GhostofAnakin

But atleast Mass Effect won't have freaking elves or stupid little magic and dragons.

I think you just don't like me because I'm 1/4 Asian.

I'm a troll? Wow if I qualified for a troll then so does 99% of the people on this forum, including most of the moderators. "

Did you read the article from gamespot that I linked in that Mass Effect thread? It sounded like they're going to have sorta cybernetic implant-type ability, which I assume will provide the "magic" ability.

It's because Atari moved the NWN2 forums over to the BioWare forums. So even though Obsidian currently has a game in development we could talk about, it's not here.

The one I'm most intrigued by, for some reason.

Really? Damn maybe I'll pick them up. Or are they not available in Canada?

Isn't Gothic a 1st person view? I know I'm limiting myself, but I can't get into FPRPGs. I had to play pretty much all of Vampires in 3rd person view.

Am I the only one to see the irony in that post? :D

I never said I admired the TSL story. I said that the Kreia thing is FEASIBLE when a)variations of that Sith power have been seen (perhaps not to that extent) by the likes of Palpatine and b)since the SW universe already has some powers that at first glance might be considered "out there". I'm just arguing against people who say the power Kreia uses is "ridiculous" and "unbelievable".

Cool, you ignored my hypothetical question. I figured you would. You also ignored my point about the "power of the Star Forge" being just as "ridiculous" as Kreia's, you ignored that too. Like I said, you hate K2 and love K1 so everything in K2 either sucks or doesn't make sense, and everything in K1 is awesome and perfectly reasonable. You might as well quote this paragraph and paste it whenever you post, since this pretty much sums it up. Also, don't attribute arguements others have made and respond to them towards me. I didn't mention Bastila, someone else did, so I have no clue how that has ANYTHING to do with what I said. You constantly try to make it sound like I'm against K1 when in fact I was pointing out ONE thing and ONE thing only: the legitimacy of what Kreia did. I brought up the Star Forge for ONE reason and ONE reason only: because you turn a blind eye to everything K1.

Seriously? If anything, K1 was more difficult (relatively speaking of course. both were quite easy).

Triple H called. He wants you to stop ripping off his catchphrase.

btw for Mothman, the Star Forge's ability to create massive fleets and give Malak power was just as "ridiculous" as Kreia being able to hide her presence from the Jedi Masters. Neither have any previous examples in the Star Wars universe (unless you really want to stretch it) and thus both were introduced by a game developer because they felt it would make their game that much better. But you won't admit that since you love K1 and hate K2. Therefore to you K1 ideas=great and plausible ideas, K2 ideas=crappy and ridiculous ideas.

If KOTOR had the added feature of open exploration like BG did, I'd never stop playing that game.

It's funny how people can easily accept that Palpatine can mask his Force alignment from some of the greatest Jedi Masters ever, but can't fathom that a Sith Lord can take it a step further and mask not only their presence but their physical being too. This is fantasy, people. Maybe Obsidian expanded on Palpatine's ability to make Kreia appear powerful. How is that not "realistic" in a universe where laser swords and talking carpets are real? Sometimes I think people just bitch about how "unrealistic" things are because they disliked TSL, rather than because it truly is unrealistic. Hypothetical question: If GL had Sidious do this in the movie, would you still say "OMG that's so unrealistic" or would you accept it as a power that Sith Lords were capable of?

As pixie said, I didn't say invisible in the "oooohhh you can't see me cos I'm a ghost!!!". He hid his true self from the Jedi, thus making his Sith origins "invisible" to them. It's the same as what Kreia did. She used the Sith teachings to cloud people's perceptions so it's as if she was actually "invisible" to them even though she's standing right in front of them. Just the same way Palpatine could ooze evil but not be detected by the Jedi Council. edit: sorry for the harshness. But that happens when you anally rape what I was saying into something I didn't say.

Obviously you can compare them. What makes your TotJ more "correct" than what we saw and is acknowledged in KOTOR2? Even if you think of it logically, considering that the Sith seemed to be MORE powerful back in those days, I can't see how the "new" Sith were the ones that learned how to make themselves invisible while the powerful Sith like Marka Ragnos, Exar Kun, etc. didn't have a clue how to do that.

That's because he wanted them to. Kreia didn't. Palpatine needed them to see him in order to carry out his ruse as a legitimate Senator. Being seen was a big part of his deception. Kreia could mask both her presence AND her physical body because she didn't need to be seen in those instances. Being invisible was a big part of her deception. In both cases they had the ability to "hide" as much of themselves as they wanted.

It's not incorrect at all. He was a Sith the entire time he was a senator, unless you want to argue that he only became a Sith and had access to the Dark Side AFTER he revealed himself in Episode III. The fact that he was able to mask his DS presence in the very heart of the Jedi Order shows how Sith can mask their presence.

Actually, not really. That is a known Sith ability. Unless you think Palpatine being able to walk around a nest of Jedi is impossible too. Oh wait, he does that.

Yeah! i have played kotor 1...but it was rare that i was missing my shot when it was the time for a combat <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then either a)your character was terrible in TSL or b)you just had worse "luck" when it came to dice rolling.

What do you mean by that?

I like to be able to just....adventure....without it having to do with the main story too much. I like towns and a lot of NPCs to interact with, something that I felt the difference between the BG series and the IWD series.

I think I'm actually looking forward to this game more than Dragon Age. [/random useless comment]