ShadySands Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) The excuses are actually pretty impressive displays of mental gymnastics Edited August 15, 2017 by ShadySands 1 Free games updated 3/4/21
Deadly_Nightshade Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 I'm afraid and worried, it's going to get worse isn't it? Unless the Country as a whole unites to decry this as abhorrent and unacceptable and actively tries to resist, instead of just playing lip service, then it is going to get worse. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
smjjames Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 I'm afraid and worried, it's going to get worse isn't it? Unless the Country as a whole unites to decry this as abhorrent and unacceptable and actively tries to resist, instead of just playing lip service, then it is going to get worse. It's definetly not over yet, that's for sure, and you can probably count on Trump potentially making things worse. Like what if something bigger happens that absolutely cannot be blamed on the counter-protestors or contorting his way out of it?
Deadly_Nightshade Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 2 "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
smjjames Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 While awesome, it does bring up the question of "Why didn't they (GoDaddy and Google included) do it earlier?" if they don't want to support white supremacy and neonazis. Not saying that the companies are bad, it's just a "Why now and not earlier?" question. Obviously the answer would be money, but it's more a pattern of enforcement.
injurai Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 The US gov. has undercover plants in many hate groups. If Google can host something and pretend like it's turning a blind eye. Then they can silently keep tabs on the groups. Leftists love to take the cynical "Google = alt-right, Google = Greed" but I think it's far more nuanced. Also Google doesn't know half of what it's hosting until something becomes a household name, and when something is audited, silencing something unprompted can often back fire. Surely open hatred should merit prompting but unfortunately it doesn't... so I think the way they go about it already the best charted way.
smjjames Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 You're probably right, also, this article explains the whole thing somewhat: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/14/16143820/godaddy-and-google-wont-host-daily-stormer-domain So, yeah, it's really not as simple as it may seem.
Bartimaeus Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) What the? When I posted my previous post, it was at the bottom of page 27, edited it, left, came back, and now it's at the top of page 28. Don't know if this is a sign of the thread going wonky or if it's normal. It's because of me or others that are on moderation. Our posts don't show up until mod approves them and they show up in place where we made them instead of at bottom. Oh I see. Thought the thread was bugging out and I know you guys make new politics threads occasionally because the thread bugged out. Alternatively, if you posted a quick reply (...which is what almost everyone does these days, I think) after somebody else posted, it would show that it's at the bottom of the current page...even if it's actually at the top of the next page: it won't move until you refresh/re-enter the thread, I am pretty sure. However, since you were replying to Katphood (the last post on that previous page), then I think unless you just happened to hit the "new post" button that sometimes pops up when there's a new post, that probably wasn't the case. Basically, it seems like under certain circumstances, it locally (i.e. on your side) thinks it should make the cut for that page, and shows it there...but it actually isn't. Edited August 15, 2017 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
Katphood Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 *rubs hands together* There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
rjshae Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Do you suppose PC correctness and the tolerance meme have become this generation's McCarthyism? It's starting to feel that way. There's a definite witch hunt element to it. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
Agiel Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 2 Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling
Deadly_Nightshade Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Awww... Poor David Duke got his feelings hurt because Trump said a mean thing. I wonder if he'll keep trying to fulfill Trump's promises now... Hopefully not but I doubt that he'll stay mad at his beloved Trump for long. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Katphood Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Do you suppose PC correctness and the tolerance meme have become this generation's McCarthyism? It's starting to feel that way. There's a definite witch hunt element to it. I don't have any sources for this one but I heard that Obama deported more foreigners during his presidency compared to any other U.S president that came before him. There is also the fact that he admits in his own words that his behavior towards the republican party was rather conservative from start to finish. Winning the election doesn't mean you can bully the other side and dedicate every single asset of the country to your own vision. Also, Obama Care? Why didn't he name it 'The American Healthcare'? Edited August 15, 2017 by Katphood There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Deadly_Nightshade Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Also, Obama Care? Why didn't he name it 'The American Healthcare'? It's actually named The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or the Affordable Care Act for short, but people kept using the name 'Obamacare' enough that it stuck and now almost no one remembers the proper name. I usually call it the ACA but have to follow up with 'Obamacare' because no one knows what I'm talking about. 1 "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Katphood Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Just in: Kim craps his pants. Show is over fellas, WW3 has been pushed back...again!!! There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Deadly_Nightshade Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 But is Guam safe from capsizing? "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Agiel Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Interestingly enough the run-up to Operation Linebacker I that was launched in response to the PAVN's "Easter Offensive" into South Vietnam called for a grand total of 210 B-52s to be allocated for the campaign to airbases in Thailand and Guam, about half of the B-52s that were under SAC at the time. The large number of bombers that were swamping Andersen AFB's taxiways made one 8th Air Force planner to remark: "We kept waiting for the northern end of the island to sink." Edited August 15, 2017 by Agiel 1 Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling
Chilloutman Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 A woman had just been killed and he said 'violence on many sides' like the Nazis and the counter protesters were somehow the same. Maybe I read too much into it but didn't he want to point out that both sides should shut up? I don't know but Barkley's riots were few weeks ago where it was other side rioting. I think he is completely right about 'violence on many sides'. Doesn't sounds anyhow wrong to me... 2 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Katphood Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 North Korea's missile success...brought to you by *drum roll* Ukraine! 1 There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Malcador Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Sounds like State department people did their job. Well that it wasn't going to happen anyway, even with Trump's bull****ting Edited August 15, 2017 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Malcador Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) A woman had just been killed and he said 'violence on many sides' like the Nazis and the counter protesters were somehow the same.Maybe I read too much into it but didn't he want to point out that both sides should shut up? I don't know but Barkley's riots were few weeks ago where it was other side rioting. I think he is completely right about 'violence on many sides'. Doesn't sounds anyhow wrong to me...It's the timing. Trying to condemn everyone right after an attempt of mass murder can be taken as some kind of "what about.." ploy and thus be shielding the one side that people know like him. Much like anything you hear in a corporate environment, always are games in words. Given his past comments, kind of blew on an easy win by just condemning Nazis and KKK folk. Edited August 15, 2017 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
smjjames Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Sounds like State department people did their job. Well that it wasn't going to happen anyway, even with Trump's bull****ting I wouldn't count it out. Trump could still overreact to something and he very well could try something in an attempt to distract from everything and make people praise him.
Malcador Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 Maybe he'll have another meeting where the cabinet praise him Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Wrath of Dagon Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 National Socialism vs International Socialism: http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2017/08/nazisms-marxist-roots.html 1 "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Chilloutman Posted August 15, 2017 Posted August 15, 2017 National Socialism vs International Socialism: http://senseofevents.blogspot.com/2017/08/nazisms-marxist-roots.htmlso... the involved KKK members and the involved alt-right members were actually Nazis? And those were actually Marxist? I really do not know why this idea is so popular that national socialism and classical socialism somehow are related. Is it because Mussolini liked Marx? Is it because they called themselves socialists? They catered to the working class. ehh what? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
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