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It will be fun... for the time it lasts. It will never reach the revolutionary value of the kotor's, however Im loving the effects and game engine, so I guess im waiting for its arrival aswell. Id rather see a KOTOR 3 everyday on the upcoming game list though. TFU will surely be more revolutionary by its game/engine mechanics alone though There's nothing revolutionary about Kotors apart from Kotor 2's plot is quite revolutionary in SW setting Uhh, but that's it Engine was nothing but modified version of NWN engine It didn't feature physics etc. Plot in K1 was your random collection of SW lore Gameplay was dumped down version of over 20 years old system There was NOTHING revolutionary about Kotor

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' WAT Oh, and that 40 paeges should be more like 1000 pages remembering this is Part 24

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I haven't played CoH but doesn't you command small task force in it against enemies instead of your typical RTS gameplay?

I haven't no. I doubt that I'll be as excited as you as I wasn't too awed by the "philosophy" of MGS1 and have heard that 2 is worse, so I'm kinda awaiting a bull**** overload so that I can concentrate on the gameplay and the narrative, which is incidentially the high-points of MGS1 Wait what, MGS1 had philosophy? No, only MGS2 of these is only philosophical work. Maybe first one throwed some typical japanese quasiphilosophy but no, it wasn't philosophical work per se. Tale, can you tell

Not if we're talking basic functionality and games that are out (I've plenty of love for DoW2). Disagree, it has best RTS gameplay mechanics (with actually giving importance to moral, cover etc.) and great factions to play with That is unless latest expansion pack screwed it

Moatiallita, I take you haven't played MGS2 then So, uhh, reviews MGS1 -> MGS3 -> MGS2 Note that qualitywise these are nigh-identical so the little things make up for this order MGS1: It has the best story and atmosphere. The base of MGS gameplay was laid here and it hasn't considerably changed after this title. Great gameplay (like in them all) and (for psone) good graphics and atmosphere. The story makes it my favourite. Great cast of characters too. From bosses Psycho Mantis is unforgetable, same with The Raven, Sniper Wolf, Ninja etc. And in any way you viewit fist fight with Liquid Sanke on top of Metal Gear was badass. That and it has nostalgic value like no other game for me minus Red Alert 2 MGS 2: Without doubt it was most anticipated PS2 title. It hones and smoothens the few gameplay falws original had and adds one big improvement - you can aim from first person with other guns in addition to sniper rifle. Yay! Like its predecessor it is defined by great gameplay, great characters and writing. However MGS2 is also most flawed of the bunch - it has many ridiculously long cutscenes. And I mean really, really long cutscenes. And instead of Mr Badass himself Solid Snake we get to play as sissy prettyboy Raiden for most of the game (apart from Tanker Episode in the beginning of game). Though he didn't annoy me half as much he did some other people. Boss fights weren't as good as in MGS1 (or in MGS3) but boss characters themselves were awesome. I share Tale's view that MGS2 has best Big Bad Evil Guy. MGS2 for its flaws is still most intriguing and unique game of the bunch. In fact MGS2 is one of a kind and when arguing are games art or not MGS2 is one of the best weapons for the "yes it is art" faction. Like I said before it is twenty years ahead its time in some ways. Since I can't sum it up on my own: I guess bolded parts might be reason why I like it so much Anyway, enough on MGS2 MGS3: As a game MGS3 is without doubt best of the series. It's gameplay is best, it has a lot better pacing, badass Snake returns (well, sorta) as main character and it has fantastic 60's atmosphere all over it. If you simply want awesome game get MGS3, then other two. If you want something unlike any other game get MGS2, then other two. If you want to be cool get MGS1, then the other two

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Oh yeah, ****ing Raiden ...only reason why MGS3 and MGS1 kicks it ass But MGS2 must be experienced for sheer mind**** it starts to unleash further the game progresses And I'm not talking about "oh **** I didn't saw this one coming" or "wtf is this rapid montage **** going on my screen", it goes way to the bonker land. WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THIS GAME DO YOU SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE WANTING TO KILL SOMEONE DO YOU EXIST WHAT IS REALITY WHY DO YOU PLAY GAMEZ WAT DO Y00 WANT It is game version of Neon Genesis Evangelion or Serial Experiments Lain, perhaps more the latter (though it lacks mechs). ...needless to say with my elementary school english (or when did MGS2 initially come out anyway, 2001?) it was so confusing only reason I continued to play was that I got that badass sword to slice people with around that part of game

Lack of love in this forum is disturbing Go get copy of MGS2 - it is awesome game that gets so postmodern one can't help but think it is twenty years ahead its time if games are considered as artform Seriously, it is utter mind****

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ITT Northern Europeans bitch about EU and Southern + Eastern Europeans support it

But F3 looks horrible anyway Crappy art direction, crappy engine and crappy surroundings

And germans

Concept arts in general are quite great tbh Everything else blows

Tale hit the nail there Can't resist temptation however

Actually, it was a period of unprecedented advancement in the region, not seen since the fall of the Roman Empire... Of course, it eventually came down to petty plotting and backstabbing, and things declined. And then... the Empi... er... Christians Struck Back! Don't make mistake I wouldn't know about this. History has always been no.1 interest as far as sciences go. I remember making huge (15 pages when it had to be 3) presentation on history of racism and discrimination in case of Reconquista. (Then I got only average grades because "it was too deep for secondary school, students can't understand that. If you were in High School this would be straight 10". After that I haven't really, really dug in schoolwork ever again. The one time I have will to work hard and then it is too good? Oh **** it all) If I had to choose where to live in Middle Ages I would've propably chosen Moor Iberia without second thought. Or maybe some other highly cultured region in arabian empire. But being a moor would've been number one choice However nowadays it is often exaggarated how moors were sooooo gooood and civilized and nice etc. that people forget they did nasty stuff too for their minorities among other things. They weren't that much better in this regard though still culturally far above "europeans" Why? Religion is just like any other social tool. You think TV or the Internets are actually opening your mind? Hominids killed their peers long before they had firearms. It's just a scapegoat. And, as Wals cleverly pointed out, we're just playing into the hands of the fundies by centering on Islam, instead of those pulling its strings. No, but religion can and does work as motive for deeds just as well greed or anything such. It is rare but not nonexistant I think Dawkins has written on this, how religious people often hide behind "it's not the religion, it's the nasty people!" argument and then decide not to bat an eyelash for morally ambigious and dangerous aspects of religion that can on their own work as motivator for ill deeds.

I'd be very surprised if you were qualified to discuss that subject on equal terms with Pid and me. ooh, wikipedia had some actual information!

...but that's opposite of cool Me, this day is one filled with lazy, meaningless summer dreams and nothing worthy of notice happening edit: lol hivemind

That sucks (unless you wanted it of course)

christ, you've been lurking in here since 2004 without ever registering? That is kinda scary

You're from Spain or what? There were pogroms and such in Moor era too. They weren't as numerous or often as in christian western europe (it should be noted that slavic people had good relationships with jews so it was more of a western-southern-european thing than christial thing) but they did exist. In other parts of muslim world Middle Ages contain time periods when christians and jews were persecuted just like in western world. Of course it's not the religion that breeds the violence, it's the people who use it to their own ends is old, valid argument But taking away religion's significance in equation is wrong. Islam has - just like Christianity - give birth to violence by itself. Not to say it is main reason but saying it is never ever reason is ludicruous too

Muslim tolerance in Iberian peninsula is often vastly exaggarated however