BruceVC Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I am watching this fire in London live and the one Sky News reporter interviews one of the residents who tells the reporter " I watched a women jump from about the 12th floor to avoid death by fire " The reporter says " was she injured after jumping " ........seriously? What kind of question is that...what answer was the reporter expecting " no she was fine after jumping from the 12th floor " Would you say it has got to be one of the worst demonstrations of ignorance? It does demonstrate ignorance but thinking 9/11 wasn't committed by Al-Qaeda is egregiously more ignorant "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 <------------- Infowars The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Wow! A steel skyscraper completely engulfed in flames and burning for over 6 hours. It hasn't collapsed!! How could this be?!!? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4601902/Huge-inferno-West-London-tower-block.html Minus structural damage from a plane strike. Not a suitable comparison, I think. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hold up a second, are you guys trying to insinuate that aircraft filled with ~16000 gallons of fuel each would cause different damage than a normal residential fire? Thats crazy talk! 2 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40275055 Finally a baseball game got people excited. From terror I guess, but still excited. Hold up a second, are you guys trying to insinuate that aircraft filled with ~16000 gallons of fuel each would cause different damage than a normal residential fire? Thats crazy talk!Don't you know we all have our doctorates in Civil Engineering here ? 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 The block underwent a £10.3m renovation that was completed in May 2016. In January that year, Grenfell Action Group raised concern about the single emergency exit to the building in 2016, warning that if that exit were to become blocked in a fire, people would be trapped inside. Renovations also included the addition of insulated exterior cladding and double-glazed windows to the reinforced concrete building, as well as a communal heating system. The building works were criticised by the Grenfell Action Group, which said the installation of new water heaters in the hallways of many of the flats made the already tight access even more cramped. The 1970s building was clad with a system of polyester powder-coated aluminium rain-screen panels, many of which appeared to be burning strongly during the blaze. It was installed at a cost of £2.6m by specialist facades contractor Harley Facades Limited. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/14/fire-safety-concerns-raised-by-grenfell-tower-residents-in-2012 Also were written up by the fire brigade. Building management firms are crap the world over I see Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Perhaps building management companies are controlled by the Illuminati? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Perhaps building management companies are controlled by the Illuminati?Well, here you'd just assume mafia. Illuminati handle things with a little more subtlety. Kind of glad I don't rent/own a condo here so don't have to deal with that (just deal with my own mismanagement of my property) Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben No.3 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Germany's ministers just decided to not only allow police to tap into private messaging apps (up until now it was only phone calls and classical messaging), but also decided to take the fingerprints of all refugees as young as 6 years. Some freedom. Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Germany's ministers just decided to not only allow police to tap into private messaging apps (up until now it was only phone calls and classical messaging), but also decided to take the fingerprints of all refugees as young as 6 years. Some freedom. This is perfectly understandable considering the terrorist threat Germany faces, you should be grateful Bennie....you young people nowadays, very ungrateful for everything you have Edited June 14, 2017 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I would go one further, DNA samples taken at birth of every single person born in the US. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben No.3 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Germany's ministers just decided to not only allow police to tap into private messaging apps (up until now it was only phone calls and classical messaging), but also decided to take the fingerprints of all refugees as young as 6 years. Some freedom.This is perfectly understandable considering the terrorist threat Germany faces, you should be grateful Bennie....you young people nowadays, very ungrateful for everything you have "Don't worry Bennie. Big Brother is a brother after all". https://youtu.be/_toRV6ziOYg Do you agree with this Brucie? Then tell me you sweet summer child, how should a child ever develop a critical mind? Edited June 14, 2017 by Ben No.3 1 Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I would go one further, DNA samples taken at birth of every single person born in the US. Whats wrong with that? Surely if you not breaking the law it wouldn't be a problem ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben No.3 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I would go one further, DNA samples taken at birth of every single person born in the US. Whats wrong with that? Surely if you not breaking the law it wouldn't be a problem ? please tell me your being ironic? It means that I am investigated against when I am literally as innocent as can be (since I was just born!) what about innocence until proven guilty? No? Everybody knows the deal is rotten Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton For your ribbons and bows And everybody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It means that I am investigated against when I am literally as innocent as can be (since I was just born!) what about innocence until proven guilty? No? What are you talking about? The police show up to a crime scene, collect physical evidence (including your DNA), and run it through the database. BINGO! Ben No.3 left a hair behind whilst robbing the German equivalent to 7-11 (probably called 8-25 cause they work so hard) and they can roll right up to his residence and slap the cuffs on. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It means that I am investigated against when I am literally as innocent as can be (since I was just born!) what about innocence until proven guilty? No? What are you talking about? The police show up to a crime scene, collect physical evidence (including your DNA), and run it through the database. BINGO! Ben No.3 left a hair behind whilst robbing the German equivalent to 7-11 (probably called 8-25 cause they work so hard) and they can roll right up to his residence and slap the cuffs on. Problem is in partial DNA matches which can cause unfounded suspicions, which can in bad day lead in imprisonment of wrong person because they can't afford to defend themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It means that I am investigated against when I am literally as innocent as can be (since I was just born!) what about innocence until proven guilty? No? What are you talking about? The police show up to a crime scene, collect physical evidence (including your DNA), and run it through the database. BINGO! Ben No.3 left a hair behind whilst robbing the German equivalent to 7-11 (probably called 8-25 cause they work so hard) and they can roll right up to his residence and slap the cuffs on. Problem is in partial DNA matches which can cause unfounded suspicions, which can in bad day lead in imprisonment of wrong person because they can't afford to defend themselves. There may be the odd 2-4 % mistakes but they can build in additional proof checking and analysis of the DNA to reduce false positives? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Problem is in partial DNA matches which can cause unfounded suspicions, which can in bad day lead in imprisonment of wrong person because they can't afford to defend themselves. The first result of Googling "partial DNA match" offers an interesting result from the Denver District Attorney: When a crime-scene DNA sample matches a profile in the database at most, but not all loci, the individual from the database is excluded. However, it is very likely that a close relative is the source of that DNA rather than a random, unrelated individual. These partial matches can be used by investigators to find the individual who left the DNA at the crime scene, providing potentially valuable information in an ongoing investigation. Although a familial search software was not used to help solve the following cases, they represent examples of investigations where a partial DNA match with a close relative was used to solve crimes. So at least in Colorado, a full match is needed. But the information is still valuable. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 220K criminal aliens in Texas prisons over the last 6 years! http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/06/14/220k-criminal-aliens-incarcerated-texas-6-years-says-dps/ And that's just Texas. These are criminals who wouldn't be here at all if the government did its job. Edit: Comey reportedly confronted Lynch about interference in Clinton investigation: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/14/comey-reportedly-confronted-lynch-over-clinton-email-probe-involvement.html Yet he didn't see fit to leak it to get a special council appointed. Not that that would've worked, as the Obama administration was completely shameless. Edited June 14, 2017 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Even better. Police show up at the crime scene with your DNA and plants it as a physical evidence. Or your DNA is leaked to the opposing party and they use it to discredit you. Imagine how fun it would be if it was sold as data to insurance companies, employers etc. What fun! Those are all good points but if you're living in a society that corrupt then they don't need your DNA to "get you". Also, the pattern of your DNA existing in a database does not provide anyone with the actual physical DNA. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsuelm Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Wow! A steel skyscraper completely engulfed in flames and burning for over 6 hours. It hasn't collapsed!! How could this be?!!? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4601902/Huge-inferno-West-London-tower-block.html Minus structural damage from a plane strike. Not a suitable comparison, I think. Who said anything about a plane strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Who said anything about a plane strike? Don't think anyone needed to. Seems the building was concrete as well. That cladding was a genius idea in hindsight, as well. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Plenty of genius on display there. One stairwell, no central alarm system, no sprinklers, no fire suppression system, instructions to stay inside in case of fire, no fire drills plus the candlewick insulation on the outside. And apparently that situation is pretty common too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsuelm Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Huh.... Does anyone here know to what I refer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsuelm Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) instructions to stay inside in case of fire 'Darwin test' maybe? Edited June 15, 2017 by Valsuelm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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