Volourn

"excepting perhaps deserts" Deset dwarves exist in the Realms. They are in Maztica. The fake idela that dwarves only live in mountains, hills, or caves has long been broken by D&D.

"but the only verified estimate of game length before release was Feargus' 20 hour blurb" That isn't true. There were various 'confirmations' about length prior to release. Feargus' was far from the only one. Not to emntion, we got length estimates from devs personally on both these boards and the BIO boards as well as various sites. Feragus' comments came from some random mag, and wasnever confirmed (or denied) from any Obsidianite. In fact, I beleive it was Mr. Sawyer himself who stated that Mr. U's comment was simply an error. Grom deserves NO credit. His whininga ccomplished nothing but to give all us geek netters soemthing else to spam about. LOL

"What a bunch of no lifers." They have lives. Or else they would have quit their jobs. 'Non lifers' tend not to jobs. Besdies, message board geeklings like us have NO logical recourse to laugh at others being 'no lifers'. R00fles!

SPECIAL UPDATE: Decided to do the Ironfist Cetal quests. OMG! Ph@t Loot At the Dwarf Store! Fullplate +7 with elemental resistance! HAHAHAHAHAHA! *yum* Dwarves are cool so Iw ent to help them find their relic. It's too bad most of 'em pretend the PC is just a surfacer. Yo, McFlys, I'm a dwarf too!!! Went to the mounatian. Very cool mounatin indeed. Too bad the giants were an absolute joke in every way except the king was kinda kewl the way he tried to mock ya. The giants were easy (easier than everything buy trues - they did a total of 20 damage to Khelgar until the king who did decent damage). they died easy. On top of this, these are probably the worst monster models in the entire game this side of certain dire animals. Horrid. Then there's the dragon. I laughed and his face, the spit it down. First off, it looks really,r eallya wesome. I cna't beleive he and the giants shared the same mountain. They are patehtic. However, his voice, is just plain awful. Was that common he was speaking or was it gibberish? I know they were trying for a 'deep bellowing voice'; but they failed big time. Still, the drgaon looked awesome but I think because of his great size; the engien cna't really handle him running around. Now, to the fight. First time, I kicked his butt big time then right as he was about to fall he cast regenertaion and then for some reason I could no longe rhurt him. Took awhile, but he eventually took us down. Second time, he laughed in our faces. Third time, it went smoothly other than him having a great hate on for Grobnar who he munched on within seocnds of the battle start. The battle was okayish challenge since I rushed in having not rested once, and my spellcasters having wya too many fire based offensive spells like fireball mem'd. Ah well.. them the breaks. Still, a thumbs up overall. Look was good; but got much better when you return to the keep as I received around 150kgp. Long live King Khelgar! Muahahah! Does anyone know (if) you cna open the locked doors at the Ironclan Stronghold to the supply closest. I would think as king, Khelgar would ahve access. Fooled around with the keep. Got everything; but one level of fortifaction for the keep. Next on the agenda. Got a whole bunch of new recruits, and am currnetly having fun with Mrs. Knockdown herself. Got the True Name scrolls (through an 'ambush'), and another Seargant because of another moronic Luskanite. Stupid scrolls says 'useable by warlock' and ' useable clerics' yet I can't attack it from Z. Whatever. This game doesn't cease to amaze me on how they continue to force npcs on you. Another example is when I went to the Mere to deal with the druids. He just automatically appears in the patry (so, I had 6) when we get there. No words or nothing. Whatever. Anyways, the druidic stuff was very cool. GO ELANEE!!! Now, I'm on my way to some dead dragon's spirit layaway thanks to Jerro 'conviently' remmebering. I'm sure another more useful being could have helepd us here like, you know, Aladanon. Anyways, just arrived at Spagehtti Dragons' path. Am now level 17 nearing 18. Experience has kinda dropped off in ch3 as there doesn't seem to be a lot of exploring going on. I might not even reahc level 20. Amazing in ofitself! My ac is now in the early 40s so that's cool. Once I reahc 18, Mr. Sandman can bring a dream +5 holy weapon!! And, crfated amrour that make syou immune to crits and whatnot (sneaks, I forget). eitehr wya, talk about overpowered. Still, cool beans. R00fles! P.S. The Keep is a very aqwesome adidition to the game. Not too much wrong with it from recruitment to shops to the funny adventurers. Cool beans! :joy:

Not according to Obsidian, Bio, and other game devloeprs. They want our money too. R00fles!

When you finally p;lay the game, come back and tell us what parts of the game were added just for extra time at the end. I shall await your answer. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

"and fergie is the president o' obsidian... if you weren't aware o' that fact. no doubt you assume that he is just an ignorant boob who spouts off w/o any reasons for speakings and guessings." As obsidian's Prez, I'm sure Mr. U has lots of more important things to know then exactly how long the game will be. Chances ar ehe ehard someone say a certain length, and it got changed or he ehard wrong. *shrug* That's why he's the Prez, and not a designer. He's liekly more into the business side of things.

"If 5-10 hours of content was decided to be added by Obsidian at the "11th hour" of this game, then colour me impressed. Because there doesn't seem to be anything that was blatantly rushed when it comes to the story, nor are there just large areas with mindless fighting or ancillary tasks that have little to no relevance to the actual plot of the game." Yup. I may not be the biggets fan of the story (it's alright thoguh); but ti's obviously not rushed. And, i doubt they were just adding things willy nilly during the elays. The delays were more likely to fix bugs and tinker things not make wholesales changes or additions.

"Just because Deekin doesn't like Volo ..." Wrong Volo.

I'll likely finish at the higher end of my prediction - around 50 hours or so.

Eh? That's exactly what I said.

$70.

"OPINION OPINION GOGOGOGO" O RLY? That news to me. Or is it? :crazy: :crazy: "Imoen brags about being a thief." And? How does this change a thing? A paladin shouldn't approve of Imoen being a thief either. What w asted reply you did here as you accomplished nothing. LOL "learnt about metaphors when I was twelve, Volourn. Didn't you?" This thread is about NWN2. Not Volourn.

"I didn't think she would be a 'serious problem' to even a Paladin, more of an Imoen-ish problem, just with a bit less inherent sugary goodness." She brags about being a theif, and other things a paladin should (and would not) approve. She's obviously an unscrupulius person. More importantly, she's simply a horribly written character.Want a wellw rittenc haarcter? That's Sand. Or even Bishop who is a nasty SOB. Or even the gnome. The gnome may be annoying; but it fits the character therefore he is wellw ritten. They tried to get cute with Neeshka and her antics; but failed. She joins the crap List with deekin and Minsc. Disgusting!!! "Hell, half the time you're completely illogical to me, and I don't dispute your realism as a human being." Point. Not. Found. This thread is about NWN2. Not Volourn.

Weird. I've found like 5 magic bags at least (even sold one, ol). I also found a full fledge bag of holding. :joy:

The magic bench or the crafting bench? Make sujre its on the magic bench...

The first one implies that she doesn't care about kiddies. The second implies she has heart where kiddies are concerned. So... it's logical for someone to not want children disciplined yet not willing to help look for them when theya re missing? I'm sorry; but those don't seem like two different opinions that the same perosn would have...

I threw Neeshka in the trashc an by then. that quest was pretty awesome thoguh, and kinda reminded of an old Buffy episode. I was just pointing out how disjointed a character she is. On one hand she gets mad when you agree to look for mssing chidlren and on the other she gets mad when you talk about disciplining them. So... the question is... does she care or not care about kiddies? No. logic. being. used. equals. poor. npc. to. me.

It amys cuk; but there's logical reason behind it. Why would a mage be able to add divine damage to a weapon or why would a cleric be able to make an items that copies x wizard spell? I like the system. :joy:

R00fles DeluXe!

Ireelevant if Roshan's exmaple is true. Besdies, Neeshak is one of the worst npcs ever along with the overrated Minsc and Deekin. Her seemingly random ideas about kiddies just illustrates the poor writing involved with her character. Thankfully, the majority of the other joinables have been awesomely written. :joy:

"Current system: Player talks about disciplining kids. Neeshka doesnt like it, - 1 influence. Better system: Player talks about disciplining kids, Neeshka doesnt like it, - 1 influence." She actually says that? Since when does Neeshka even care about kiddies? In my game, she got pissed at me because I had the GALL to agree to look for missing chidlren when there was no profit involved. Anbother reason to hate the character. Her illogicies ar eevn worse than the illogicies in making PCs get force feed NPCs down their throat. LOL

Yes. But, I'm not the one who amde two different bug threads. Anyways, the problem was solvbed. Still ahorrible bug. Had to use normal dififuclty mode for 20 seconds. Boooo!!!

Yeah, I'm sure you did. No biggie though as we all cna change our minds. "

LOL My character has an ac of 38. Muahahahaha!!!