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"It is?" Yes, read my post in this trhead (like 10-15 pages back lol) where I describe my feelings on the end game for further detail. I ain't explaining my reasons for the second time in the same thread.

"superior, but from a design perspective it's debatable which is the better game" Nah. BG2 is far better in every manage way except having alrge praticall;y empty places. Better defined npcs, superior writing, a more interetsing villian, more challenging and tatical battles, more ways to complete quests, etc., etc. I think people (not everyone) who prefer BG1 over BG2 ar eusually exactly as Grom describes. Also, I believe it's simply a case of BG1 being made first, and BG2 being 'more of the same'. The same curse that also strikes other sequels both in games and other entertainment industries like movies and books. "How many ****ing times can I take magic missile as my first level spell before I'm grotesquely bored with the whole process." I, for one, NEVER take magic missle as a 1st level wizard. To me, if you are actually aiming for power, magic missle is pratically the most useless first level offensive spell you can select. Doesn't really become that useful until the 3rd missle comes into play.

Agreed. Including making faulty products.

"I was agreeing with you, it is a sexist comment yes." LOL I missed the not. Hehe. Sneaky. <>

Except for the fact when you said 'like a girl' it was obviously in a condescending tone much like 'you hit like a girl' or 'you scream like a girl'. R00fles! :crazy:

"Period" just makes you sound like a girl," What's wrong with being a girl espicially if you are a girl? Sexist pig much? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

"Obsidian was completely honest, they'd provide a balanced view. I know that's not acceptable business ethics, but that doesn't mean I have to accept, condone, or defend it. I deliberately avoid jobs that would have me misleading potential customers. (Sales positions do this a lot; anything to get the sale.)" Except they're not misleading anyone. You are by bascially calling them liars and misleaders or having poor business practices. They aren't doing anything immoral. It's not their job or their moral obligation to have a balanced set of reviews.

"Period. (apparently typing this makes me more credible...) Period, Period, Period." Absolutely, it does. Period.

Well.. can't argue with that since I've done it myself.

"I wasn

Actually, I was hoping (and got) NWN2. Please, don't speak for eevryone. :crazy:

"Have you seen a person who's tennis racquet is flying out of one's hand? If it does, it could hurt someone, then tennis racquet manufacturer pays the damages? I'm with mkreku on that one. Just take some damn responsibility." The tennis racket didn't snap. The snap here snapped. That's shoddy design. Period. Let's talk about 'taking some damn responsibility'. Why doesn't Nintendo take repsonsibility by covering any damage their soddy works does? Heck, they already admitted its their fault due to the fact bthey have agreed to pay/replace the bands which means they know theys crewed up. I say Nintendo should stand up, and take responsibility for their shoddy work. Period.

The PC and his companions don't die. This is clear as day. Period.

"Not surprisingly, Obsidian doesn't post negative reviews on the front page. So much for candid reporting." Why in bejeebvers woudl they, and how in your illogical mmind do you figure they should? Of course Obsidian is bias. It's their friggin' game. They want it to sell, and do good so they can stay in business. It's not their job to provide a balanced view. That's whack! As long as they don't flat out lie; they cna do whatever they want. period.

Except they didn't throw it. The straps snapped. Again, the straps snapped. Are they designed to snap? No. It's called shoddy workmanship. period. As for Amerikans taking responsibility for their own stupid actions; shouldn't that include companies whoa re Amerikan or do business in Amerika as well? Hmm... "And I'm pretty sure that throwing your Wii-mote at the screen wasn't in the original design." And, I'm pretty sure neither was the straps snapping. R00fles! Don't make exuses for shoddy workmanship that lead directly to these accidents. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

"Well, the easiest response to like 90% of the complaints is: "We wanted to focus on the single player aspect" Nah. Most of my complaints have to do with the OC. The toolset itself is rather good depsite some of compliants. to me, the OC is NWN2's weak link (but still pretty good). "The only major problems outside of the many multiplayer issues were the AI/Pathfinding and engine optimization. As long as you used the top down view, the camera wasn't really an issue." Most people disagree with you. Lots of people had problems with other stuff including the camera view. In fact, so much so that Obsidian has chnaged it already. Go figure. *shrug*

"They must not give in to temptation. Not after how LA screwed them over last time." Yeah, LA treated Obsidian so horribly. I mean they let them devlop a slam dunk game sequel guaranteed to sell more than a million copies. How horrible of LA to help a brand new company out. R00fles!

No.

"One thing like character faces NWN2 floors NWN" Doesn't impress me much when a 2006 game has better graphics than a 2002 game. Sorry; but it's true. It be like me telling thoe who dislike NWN1 graphics that, hey, at least NWN1 graphics are better than Pacman or for us RPG fans Wizardry 1. R00fles!

"it simply seems to Gromnir that some reviewers is working real hard to give nwn2 a bad review." Absolute nonsense with no real facts to back it up. I mean 'Oblivion envy', 'payback for NWN1?', or 'bg1 to bg2 comparisons'... Where do you come up with this crap? Basically, its' nothihng more than them not agreieng with yoru exact opinion of NWN1. I remember when a set of people (a handful who think they are the majority) cheered when Gamespy (or was it Gamespot) had put NWN1 onto their 'most overrated games' list as they saw it as vindication for hating NWN1. LOL And, when it wa spointed out the reason why it was on the list because the writer felt that the toolset was overratee; but they still loved the actual shipped campaign; they cried some more. R00fles! In essence, reviews are reviews. Soem we agree with; others don't. Heck, one of my favorite NWN1 reviews was the Codex one and they (meaning SP) trashed it more or less. There is no grand conspiracy against NWN2. Most of the reviews - as per usual - have been 8+. Did you really expect EVERYONE to give it the same exact score you would? L0LLERZ! Perosnally, the NWN2 OC campaign is around an 8 for me.. slightly higher than NWN1 OC... as for the entire game, TBD. NWN2 does some things better (companiosn being the one aside from the enforced nature); but NWN1 does the combat challenge and non linearity better)... The biggest thing for me with NWN2 is not that some things were done wrong; is that the things it did wrong it did wrong majorly ie the way it goes about forcing companiosn on. I disliked this method in both KOTORs as well as JE; but NWN2 has taken the annoyance factor to a whole new level. Thankfully, many of the other problems are being fixed as we speak. Good on Obsidian for that. I expected NWN2 to improve on 99% of NWN1's aspects. Too high of an expectation? Possibly; but meh. However, a sequel should auto do that. BG2 did in basically every way. FO2 did (despite the whining of the FOF,a nd the recycled story). Instead of that, I got an OC that is slightly better (but better nontheless), and a toolset that is improved in many, many ways; but seems to have been organized sloppily. Thankfully, I got the boardies to help me out in trying to master it. "Stop discussing me, and start addressing my topics and you may yet restore your credibility, as your accusatory and caustic posts have nothing to do with the topic in hand which was in the form of questions no less - lightyears from the conversation you seem to be having with yourself about another time and place." Sarge is one of the few people who don't mind getting their hands dirty even more than me. In fact, his posts are littered with more flames than most posters. That's what makes him cool. Don't worry about his torlling. Have fun with it! :joy:

Dejavu!!!

Dejavu!!!

"radial menu is terribly slow and unwieldy for virtually all mp situations (feel better?)" Total utter bull. You apparantly never played NWN MP - eitehr PW or small groups if you think the radial menu is so 'unweildy' in MP for you. Also, none of this chnages the fact that puase can be rtaher sueful and people *do* use it in MP. Period.

Can you print screens in toolset, and if so, where do they go? I can't seem to find them with my other NWN2 pics?

Soul, there's a thread for professional threads already.. Fer shame.