Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. not sure if I follow It is unconstitutional in Finland to sent anybody back in situation where they most likely end up dead. Still don't follow, how are you going to break it? (BTW you are in military?) I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Not accepting refugees = "likely sending them to die"? Oh lordy. Who decides which situations qualify for "forbids to sent anybody to situation where they most likely end up dead"? People will get refugee status in Finland only if they are most likely to die if they are sent back to their country of origin. Well people in Africa die on daily basis, are you going to move whole Africa to Finland? Or only the lucky one which have enough cash to actually reach Finland? People die daily basis, but most Africans aren't in danger to die daily basis, so they don't qualify for refugee status and will be sent back to their country of origin. Only Somalia is country in Africa where Finland don't sent people back currently. Oh yeah they do, that was my point. Are you sure you are going to send back central africans? http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/malnutrition/by-country/ I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
aluminiumtrioxid Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 The biggest flaw in the notion of a free country is too many jackasses (intentionally used with double meaning) think THEY get to decide what other people are free to do. Fix'd. "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
Drowsy Emperor Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Not accepting refugees = "likely sending them to die"? Oh lordy. Who decides which situations qualify for "forbids to sent anybody to situation where they most likely end up dead"? People will get refugee status in Finland only if they are most likely to die if they are sent back to their country of origin. It is decided by several governmental institutes that interview every asylum seeker and check situation in their home countries. That's not how it works in practice and you know it. Most of the alleged refugees aren't refugees at all, and very few of them were in any sort of immediate danger. Even the legitimate Syrian refugees from Turkish camps, while not in the most pleasant situation - are not in any sort of danger at all. They're just picking a "better option" because they can. It goes without saying that "refugees" from Iran, Kosovo, Turkey, Pakistan are not "refugees" in any sense of the word. Merely migrants hoping to pass themselves off as refugees to get on welfare. Aslyum is a provision under international law that is almost exclusively abused to get residency (and for political dissing). Its also what the current governments in Europe used to let the immigrant flood in, even though its patently obvious that most of the applicants do not fit the bill of asyulm seeker in any shape or form. Also if we're going to start dredging up moral and legal obligations, well that works both ways. The government has an obligation to take care of its citizens, and ****ing them over by dumping a mass of poor foreigners in their neighborhood goes against the spirit of any European constitution. Edited February 21, 2017 by Drowsy Emperor 2 И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно.
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 It seems Trump wasn’t wrong. He just sees future: http://www.thelocal.se/20170221/swedish-press-photographer-assaulted-in-rinkeby-riots like its different anywhere else: http://www.politico.eu/article/theo-paris-riots-over-police-rape-hijack-french-campaign-racism-aulnay-sous-bois/ I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Elerond Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Not accepting refugees = "likely sending them to die"? Oh lordy. Who decides which situations qualify for "forbids to sent anybody to situation where they most likely end up dead"? People will get refugee status in Finland only if they are most likely to die if they are sent back to their country of origin. Well people in Africa die on daily basis, are you going to move whole Africa to Finland? Or only the lucky one which have enough cash to actually reach Finland? People die daily basis, but most Africans aren't in danger to die daily basis, so they don't qualify for refugee status and will be sent back to their country of origin. Only Somalia is country in Africa where Finland don't sent people back currently. Oh yeah they do, that was my point. Are you sure you are going to send back central africans? http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/malnutrition/by-country/ Difficult to say because there isn't any to sent back, so there is no analyse what it means for people that are sent back there. Because all the analyzes are done case by case there isn't general rules. Although war zones and countries like Somalia that don't have stable government are nearly in every case seen too dangerous. Although we return people to Iraq as only parts of the country are considered dangerous, even though it is in state of war.
Elerond Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. not sure if I follow It is unconstitutional in Finland to sent anybody back in situation where they most likely end up dead. Still don't follow, how are you going to break it? (BTW you are in military?) You know that Finland has universal male conscription, and everybody that does their constitutional service in our Defense Force vows to uphold Finland's constitution.
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) Not accepting refugees = "likely sending them to die"? Oh lordy. Who decides which situations qualify for "forbids to sent anybody to situation where they most likely end up dead"? People will get refugee status in Finland only if they are most likely to die if they are sent back to their country of origin. Well people in Africa die on daily basis, are you going to move whole Africa to Finland? Or only the lucky one which have enough cash to actually reach Finland? People die daily basis, but most Africans aren't in danger to die daily basis, so they don't qualify for refugee status and will be sent back to their country of origin. Only Somalia is country in Africa where Finland don't sent people back currently. Oh yeah they do, that was my point. Are you sure you are going to send back central africans? http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/malnutrition/by-country/ Difficult to say because there isn't any to sent back, so there is no analyse what it means for people that are sent back there. Because all the analyzes are done case by case there isn't general rules. Although war zones and countries like Somalia that don't have stable government are nearly in every case seen too dangerous. Although we return people to Iraq as only parts of the country are considered dangerous, even though it is in state of war. What are you talking about? There is tons of countries in Africa which are in war state. South Sudan for example is in war for years, now there is Famine crisis. Every second country in Africa is in constant turmoil... https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/famine-officially-declared-in-south-sudan/2017/02/20/e9700f60-f76a-11e6-aa1e-5f735ee31334_video.html https://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2017/Feb-20/394372-south-sudan-suffering-man-made-famine.ashx Edited February 21, 2017 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. not sure if I follow It is unconstitutional in Finland to sent anybody back in situation where they most likely end up dead. Still don't follow, how are you going to break it? (BTW you are in military?) You know that Finland has universal male conscription, and everybody that does their constitutional service in our Defense Force vows to uphold Finland's constitution. OK, we have abolished that years ago, still don't know how you are supposed to break it, so far it seems you were upholding it... Edited February 21, 2017 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
213374U Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 The government has an obligation to take care of its citizens The law is powerless to *help* you, not punish you — Clancy Wiggum Good luck with your zero immigration idea, btw. The mafias will just up their game. Europe isn't Australia, but even they get illegal immigrants. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Elerond Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Not accepting refugees = "likely sending them to die"? Oh lordy. Who decides which situations qualify for "forbids to sent anybody to situation where they most likely end up dead"? People will get refugee status in Finland only if they are most likely to die if they are sent back to their country of origin. Well people in Africa die on daily basis, are you going to move whole Africa to Finland? Or only the lucky one which have enough cash to actually reach Finland? People die daily basis, but most Africans aren't in danger to die daily basis, so they don't qualify for refugee status and will be sent back to their country of origin. Only Somalia is country in Africa where Finland don't sent people back currently. Oh yeah they do, that was my point. Are you sure you are going to send back central africans? http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/malnutrition/by-country/ Difficult to say because there isn't any to sent back, so there is no analyse what it means for people that are sent back there. Because all the analyzes are done case by case there isn't general rules. Although war zones and countries like Somalia that don't have stable government are nearly in every case seen too dangerous. Although we return people to Iraq as only parts of the country are considered dangerous, even though it is in state of war. What are you talking about? There is tons of countries in Africa which are in war state. South Sudan for example is in war for years, now there is Famine crisis. Every second country in Africa is in constant turmoil... https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/world/famine-officially-declared-in-south-sudan/2017/02/20/e9700f60-f76a-11e6-aa1e-5f735ee31334_video.html https://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2017/Feb-20/394372-south-sudan-suffering-man-made-famine.ashx But there is no asylum seekers from South Sudan in Finland, so I can't say what is the situation there really for people. Especially not when it comes to things like which parts of South Sudan are considered dangerous, what demographics are systemically persecuted on so on. But usually big parts of African countries are safe for majority of their people to live and majority of their people don't even suffer from famine. Also we give billions of Euros to African countries that are suffering from famine so that they would be able to solve their crisis by themselves, meaning that we don't count famine in many case as reason for giving asylum for people, because we count that they can survive with aid that we and other countries give to their country, too bad for them if their government is corrupt and don't give that aid to them.
Malcador Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Not quite tonnes or every second country, it seems, but also out of date anyway https://warisboring.com/these-are-the-wars-that-will-rage-in-africa-in-2016-aa3d792954d5#.7hybwd4yn Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Elerond Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. not sure if I follow It is unconstitutional in Finland to sent anybody back in situation where they most likely end up dead. Still don't follow, how are you going to break it? (BTW you are in military?) You know that Finland has universal male conscription, and everybody that does their constitutional service in our Defense Force vows to uphold Finland's constitution. OK, we have abolished that years ago, still don't know how you are supposed to break it, so far it seems you were upholding it... "Well its your view. I for one would vouch for 40K people from Africa to go back with posibility to die than let anyone from my circle get raped. And I am not ashamed of it. Are you sure about your view on it?" It was answer to this
Guard Dog Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 So, the State of California has decided that since it's such a shame that a beach vacation is so expensive that the low income folks can't afford it, the State will help them out. A new bill has been introduced into the State Assembly to use the tax dollars of hard working folks to subsidize low cost beach vacations for the "poor". Wow What a great place to be poor huh? If you work for the city of San Francisco you can get a free sex change and a trip to the beach, all paid for by your fellow citizens. By the way, isn't there a dam failing in Oroville because they haven't been taking care of it? How's that going? http://www.ocregister.com/articles/beach-743100-beaches-people.html "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. not sure if I follow It is unconstitutional in Finland to sent anybody back in situation where they most likely end up dead. Still don't follow, how are you going to break it? (BTW you are in military?) You know that Finland has universal male conscription, and everybody that does their constitutional service in our Defense Force vows to uphold Finland's constitution. OK, we have abolished that years ago, still don't know how you are supposed to break it, so far it seems you were upholding it... "Well its your view. I for one would vouch for 40K people from Africa to go back with posibility to die than let anyone from my circle get raped. And I am not ashamed of it. Are you sure about your view on it?" It was answer to this I think you make a typo than: I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 21, 2017 Author Posted February 21, 2017 It seems Trump wasn’t wrong. He just sees future: http://www.thelocal.se/20170221/swedish-press-photographer-assaulted-in-rinkeby-riots Trump is always right in the end. That is why he's the god-emperor. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Not quite tonnes or every second country, it seems, but also out of date anyway https://warisboring.com/these-are-the-wars-that-will-rage-in-africa-in-2016-aa3d792954d5#.7hybwd4yn so around 15 countries just in 2015 were in war out of what, 50? and its just one year, there is war every second year either I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 But there is no asylum seekers from South Sudan in Finland, so I can't say what is the situation there really for people. Especially not when it comes to things like which parts of South Sudan are considered dangerous, what demographics are systemically persecuted on so on. But usually big parts of African countries are safe for majority of their people to live and majority of their people don't even suffer from famine. Also we give billions of Euros to African countries that are suffering from famine so that they would be able to solve their crisis by themselves, meaning that we don't count famine in many case as reason for giving asylum for people, because we count that they can survive with aid that we and other countries give to their country, too bad for them if their government is corrupt and don't give that aid to them. Yeah pumping cash to already overgrowing yet starving population worked so far very well xD Also I already mention that to get to EU from these parts of Africa require large amount of cash. That is why you don't have them in a doorway, but it seems it doesn't bother you as far as they are far away I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Malcador Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 Will have to check later but also the level of the conflict matters as well. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Elerond Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. not sure if I follow It is unconstitutional in Finland to sent anybody back in situation where they most likely end up dead. Still don't follow, how are you going to break it? (BTW you are in military?) You know that Finland has universal male conscription, and everybody that does their constitutional service in our Defense Force vows to uphold Finland's constitution. OK, we have abolished that years ago, still don't know how you are supposed to break it, so far it seems you were upholding it... "Well its your view. I for one would vouch for 40K people from Africa to go back with posibility to die than let anyone from my circle get raped. And I am not ashamed of it. Are you sure about your view on it?" It was answer to this I think you make a typo than: I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. So in scenarios where I am either in position to sent 40k people to back in Africa where they are determined to face near certain death or somebody else is in sending them back, which in either cases would be against Finland's constitution, my stance is that I would uphold my country's constitution in best of my ability as I have vowed to do. To my answer it doesn't matter if best of my ability would be actually make decisions about subject or only just protest against decisions that other people are making, because not being against breaking our constitution regardless of fact is it me or somebody else that is breaking it would be against the vow that I have taken, so not to break said vow, it is my duty to be against such action. Did this broader answer help you understand my point or did it make it more difficult for you?
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I think you make a typo than: I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. So in scenarios where I am either in position to sent 40k people to back in Africa where they are determined to face near certain death or somebody else is in sending them back, which in either cases would be against Finland's constitution, my stance is that I would uphold my country's constitution in best of my ability as I have vowed to do. To my answer it doesn't matter if best of my ability would be actually make decisions about subject or only just protest against decisions that other people are making, because not being against breaking our constitution regardless of fact is it me or somebody else that is breaking it would be against the vow that I have taken, so not to break said vow, it is my duty to be against such action. Did this broader answer help you understand my point or did it make it more difficult for you? Jesus man I get it, but you probably is still unable to read that your sentence I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Elerond Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 But there is no asylum seekers from South Sudan in Finland, so I can't say what is the situation there really for people. Especially not when it comes to things like which parts of South Sudan are considered dangerous, what demographics are systemically persecuted on so on. But usually big parts of African countries are safe for majority of their people to live and majority of their people don't even suffer from famine. Also we give billions of Euros to African countries that are suffering from famine so that they would be able to solve their crisis by themselves, meaning that we don't count famine in many case as reason for giving asylum for people, because we count that they can survive with aid that we and other countries give to their country, too bad for them if their government is corrupt and don't give that aid to them. Yeah pumping cash to already overgrowing yet starving population worked so far very well xD Also I already mention that to get to EU from these parts of Africa require large amount of cash. That is why you don't have them in a doorway, but it seems it doesn't bother you as far as they are far away Them not getting in Finland is different question than is it unconstitutional sent them back. There is no constitutional obligation to help people to come in Finland and seek asylum, but if they are here, we have constitutional obligation to make sure that we don't sent them to their death. It is not mater if something bothers me, but what is our constitution and obligations that it put over us. I give every year over 20k Euros for different aid organization that help poor people in Africa and other parts of the world, if that kind information is important to you.
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 21, 2017 Author Posted February 21, 2017 Sanctuary city: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/20/denver-police-release-alien-before-alleged-murder/ "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Elerond Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 I think you make a typo than: I have vowed to uphold my country's constitution and I have now plans to break that vow. So in scenarios where I am either in position to sent 40k people to back in Africa where they are determined to face near certain death or somebody else is in sending them back, which in either cases would be against Finland's constitution, my stance is that I would uphold my country's constitution in best of my ability as I have vowed to do. To my answer it doesn't matter if best of my ability would be actually make decisions about subject or only just protest against decisions that other people are making, because not being against breaking our constitution regardless of fact is it me or somebody else that is breaking it would be against the vow that I have taken, so not to break said vow, it is my duty to be against such action. Did this broader answer help you understand my point or did it make it more difficult for you? Jesus man I get it, but you probably is still unable to read that your sentence Okay I see it has typo, no is now, okay I get it you got me okay
Chilloutman Posted February 21, 2017 Posted February 21, 2017 But there is no asylum seekers from South Sudan in Finland, so I can't say what is the situation there really for people. Especially not when it comes to things like which parts of South Sudan are considered dangerous, what demographics are systemically persecuted on so on. But usually big parts of African countries are safe for majority of their people to live and majority of their people don't even suffer from famine. Also we give billions of Euros to African countries that are suffering from famine so that they would be able to solve their crisis by themselves, meaning that we don't count famine in many case as reason for giving asylum for people, because we count that they can survive with aid that we and other countries give to their country, too bad for them if their government is corrupt and don't give that aid to them. Yeah pumping cash to already overgrowing yet starving population worked so far very well xD Also I already mention that to get to EU from these parts of Africa require large amount of cash. That is why you don't have them in a doorway, but it seems it doesn't bother you as far as they are far away Them not getting in Finland is different question than is it unconstitutional sent them back. There is no constitutional obligation to help people to come in Finland and seek asylum, but if they are here, we have constitutional obligation to make sure that we don't sent them to their death. It is not mater if something bothers me, but what is our constitution and obligations that it put over us. I give every year over 20k Euros for different aid organization that help poor people in Africa and other parts of the world, if that kind information is important to you. that first part is pretty hypocritical if you ask me, but who am I to judge that second, well if it makes you feel better, I don't earn that much in a year, but its hardly any worry for you - and no its not important for me I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
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