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As a beta player I would like to nominate this statement as the understatement of the year.

Things that take so many steps and depend on reactions by a certain person never work.

For the life of me I couldn't remember Cernd from Baldur's Gate 2.

Yeah but it adds some prenatalia to it.

Dear Uncle Monty, I have acquired a kitten. He has been named Binky. He is extremely violent, and keeps trying to kill my feet. Yet I cannot help but be endeared by this violence. Is this because video games have desensitized me to violence? Am I going to commit school shootings? Sincerely yours, Andrew de Weerd

Heitinga's second yellow was no foul. Also, I called ONE person biased who obviously is, and I never claimed I wasn't biased. But at least I'm objective enough to admit that my team played a bad match made worse by terrible refereeing. The same happened to Spain, however, and some seem to think it didn't.

So the debate is whether or not Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson is a better man? I thought the debate should be whether or not Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson should be dumped into the gulf to close the BP leak with.

Wow, defending his own. Next thing you know, FIFA will do the same thing. What a shock! As for everyone agreeing, I don't know what thread you've been reading. This thread is more divided than a presidential debate. EDIT: And saying the Spanish are innocent is a terrible, terrible lie. We all saw Iniesta kicking van Bommel when he was already down, he deserved red as much as Nigel de Jong did. Neither team deserved this title. It was a horrendous match not fit to have been in a world cup, let alone be a final.

There you go again with the complete exaggeration. I've already conceded that de Jong was a moron when he did that ninja kick thing and should have gotten red, but all other fouls were minor and the Spanish actually made worse ones throughout the match with that SINGLE exception (and perhaps Van Bommel's stretched leg tackle). And the one red card that was given had NO reason whatsoever. The Spanish, however, only got carded for a tenth of the fouls they committed (Puyol was a walking red card waiting to happen that kicked everyone who came near the Spanish goal on his side in the upper legs nowhere near the ball) and most of the Dutch yellows were completely undeserved. EDIT: Actually, what was that even aimed at? Not strictly enforce a rule? I talked about not giving a corner (making a mistake has nothing to do with enforcing rules) and David Villa being offside and being CAUGHT every time, meaning he WAS enforcing the rules. The point you were making wasn't even remotely related to anything I said.

Dear TrueNeutral: Kind regards, Xabi Alonso You're so late, someone else already wrote the answer to your post before you even posted it. Okay, fine, there was no offside, I must have misjudged it or been influenced by the dutch commentator who claimed there was an offside, but that last statement is still not true. Ungiven corner. Speaking of offsides, what was up with Villa? The man was chronically offside for the entire time he was on the field. I'll gladly concede that Spain probably would have gotten a whole bunch of goals in if not for him ruining EVERY SINGLE attempt on the Dutch goal by his teammates in the first half of the game.

Cheers to Diego Forlan! Well deserved! Despite my dislike of how his team advanced, Diego Forlan was simply the best player this tournament. Still hate that squid, though, so I'mma plug my own artwork again.

Casillas was fantastic, as was Stekelenburg though. Loss aside, Stekelenburg is a worthy successor to Edwin van der Sar, which is the biggest compliment I think a goalkeeper can receive.

I saw the umpteenth example of why the rule-framework of football no longer works, like I said after Su

Am I exagerating? The Netherlands had twice as many cards and about 50%(9) more fouls than Spain. I don't know about you but that is a very large difference in fouls. While I wouldn't say Spain was peaceful I think they only did as much as was needed to keep the Netherlands from getting to cripple every last one of them. That's only because major fouls by the Spanish on players like Sneijder that should have gotten cards didn't. Apparently the ref thought he was hit by a bird or something. And let's not forget undeserved yellows (Iniesta will probably win some swimming competitions with the way takes a dive) when the Netherlands took the ball in fair duels, and yellows for disagreeing with the ref (Matthijsen). Where's the violence in that? Statistics aside, anyone who actually watched the match will know that you are exaggerating.

It should have been red. Again an example of the ref not doing his job. Where is video playback support for a sport that DESPERATELY needs it.

Webb bothered me throughout most of the game because even in the extra time I felt like he had never given the match time to start. His whistle was only a little less constant than the vuvuzela's.

J.E. Sawyer is completely correct. It was offside before the goal, but it wasn't called. Hence, the ref's not doing their job. And if you think Holland was that violent you are clearly biased, both teams were kicking each other more than they were kicking the ball. Every time Robben or Sneider got the ball they were remorselesly kicked down. This is the first game I've ever seen where Robben was on the ground for actually being kicked every time. In fact, your exaggeration is so great I think you're deliberately trolling here.

It seems the only way Holland can lose is by the arbiters not doing their job.

We've seen them win before. *troll troll*

Spain's cans of whoopass that consist out of the dutch tactic of total football, you mean?

No, he got the finals wrong in the 2008 European Championship, and also Germany vs Croatia the same year during the group stage. That's two matches out of the thirteen he has predicted beforehand wrong, giving him a success rate of about 84.6%. He got the only other final he ever did wrong, so the amount of finals he's gotten right is 0%, and this is still the only game he has ever done without Germany so his non-Germany record of predictions is 0%. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Octopus

You type 418 characters per minute You have 75 correct words and you have 1 wrong words Interestingly, I have quite a few more characters than you but less words.

I hit the proper ones with my left hand and the wrong ones with my right hand. Tjem ypi get semtemces ;ole tjos.

How about we compromise on spoiled psychopath?