Meshugger

Wait what. Germany is planning on destabilizing Europe so German businesses can buy up capital and the EU can push neoliberalism as hard as possible. You missed the part with political "normalization", meaning that a federalization of the states in the EU and more centralized power. People without a strong sense of national community are more passive and will be easier to control in the power vacuum that it creates....or the leaders are simply completely clueless and we are riding the chaos-train. Both of you sound suspiciously like you're spewing tinfoil-hat nonsense, do you have any extraordinary evidence to back up your extraordinary claims? (Also, I somehow doubt Woldan meant to allude to that. I'm kinda curious about his insane conspiracy theory as well.) Lets turn it around, what kind of people benefit from nations giving up their sovereignity and the erosion of the nationstate with no distinct ethnic groups? But no matter, here's a carrot for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nikolaus_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi Meshugger do you honestly see the EU as that ? I may be missing something but do you see the EU as " nations giving up their sovereignity and the erosion of the nationstate with no distinct ethnic groups" ? In it's current form, yes. Although it didn't start this way of course. It was quite innocent 50 years ago with the foundation of the coal & steel union, which was based on the idea that countries that are economically interdependent would not so quickly declare war upon another. After the Maastricht-agreement it all went to hell however. Look, we have the following scenarios ahead of us: 1) The current situation is allowed to happen in according to financial and political self-interests, which will end up with civil wars and a balkanization of Europe for future generations 2) The current situation is allowed to happen in according to financial and political self-interests, which will end up with a slow erosion of nations and ultimately a collapse like Rome 3) The current situation has happened because of ineptitude, misplaced altruism and general apathy of the leaders, which will end up with civil wars and a balkanization of Europe for future generations 4) The situation has happened because of ineptitude, misplaced altruism and general apathy of the leaders, which will end up with a slow erosion of nations and ultimately a collapse like Rome I really hope that i am wrong. I really do. But i see little signs of any other thing happening.

Wait what. Germany is planning on destabilizing Europe so German businesses can buy up capital and the EU can push neoliberalism as hard as possible. You missed the part with political "normalization", meaning that a federalization of the states in the EU and more centralized power. People without a strong sense of national community are more passive and will be easier to control in the power vacuum that it creates....or the leaders are simply completely clueless and we are riding the chaos-train. Both of you sound suspiciously like you're spewing tinfoil-hat nonsense, do you have any extraordinary evidence to back up your extraordinary claims? (Also, I somehow doubt Woldan meant to allude to that. I'm kinda curious about his insane conspiracy theory as well.) Lets turn it around, what kind of people benefit from nations giving up their sovereignity and the erosion of the nationstate with no distinct ethnic groups? But no matter, here's a carrot for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nikolaus_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi

Did his mother drop his head on the floor while he was little or something?

Everyone is separated, but equal to one another.

Certainly. But i was talking about their ethos. Not their modus operandi.

That's beside the point. They live in the fantasy that they alone have the power to decide on what is taboo and how society should conditioned to their needs, in the name of the "public" or "people" of course. Their final solution is to remove the white, christian male as anything positive culturally, socially and politically in our society and they have their good conscience on their side. So yeah, what's the difference between them and the nazis really? Just replace a word here and there and you have the same ethos.

By that logic, being a Nazi is actually quite a good thing. You're making social changes and damned everyone telling you otherwise.

Wait what. Germany is planning on destabilizing Europe so German businesses can buy up capital and the EU can push neoliberalism as hard as possible. You missed the part with political "normalization", meaning that a federalization of the states in the EU and more centralized power. People without a strong sense of national community are more passive and will be easier to control in the power vacuum that it creates....or the leaders are simply completely clueless and we are riding the chaos-train. I do not want to be right in either case.

No, mate. I mean more like over a 15 year period, where most are actually African (sub-saharan and Moroccan), South American, and Romanian, and an estimated half a million of illegals. Do the math. Or ask /pol/ to do it for you. They answered that the international jewry is out to destroy europe by making every goyim a passive slave without any clear cultural heritage and that ISIS is a Mossad funded and trained operation. Uhm, do not know how to make out of that number. But really, i took the statistics from wikipedia, where the graph started at 1980. I do not understand how you can compare it to the current scenario in any way. Not necessarily, sorry to rain on your parade. We've absorbed close to 7 million immigrants, and despite the unemployment rates and economic crisis, far-right parties are still niche at best, without parliamentary representation or significant street support. Propaganda and hate-mongering are a bigger factor in the rise of extreme political movements than anything else, provided that people at large have their basic needs covered. And by the time they don't, you have bigger problems anyway. Oh, you mean over a 30 year period where most are from EU and Latin america, leaving about 750k from Marocco? And most in an orderly fashion? Yeah, exactly the same thing. https://www.facebook.com/LordChips/videos/10153011938595863/?fref=nf ^Shared over 6 million times. This is big. It is watched over 6 million times shared only 265900 times. So it is quite far behind your typical facebook cat video Whops, my bad. I stand corrected.

Not necessarily, sorry to rain on your parade. We've absorbed close to 7 million immigrants, and despite the unemployment rates and economic crisis, far-right parties are still niche at best, without parliamentary representation or significant street support. Propaganda and hate-mongering are a bigger factor in the rise of extreme political movements than anything else, provided that people at large have their basic needs covered. And by the time they don't, you have bigger problems anyway. Oh, you mean over a 30 year period where most are from EU and Latin america, leaving about 750k from Marocco? And most in an orderly fashion? Yeah, exactly the same thing. https://www.facebook.com/LordChips/videos/10153011938595863/?fref=nf ^Shared over 6 million times. This is big.

As i said, they are men dressed as welfare queens with some ISIS warriors here and there. Throw all the men out and keep the women and children. Kurdish, Yazedi and Assyrian (orthodox christian) are given first row in as the are actively persecuted in those areas.

I, for one, am not looking forward to fascism 2.0. Too bad it *will* happen as long as refugee policy remains as it is with practically open borders. Zizek is completely right on that part.

Holy ****! Poland Stronk.

In Syria's case it is difficult thing to decide which side one should fight if they want to protect their country, as country is currently ruled by Bashar al-Assad, who is considered by western nations to be dictator who is willing to use chemical weapons against civilian population. Other options are several militant opposition groups that are mostly considered being terrorist by western countries and who aren't offering anything bettern than al-Assad's regime. And then there is ISIL that is considered to be new Nazis by western countries and one of the worst terrorist organizations that world has seen, that preaches extremely radical Islam and is willing to do very horrendous things to those that opposite them and even those that support them in some cases if they break their extremists rules. In case of Iraq things are bit muddier, although Iraq has currently government made of shia muslims, who don't seem to have ability to control their country and who look dis-favorably Iraq's sunni muslim minority (that was in power during Saddam Hussein's era), which has created inner conflict that is helped ISIL take control over large parts of Iraq. Kurdi populations are oppressed in nearly every country they live in, although they seem to be people that are most willing to fight, probably because they see this crisis as opportunity to create new country for Kurdis. Libya is currently absolute mess where nobody really has control over the country which has created in many place very lawless environment and power vacuum where one has hard time to determine who they should support to power. Somalia has been in bad shape for long time now and current crisis in Middle East and north Africa has only made things worse. Although from western stand point there is government that has western support, but there are parts in Somalia where that government don't have any control over things, as they are controlled by extremists islamic groups. Meaning that it can be difficult to choose side in war where every side fights against your interests and world views. No history is written by cowards.

^Funny how it is considered treason on most countries and cultures on what they are doing, as in able men in their 20's and 30's fleeing a war in their country. Perhaps they are just homosexuals seeking protection though.

Ew. Almost all social interaction is conducted nowadays via social media. It's almost impossible to avoid it. Well, if the only options are either accepting a neverending horde of invading settlers or to fight back, it's not that difficult to guess what will happen. All those welcoming parties are in for a rude awakening, which I doubt that will not end at the Bosphorus. The ideal of pacifism has given us 70 years of peace and prosperity, but sadly we have to lift the veil and accept the facts as they are: War.

Volourn is right. Just let it slide, lick your wounds and move on. No need for nerveous, half-hearted jokes on your way out.

Ok guys, what's going on here in this thread? This is the anti-version of my facebook feed, and most importantly, the anti-version of what the media is broadcasting. People giving up their homes for refugee housing, young women welcoming them with cheers and banderollas, spontaenous food & clothing donations and so on and so on. It's like that the media outcry is manufactured or something.

In case you guys have been watching the news, the borders in the EU are not quite working as some EU members want to enforce the rules and some don't, all while it is expected that up to 800 000 people will seek asylum in Germany alone. These are the current figures according to UNCHR: But graphs are just graphs, lets check how the situation is at the greek island of Lesbos, who recieved 10 000 more refugees just today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epNWPJQQXMU A translation of what the man in the end is saying: As anyone with a brain knows, whenever you have a major demographical displacement going on, things will get quite hostile and quickly. Godspeed fellas! Oh btw, check the date of this article below, hopefully it's completely baseless: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2958517/The-Mediterranean-sea-chaos-Gaddafi-s-chilling-prophecy-interview-ISIS-threatens-send-500-000-migrants-Europe-psychological-weapon-bombed.html

What are you talking about?

That....doesn't sound good either. I pity you

The Ninth Gate I haven't seen it since it ran at the cinema. It has actually aged pretty well...and oh: I happily damn myself to all eternity for that kind of a woman.

I think we should sit down and ponder upon what Jesus would do.

Oikophobia against yourself and your people can sometimes lead to strange results.

Step aside, what do the Poles know about themselves? Nothing! Now let your betters from the other side of Twitter decide your etnicity, history and cultural expressions for you.