. Politicans drank more Hot Coffee than is good for them... Especially seeing there *should* be 2 other Obsidian Games (PNJ/PG)

How can 10% of 1000 be 200?

Oh my! A C&C thread about C&C

For some strange reason, a total LS-T3 get's a total darkside background... fades away fast but it will return... usually when switching from a DS'er to T3. Always happens, 1.0, 1.0A, 1.0B, PC and X-Box... no need to worry 'bout it... Pic

http://www.frappr.com/obsidianentertainmentforums Search for "Battlewookiee" And the lag with smoke in the Kotors is because Kotor-smoke is CPU dependant and totally ignores the GPU... but the CPU (how fast it is) is not up for this calacalation task... Other games do it way better and make it GPU-dependant...