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Well i think i had a constructive argument atleast :">

Intresting stuff, it proves me wrong. very reliable sorse, he wront the selfish gene, i reccomend that book. Is science a religion

Different religions have differnt points, sciencem toaism, Christianity, and buddism. Some say evolution is the cretion of us, some say god is, there are to many, some say big bang some say god created in so many days, some even say you can never know, so go with what works. I would say religion is for wisdom and knowledge, but is their logic based on a false premice?

I assumed alot of eastern religions did not worship, but i did not want to speak beyond my knowledge. Thats intresting.

If scientist don't beleive the laws are going to be there tomarrow what is the point of science?

Prove it! EX1The sunds goes up because of tibetan Monks pray everymorning so it will. prove me wrong. EX2God makes the sun come up

So you are saying ALL relgions worshipp?

I totally agree that Science is a religion. Its just not an organized religion and its beliefs are based on facts instead of stories. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes! its governed by man.

Ok everything is based on a first assumption. Sceinces 1st assumption is "the laws that govern the universe today , going to be here tomarrow" if you beleive in that you believe in science. that is its first assumption. its a beleif, a religion, that people will follow.

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Do you guys see it yet? i will explain it in other words if you want , now that i said it once you atleast have an idea.

faith [fayth] (plural faiths) noun 1. belief or trust: belief in, devotion to, or trust in somebody or something, especially without logical proof 2. religion religion or religious group: a system of religious belief, or the group of people who adhere to it 3. religion trust in God: belief in and devotion to God Her faith is unwavering. 4. set of beliefs: a strongly held set of beliefs or principles people of different political faiths 5. loyalty: allegiance or loyalty to somebody or something Microsoft

Yes, that was particularly appalling, even for medieval Europe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sad what happened to most of the kids... Slavery, death...

Everything is based on a fisrt assumption, EVEN science.

All science is is statistics, if you can beleive this ball wqill droip everytime then you beleiven in, if you beleiven the laws will be here tomarrow you beleiven in, thats all. i persoanlly think its the purest form.

Prove its not. some people say the sun goes up and down because of the earths rotation, some say god, and the tibetan monks say its because they pray everyday.

Science is a religion too people.

... Anyway, Since the war is done with. Do any people think ANYTHING constructive will come out of it? the Iraqi Prime Minister has failed to fill his cabinet as he swears in, not good but atleast its legit. It seems as though its a STEP in the right direction. sure i know its not going to be completely democratic(neither is US, or MANY other countries), its probably going to be a olagarchi during its first stages and works its way up. Thats all humans as a society do generally, take tiny steps, unless its a bloody revolution and start communism and it ends up to be like a jail (Lenin's version of Communism). So iraq, small step backwards or forward progress?

I like the quotes you two "I have to quote a Propaghandi song on this, "knoledge tends to democratize". " "We are a funny species .. so preoccupied with ourselves that we forgot ourselves .. ironic really .." I'm going to have to memorize these.

There is nothing funny about detroit losing 1,900 teachers. its a tragedy, which only makes there future harder. The government is not sending the money detroit needs for its education system.

Tak, you have some valid points but saying that private schools are better is subjective. My school focused alot on religion which i beleive was not neccessary, also the sport program was laughable, diversity is rare. the good and bad was equal in my situation, where i come from they have some of the best teachers in the US. It just natters if you want "somthing else" in my opinion, such as religion, or special academic programs that some private school might have.

I went to a several schools, the differnces in my case were slim. there was less cultural and ethnic diversity in private schools, unfortunately. The private school expreience was Lutheran, im not religious so... if religion works for you, then you will benefit, i didn't. I guess the biggest differences are going to be in the low income areas. but at the young ages where they aren't changed to much by their surroundings yet its not too noticable.

The Immigrants are not treated as well, since 911 and the cursed Patriot act(stupid name). For fear they might be plotting something. my friend has more info on this, im not too knowledgable on this. i will look it up further. Edit: There is also a Cap on the number of immigrants allowed in the US since 1990, only 65K Visas are allowed. heres a web site for more info if your intrested. Lift the Congressional Quota on High-Skilled Workers

Good question, the ripple will be the other schools will divide to 2 grades a piece from 1st till 8th grade. high school and kindergarten do not get touched. Its still in the air to be exact. i dont know whats going to happen in Detroit.

That is very correct. My boss also sends his students to a private school, i too went to a private school up till highschool. This is a bit off topic but My bosses conservative view point is that the goverment can't run anything right, so its up to the bussineses too. he also said that the private school students grow up to become the bosses to the public school students, what a **** he is. <_< Bussiness is for profit. and also just because something isn't working right means to stop funding it, we should try harder. It takes a real comppassionate down to earth guy to see the every day people the way that FDR and JFK, maybe its because of their illnesses...