Volourn

"Even someone who dosnt know the D&D rules could get through most of the prologue and pick things up along the way" Again, I reccommened to anyone some reading of the NWN Spoilers Section. That would really blow this kind of thinking sky high. There are more than a few complaints that the prologue is too tough. Remember, even the super easy goblins there could kill a 1st level character in one hit - espiciially a wiz or sorc or even bards and rogues. Read the spoilers section. "As a parallel to this definition, any time I eat something, but do not enjoy it as much as I expected, it is no longer defined as food." Haha. :D

"Can I take aimed shots in KotORs or NWN, Jade Empire, and such games? Nope." Yes, you can. In fact, both NWN and KOTOR have feats that do exactly that. In fcat, many full fledge turn base games don't even the ability to take aimed shots. NWN, for example, has called shots for the arms and legs. "On normal dificulty in Fallout 2 an optimized character can still get his or her butt kicked in the Temple of Trials." Really? The Temple of Trials is very ahrd to die in. While FO2 is more challening than KOTOR1&2; the TOT is not. On top of that, the difficulty of a game has NOTHING to do with TB or RT. I would say it's impossible to die in the TOT with an 'optimized' character built for combat. But, to say that, I need to know what you mean by 'optimized'. I've played lots of easy tb games. TOEE surely comes to mind. I've played lots of challenging rt games. BG series (well.. it's technically a mixed of real and turn base at the core). KOTOR series may be easy; but it has nothing to do with its mixed real and turn base combat. I also remember you saying that you felt 'challenged' by JE (that's the game not the developer, lol). Weird now that you are arguing otherwise. SP: Not so true. You need to know the rules to play NWN successfully. Just read the NWN GD and Spoilers section of all three campaigns to see what I mean. Lots of people have MAJOR problems fighting those battles simply because they misunderstand or just don't know about a certain rule. Example: Someone whines about a certain party vs party battle in HOTU being impossible. Some NWN/D&D expert comes in bragging how that fight was a walk in park because they had x class, xparty members, and x items, and totally talks down to the first guy. NWN is very unforgiving when it comes to not not knowing the rules.

Jaheria was awesome. One of my fave npcs ever. Definitely superior to Bastila who was just an Aribeth wannabe anyways. LOL As for the atcual topic, some of the games I sued to have good fun playing... long time ago. None of those games would likely entertain me for more than 2 minutes now due to their simplicty.

Good combat. That's all I want. Llyranor, and I win.

"So the fact that in K1 the plot was obvious after 2 planets and you spend two thirds of the game whacking droids, mandalorians, spiders and kath hounds doesn't matter a bit? I mean; I do enjoy combat; if it's well done and requires at least a small amount of preparation and thought(like in BG 2 for instance), I can survive through zounds and zounds of it without getting bored. K1 had none of that." KOTOR2's combat was even easier than the eays KOTOR1 combat. And, it's plot was even more obvious consideirng that the main villainess was obviously in your party from the start. You should play KOTOR2. It's a fun game. :cool:

That's true. It was easy to figure out that Kreia was the Big Bad tm as soon as you first meet her when she is 'faking' her death. LOL What thinking does KOTOR2 require? It's set up exactly the same way KOTOR1 is - go collect x items... opp star maps... oops jedi masters. LOL I think both games are about equal, and both Obsidian (in the past for those memebers who worked at BIS) and BIO have done much better stuff with BG series, JE, PST, and FO2. KOTOR1 has a superior main character, a more realistic main villain that you aren't forced to travel with, some better written quest, and much less bugs over KOTOR2. KOTOR2 has better useage of skills in dialogue (one of the best games ever in that regard), and Obsidian went 2/3 of using old KOTOR characters in ameaningful way (the two robots with the smaller one being much better done) over KOTOR1. Neither KOTOR is deep, and neithe requires a greta thinking ability. Kreia is nothing more than your typical hatemonger dedidctaed to wiping her enemies out. She is just another Malak. Sure, they give her lots of dialogue that tries to sound deep but ultimately falls flat when it comes down to the same thing - Jedi and more specifically evil. She complains about others seeing things in black and white yet she is more guilty of anyone of doing just that. LOL At least, while Malak is not deep (afterall, his main purpose is to antagonize the player) I'd rtaher have a 'shallow, obvious' villain than a 'shallow, obvious' villian who talks a lot. Both games are around 75-80%. Good, and fun. But I felt no need to finish them a second time though I most definitely tried to.

What a joke! Just return the thing if it doens't work properly. Definitely not worth a lawsuit. It should be thrown out.

I find th elevel of maturity has nothing to do with age. A lot of so called 'older people'e extremely immature. In fact, they're usually worse because they actually self delude themselves into believe they are mature when they aren't.

BL is a good game. Not great; but good. Pros - Role-playing, Characters, and Dialogue (for most of it) Negatives - Combat, Bugs, Combat, The Endings, Combat

"Flame war? Off topic maybe, but it looked like a discussion to me. He just closed it because someone wasn't praising Bio, and they simply couldn't have that. I remember at the end, shortly before I signed up here, anytime I said anything that didn't border on Bio propaganda got me flamed or the thread closed within a day or two." You should read more of the BIO baords. There's a lot of criticism about BIO that's left untouched. But, yeah, flame wars are usually eventually locked up. "Hey Gaider, One Dimensional badguys like Malak and Sun li died out in the 80's. Get with the times." Like FO2? PST? Like KOTOR2? Like IWD1? Like IWD2? Hmm.. Seems to me that BIO isn't the only one with that problem.. Not that I feel it's a real problem. Usually a character that is such a major antagaonist of the PC for the entire game isn't exactly gonna go,"Oops! My apologizes! I didn't mean to try to kill you 100 times! Can we just be friends!" That simply isn't realistic. That isn't one dimensional. That's being true to one's character.

"Its our way of bantering backi and forth. Don't like it, use the ignore function. If Volourn and I ever met in real life we probably do the same thing in normal conversation mode. HAHAHAHA! One of my RL friends do this sort of thing all the time. It really gets on the nerves of the gaming group because we can banter nonsensical for hours like that." Hehe. if only one of my RL traits have shown up on the baords, it's my ability to go back and forth on even the most anal of subjects for a very long time. LOL

"As a moderator at Obsidian I see the following advantages and disadvantages with having the NWN2 forums hosted by BioWare: - A game developed by OE should be hosted by OE, I know some of the devs have expressed concern that this split makes it difficult for them to take the time to post on their own boards. - The OE forums are much faster and less cluttered. + Not having 10000 ewoks bombarding the forum with the same questions over and over again 100times a day makes my job easier" I agree with the genius who wrote this more less. Of course, these seem to be the disadvantages listed only. LOL Talk about misadvertisement in the first sentence. "Sorry, but you two seem to have symptons of an issue known as "grasping on straws" aka " argument not really worth the efffort at all"." Eh. All in good fun. It's better and less annoying to disucss how much dollars Hades has spent on NWN then on the 'mine is bigger than yours' argument that's going on between the BIO vs. Obsidian Posters thing. Thankfully, the Obsidian and BIO devs tend to stay out of it. "They had a special if you preordered it. I don't count txes because taxes don't go to the company nor the business I am buying it from. It goes to the state and/or federal government. That is often why it is cheaper to buy things online for you don't pay state taxes on most purchases done there."

"Did he say that he bought them all at full price?" Well... He bought them all as soon as they came out (within aweek so you, Hades, don't suggest you didn't buy it as soon as they did. lol). "Total of $96. That is over a time frame of 3 years. Not a lot of money at all." Plus taxes. And, if you only spent $30 on NWN Original when it first came out - even if it is Amerikan - I gotta say that's a pretty cheap store you bought it from. Heh.

"At least in the relativelly small RPG world." Keep my comments in perspective. BIO is nowhere near Blizzard's level when it comes to all of gaming. "I haven't even broken broken past $100." Ok. Uhuh. You bought NWN, the two expansions, at least one repurchase of all three, and three different PM packages yet haven't spent $100. Right. Espicially consideirng that NWN is commonly referred to as one of the most expensive games ever. "Good point of bioboards is that you can say **** there. Edit: bio weenie" Heh. Yet, people accuse BIO of being over sensitive to flames and the like.

New Update: Neverwinter Nights, and Madden 2006 though Madden is annoying me right now 'cause of the ease of interceptions. LOL :D

"Yes, I agree they make good games but that is nothing special compared to other game companies that make good games." The difference is they don't just make one good game and disseappear. They make game afetr game. The fact that you of all people like JE even though it's combat is real time action says a lot. The fact that as much as you complain about NWN you have spent a lot of money and time on it. "They can't stand an honest opinion." There's honest opinion, and then there's just plain rudeness. i, perosnally, have no problem with people being rude or mean or cruel; but it makes sense for a professional company to cut the people. There's A LOT of people who spend their days criticizing BIO on the BIO baords, and nothing happens. The difference is they criticize; they don't atagonize or attack. P.S. As Rhomal knows I cna't post in that thread; but I'll just say that both baords (like all baords) have their share of good and evil posters as well as spam, and everything else. The biggest differences to me is that Obsidian boards are quicker and BIO boards have a sueprior exchange of ideas mainly because of all the dev posts - both BIO and Obsidian -. I like 'em both in spite of certain dramas.

I'm not getting involved. I have my own Forum Dramas to deal with. LOL :D "Not worth my time. Bioware peeps have actually bought into their press thinking that they are all that. They make good games, but they aren't gods of gaming as they think they are." Sure, they are. At least in the relativelly small RPG world. How many game devloeprs get their games unsed in colleges and univeristies amongst other stuff? BIO, and their games may not be perfect; but they're as close to a surefire hit as any RPG company can be.

"Heres the important bit. The Bad: Many of the unique gameplay features of the last couple of Madden games are missing; lots of missing modes--all you get is a husk of a franchise mode and online play; some unsightly animation and graphical hang-ups that stick out all the more on a next-gen console; you can't challenge plays. Probably enough there to justify the score , which is only going to be approximate anyway since it's one guys opinon. Wouldnt place any faith (actually less) in the reader votes since people go around inflating and deflating the scores." Really? They really cheated the x-box/x-box 360 fans then. I just bought Madden 2006 for the PS2 two days ago, and it has all the old features from the old version plus a bunch of new stuff. It definitely allows one to challenge plays. In fact, I got back the ball after I had 'fumbled' the ball and challenged the call successfully. The Franchise Mode is even deeper before with a choice of praticing key plays before each game to better prepare your team. And, the graphics are as close to perfection as one could expect. Weird... Us PS2 Madden fanboys got an awesome Madden 2006. Sucks to be a x-box 360 Madden fanboy. Hehehe.

"reviewer has a rant about how there is no functional multiplayer. If you dont care about multiplayer , then it wont be a 60% to you." Exactly.

Isn't that the same thing? :D

75% is a B. More seriously, I try to as well; but the review sites don't. So, when we see a game get a 60% that's a low end for them so we have to keep that in mind. 70% = ok or average, 80% is good, and 90% (as per usual) equals amongst the best. I'm not saying I agree with the thought process; but it's soemthing to keep in mind. Nothing to worry about, however.

The thing to remember is that video games aren't rated on a 1-10 or 1-100 scale for the most part. They're rated basically on a 6-10 or 60-100 scale. Remember that, and for the most part they make sense. Besdies, as for reviews, it's best to pay attention to what the actual review states about the game; not the number. Afterall, GS gave JE 84% but it's apparant to everyone that the reviewer didn't really like the game just by what and how he wrote it.

PC vs. PC battles, and storylines are awesome. I have a host of stories including a battle that nearly tore down a mountain (figuratively speaking)and wiped out a town (not so figuratively hehe )because us PCs went at it. All in good fun!

"2000+ Us soliders dead." Impressive... until you count how many bodies the 'oppostion' has had to bury. Even in the Vietnam War where the US 'lost' they pretty much kicked the opposition's behind when it came to actual warfare. It was Amerikans who beat Amerikans.

Pirates was a great movie. Even greater as I went in not expecting much. Johhny Depp is a terrific actor as well. Good stuff for the sequels!