Volourn

Poiosn, disease, level drain,a nd other stuff like that, I almsot always laugh at. It's so easy to defend against or fix. Why are people so scared about such wussy stuff?

JE 's alignment system wasn't perfect; but it sure beats anything else done by BIO (or BIS, or Troika, or Bethesda, or Obsidian) except possibly the FOs.

"1. I would hardly call TOEE ugly" It was certainly passable. "2. It didn't do badly, it remains troiki most profitable game from what I understand, it just took a long time to become a big seller." It did do badly. Just ebcause it was the most profitable Troika game doens't prove much since Troika's games didn't do well financially. That's why they could no longer get hired. "3. I would gladly sacrafice graphics for an honest to goodness turn base rpg. I don't understand why developers have become so obessed with real-time Rpgs esp for group game, or at the very least give us to option of playing the game in turn-based mode, ala arcanum." Problem with TOEE is that turn base or not, the game sucked.

"Things like epic level spells weren't in the original, or even the first expansion IIRC. I didn't think Time Stop was in the original either, but I can't say I played enough to notice. There are certainly reasons to criticize NWN2--romances, for example, if that's important to you--but many of the complaints stem from it not supporting every option from NWN after 5 years of patching and two major (and non-free) expansions." Tough. It's a sequel. I think his expectations are fair.

"we play crpgs. vol may not be aware of this, but more than a few crpgs has been d&d. duh. also, when Gromnir first started playing pnp rpgs, d&d were the only option. then came along games like tunnels and trolls and numerous pretenders. since the early days o' role-play we has played champions and rolemaster and gurps and a dozen other systems you probably not even familiar with. also, vol may not be aware o' this, but pnp is a group activity. not being a fan of d&d hardly prevents Gromnir from enjoying the occasional d&d rp session. as we has stated once or twice before, with role-play the rules is always secondary. our best gaming group ever were actually played with tunnels and trolls, which were a terrible system. we give far too much time and consideration to vol's recent comments. blather on if you must, but please try to raise level o' your nonsense so Gromnir and others not have to endure such silliness. 'least throw in a joke or two so we get some entertainment value from having to endure vol's brain farts come-to-life in post form. am thanksing you in advance for the future consideration." Why write gibberish, and no, I don't mean the 'we' stuff. That's cool. I mean the actual gibberish. What you blabbin' on about? I know D&D is a group activity. So are many other things. Try one of those group activities if it's a group ye seek. And, espicially since 99.9% of D&D video games are *not* group activities; your point still not found.

For a 'non fan' you sure play a lot of D&D games. :crazy:

"It is?" Yes, read my post in this trhead (like 10-15 pages back lol) where I describe my feelings on the end game for further detail. I ain't explaining my reasons for the second time in the same thread.

"superior, but from a design perspective it's debatable which is the better game" Nah. BG2 is far better in every manage way except having alrge praticall;y empty places. Better defined npcs, superior writing, a more interetsing villian, more challenging and tatical battles, more ways to complete quests, etc., etc. I think people (not everyone) who prefer BG1 over BG2 ar eusually exactly as Grom describes. Also, I believe it's simply a case of BG1 being made first, and BG2 being 'more of the same'. The same curse that also strikes other sequels both in games and other entertainment industries like movies and books. "How many ****ing times can I take magic missile as my first level spell before I'm grotesquely bored with the whole process." I, for one, NEVER take magic missle as a 1st level wizard. To me, if you are actually aiming for power, magic missle is pratically the most useless first level offensive spell you can select. Doesn't really become that useful until the 3rd missle comes into play.

Agreed. Including making faulty products.

"I was agreeing with you, it is a sexist comment yes." LOL I missed the not. Hehe. Sneaky. <>

Except for the fact when you said 'like a girl' it was obviously in a condescending tone much like 'you hit like a girl' or 'you scream like a girl'. R00fles! :crazy:

"Period" just makes you sound like a girl," What's wrong with being a girl espicially if you are a girl? Sexist pig much? :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

"Obsidian was completely honest, they'd provide a balanced view. I know that's not acceptable business ethics, but that doesn't mean I have to accept, condone, or defend it. I deliberately avoid jobs that would have me misleading potential customers. (Sales positions do this a lot; anything to get the sale.)" Except they're not misleading anyone. You are by bascially calling them liars and misleaders or having poor business practices. They aren't doing anything immoral. It's not their job or their moral obligation to have a balanced set of reviews.

"Period. (apparently typing this makes me more credible...) Period, Period, Period." Absolutely, it does. Period.

Well.. can't argue with that since I've done it myself.

"I wasn

Actually, I was hoping (and got) NWN2. Please, don't speak for eevryone. :crazy:

"Have you seen a person who's tennis racquet is flying out of one's hand? If it does, it could hurt someone, then tennis racquet manufacturer pays the damages? I'm with mkreku on that one. Just take some damn responsibility." The tennis racket didn't snap. The snap here snapped. That's shoddy design. Period. Let's talk about 'taking some damn responsibility'. Why doesn't Nintendo take repsonsibility by covering any damage their soddy works does? Heck, they already admitted its their fault due to the fact bthey have agreed to pay/replace the bands which means they know theys crewed up. I say Nintendo should stand up, and take responsibility for their shoddy work. Period.

The PC and his companions don't die. This is clear as day. Period.

"Not surprisingly, Obsidian doesn't post negative reviews on the front page. So much for candid reporting." Why in bejeebvers woudl they, and how in your illogical mmind do you figure they should? Of course Obsidian is bias. It's their friggin' game. They want it to sell, and do good so they can stay in business. It's not their job to provide a balanced view. That's whack! As long as they don't flat out lie; they cna do whatever they want. period.

Except they didn't throw it. The straps snapped. Again, the straps snapped. Are they designed to snap? No. It's called shoddy workmanship. period. As for Amerikans taking responsibility for their own stupid actions; shouldn't that include companies whoa re Amerikan or do business in Amerika as well? Hmm... "And I'm pretty sure that throwing your Wii-mote at the screen wasn't in the original design." And, I'm pretty sure neither was the straps snapping. R00fles! Don't make exuses for shoddy workmanship that lead directly to these accidents. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

"Well, the easiest response to like 90% of the complaints is: "We wanted to focus on the single player aspect" Nah. Most of my complaints have to do with the OC. The toolset itself is rather good depsite some of compliants. to me, the OC is NWN2's weak link (but still pretty good). "The only major problems outside of the many multiplayer issues were the AI/Pathfinding and engine optimization. As long as you used the top down view, the camera wasn't really an issue." Most people disagree with you. Lots of people had problems with other stuff including the camera view. In fact, so much so that Obsidian has chnaged it already. Go figure. *shrug*

"They must not give in to temptation. Not after how LA screwed them over last time." Yeah, LA treated Obsidian so horribly. I mean they let them devlop a slam dunk game sequel guaranteed to sell more than a million copies. How horrible of LA to help a brand new company out. R00fles!

No.

"One thing like character faces NWN2 floors NWN" Doesn't impress me much when a 2006 game has better graphics than a 2002 game. Sorry; but it's true. It be like me telling thoe who dislike NWN1 graphics that, hey, at least NWN1 graphics are better than Pacman or for us RPG fans Wizardry 1. R00fles!