Diogo Ribeiro Posted August 23, 2004 Share Posted August 23, 2004 Ok, so today I found myself with some little extra time and decided to waste it. With the announcement of Obsidian handling Neverwinter Nights 2, and with Dungeons and Dragons celebrating 30 years of existence, D&D is once again in the spotlight. But instead of focusing on the present, I thought it might be a nice idea instead to make a post focusing on the lore of all the Dungeons and Dragons titles released solely for the PC in the past. As such, following are a list of D&D-licensed games for the PC, accompanied by links to off-site pages with information for each game. The list isn't an ultimate resource; most information for the older games is hard to find at this point, and it's quite possible I haven't remembered and compiled every game. That's where people can contribute. If you feel there's a good page out there that broadens the scope of the information presented here, or have additional info that's more accurate than what was posted here, post the link and I'll update the master list. Yes, you'll be credited (but not payed, sorry). For the record, I do not take credit nor responsibility for the contents of the following list, or of content in the links presented. The only thing I can be credited with is compiling the list and posting it. **************************************************** P A R T 1 - The Master List **************************************************** Pool of Radiance - 1988 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info The Computer Show info Gamespy info Wikipedia entry Heroes of the Lance - 1988 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: U.S. Gold Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Forgotten Lance info Gamespy info Curse of the Azure Bonds - 1989 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot's info Wikipedia entry Gamespy info Dragons of Flame - 1989 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: U.S. Gold Mobygames info Gamespot info Forgotten Lance info HotU entry Gamespy info Hillsfar - 1989 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Westwood Studios Mobygames info Gamespot info Home of the Underdogs info Gamespy info War of the Lance - 1989 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Forgotten Lance info Gamespy info Secret of the Silver Blades - 1990 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info Gamespy info The Computer Show info DragonStrike - 1990 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Westwood Studios Mobygames info Gamespot info Wikipedia entry HotU entry Forgotten Lance info Gamespy info Champions of Krynn - 1990 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. Mobygames info Gamespot info Forgotten Lance info Gamespy info Eye of the Beholder - 1990 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Westwood Studios Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Wikipedia entry Gamespy info Eye of the Beholder II: The Legend of Darkmoon - 1991 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Westwood Studios Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Shadow Sorcerer - 1991 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: US Gold Mobygames info Gamespot info Forgotten Lance info HotU entry Gamespy info Neverwinter Nights - 1991 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Stormfront Studios Mobygames info HotU entry The Classic Neverwinter Nights Archive Gamespy info Pools of Darkness - 1991 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info Wikipedia entry Gamespy info Gateway to the Savage Frontier - 1991 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Beyond Software Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Death Knights of Krynn - 1991 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info Forgotten Lance info Gamespy info The Dark Queen of Krynn - 1992 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: US Gold Mobygames info Gamespot info Gamespy info Treasures of the Savage Frontier - 1992 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Beyond Software Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Spelljammer: Pirates of Realmspace - 1992 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Cybertech Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Eye of the Beholder III: Assault on Myth Drannor - 1992 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Unlimited Adventures - 1993 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: MicroMagic, Inc. Mobygames info Gamespot info Wikipedia entry HotU entry Gamespy info Fantasy Empires - 1993 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Silicon Knights Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Dark Sun: Shattered Lands - 1993 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Stronghold - 1993 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Stormfront Studios Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Dungeon Hack - 1993 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: DreamForge Intertainment, Inc. Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU info Gamespy info Dark Sun 2: Wake of the Ravager - 1994 Published By: Mindscape Inc., Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Ravenloft: Strahd's Possession - 1994 Published By: Mindscape Inc. Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse - 1994 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. Developed By: Cyberlore Studios, Inc. Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Menzoberranzan - 1994 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: DreamForge Intertainment, Inc. Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Ravenloft: Stone Prophet - 1995 (also known as Ravenloft 2: Stone Prophet) Published By: Mindscape Inc. Developed By: DreamForge Intertainment, Inc., Strategic Simulations, Inc (SSI) Mobygames info Gamespot info HotU entry Gamespy info Deathkeep - 1995 Published By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Lion Entertainment Inc. Mobygames info Gamespot info Gamespot review Gamespy info Blood & Magic - 1996 Published By: Interplay Developed By: Tachyon Studios Mobygames info Gamespot info Gamespot review Gamespy info The Computer Show info Birthright: Gorgon's Alliance - 1996 Published By: Sierra On-Line, Inc. Developed By: Synergistic Software, Inc. Mobygames info Gamespot info Gamespot review Gamespy info The Computer Show info Dark Sun Online: Crimson Sands - 1996 Publisher: Pogo.com Developer: SSI Gamespy info Bring Back DSO page Descent to Undermountain - 1998 Published By: Interplay Productions Developed By: Interplay Productions Mobygames info Gamespot info Gamespot review Gamespy info The Computer Show info Baldur's Gate - 1998 Published By: Black Isle Studios, Interplay Developed By: BioWare Corporation Mobygames info Gamespy info Baldur's Gate in Gamespy's Hall of Fame Gamespot info Gamespot review IGN review Baldur's Gate Centre at Gamebanshee Baldur's Gate Official Site (courtesy of Wayback Machine - Internet Archive) Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast - 1999 Published By: Black Isle Studios, Interplay Entertainment Corporation Developed By: BioWare Corp Mobygames info Gamespot review Gamespy info Tales of the Sword Coast Official Site (courtesy of Wayback Machine - Internet Archive) Planescape: Torment - 1999 Published By: Interplay Developed By: Black Isle Studios Mobygames info HotU info Gamespy info Gamespy review Planescape: Torment on Gamespy's Hall of Fame Gamespot review IGN review Wikipedia entry Planescape: Torment Centre at Gamebanshee Planescape: Torment Official Site (courtesy of Wayback Machine - Internet Archive) Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn - 2000 Published By: Interplay Developed By: BioWare Corporation Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespy review Gamespot review IGN review Baldur's Gate 2 Centre at Gamebanshee Wikipedia info on the Baldur's Gate series (contains spoilers) Planet Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn Official Site (courtesy of Wayback Machine - Internet Archive) Icewind Dale - 2000 Published By: Interplay Developed By: Black Isle Studios Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespy review Gamespot review IGN review Icewind Dale Centre at Gamebanshee Icewind Dale Official Site (courtesy of Wayback Machine - Internet Archive) Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor - 2001 Published By: UbiSoft Entertainment Developed By: Stormfront Studios Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespy review Gamespot review IGN review Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor Centre at Gamebanshee Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor Official Site Baldur's Gate 2 - Throne of Bhaal - 2001 Published By: Interplay Developed By: BioWare Corp Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespy review Gamespot review IGN review Baldur's Gate 2 - Throne of Bhaal Official Site (courtesy of Wayback Machine - Internet Archive) Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter - 2001 Published By: Interplay Developed By: Black Isle Studios Mobygame info Gamespy info Gamespy review Gamespot review IGN review Trials of the Luremaster - 2001 Published By: Interplay Developed By: Black Isle Studios Mobygames infoIcewind Dale 2 - 2002 Published By: Interplay Developed By: Black Isle Studios Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespot review IGN review RPG Codex review Icewind Dale 2 Centre at Gamebanshee Icewind Dale 2 Official Site (courtesy of Wayback Machine - Internet Archive) Wikipedia entry for the Icewind Dale series Neverwinter Nights - 2002 Published By: Infogrames Developed By: BioWare Corporation Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespy review IGN review Gamespot review RPG Codex review Neverwinter Nights Centre at Gamebanshee Neverwinter Nights Official Site Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide - 2003 Published By: Atari Developed By: BioWare Corp, Floodgate, Rustmonkey Productions Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespy review Gamespot review IGN review Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark - 2003 Published By: Atari, Inc. Developed By: BioWare Corp, Floodgate Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespy review Gamespot review IGN review The Temple of Elemental Evil: A Classic Greyhawk Adventure - 2003 Published By: Atari Developed By: Troika Games Mobygames info Gamespy info Gamespot review IGN review RPG Codex review Temple of Elemental Evil Centre at Gamebanshee The Temple of Elemental Evil Official Page **************************************************** P A R T 2 - How to acquire the older D&D games? **************************************************** Older D&D games are, obviously, no longer in production. Rare bids on places like Ebay or special editions that compile several of these games are the best options. Regarding compilations, there are only three D&D compilations that I know of that compile D&D-only PC games: 1) Fantasy Fest! - 1994 (?) Published By: Mindscape Inc., Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Developed By: Several (DreamForge Intertainment, Inc., MicroMagic, Inc., Silicon Knights, Stormfront Studios) Includes: Dungeon Hack Unlimited Adventures Fantasy Empires Stronghold 2) Advanced Dungeons & Dragons Masterpiece Collection - 1996 Published By: Mindscape Inc. Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Includes: The Dark Sun Series:Dark Sun: Shattered Lands Dark SUn: Wake of the Ravager [*]The Ravenloft Series: Ravenloft: Strahd's Possession Ravenloft: Stone Prophet [*]Menzoberranzan [*]Al-Qadim: The Genie's Curse 3) The Forgotten Realms Archive - Silver Edition - 1997 Published By: Interplay Developed By: Strategic Simulations, Inc. (SSI) Includes: The Pool of Radiance Series:Pool of Radiance Pools of Darkness [*]The Eye of the Beholder Series: Eye of the Beholder Eye of the Beholder II: The Legend of Darkmoon Eye of the Beholder III: Assault on Myth Drannor [*]The Savage Frontier Series: Gateway to the Savage Frontier Treasures of the Savage Frontier [*]Menzoberanzan [*]And a demo of Baldur's Gate (*) (*)Reportedly, some versions have a demo of Blood & Magic. Fantasy Fest! is currently available in this Ebay page, and Advanced Dungeons and Dragons Masterpiece Collection can currently be found in this Amazon page, and in this CD Access page (for those interested, CD Access now has 100 copies stocked). I have no idea where the Forgotten Realms Archive - Silver Edition can be bought at this time. Possibly, it's not available anymore. However, there is a compilation called Gamefest: Forgotten Realms Classics, released in 2001, which has all the Silver Edition games, and the Baldur's Gate demo. More information on the Gamefest: Forgotten Realms Classics can be found at this page in Mobygames. The game is currently sold at Amazon.com, but there are very few copies. It can be located at this Amazon.com page. **************************************************** P A R T 3 - Additional Information **************************************************** 1) Some of the links above take you to mirrors of the original sites. Interplay's site, for instance, doesn't exist anymore, along with sites for games like Icewind Dale or Planescape: Torment. The Wayback Machine is a site that basically keeps mirrors of existing sites, in an attempt to preserve their information. It should be noted that via the Wayback Machine you'll be able to access Interplay's old site, but things like ordering games online from it are still impossible, as the site itself is down. 2) The purpose of the list is to basically give information regarding the games in it. Things such as links to patches or updates, in theory, are beyond the scope of the list. 3) I am aware that some of the sites I have linked to may contain abandonware versions of the games in the list, or versions that may not be legal. My intention was to provide several sources of information, not to provide links which would direct people to sites which could be perceived as illegal, or that could carry illegal content. Simply put, I am not in favor of piracy (though I'm not adverse to saying aarr, matey!), and do not support downloading any illegal file from those, or any other, sites. You are at your own risk by doing so. Don't download those files, and don't use Dosbox to run them. 4) Remembering and discussing these games (specially the older ones) and these articles is good; starting to bicker because of them, or because of how they are exposed on these articles is not isn't. Try to keep it civil without resorting to trolling and flaming simply because of different tastes. **************************************************** P A R T 4 - Main Sources and Additional Links **************************************************** Mobygames - A large videogame database. Gamespot - Videogame coverage. IGN - Videogame coverage. Gamespot's History of Dungeons and Dragons Videogames - History of Dungeons and Dragons videogames. Currently incomplete (only up to Baldur's Gate). Gamespy's History of Dungeons and Dragons videogames ~Role-Player, 23/08/2004 UPDATES: *23/08/2004: -Pope rectified the Trials of the Luremaster release date. -Added Gamespy reviews for: Icewind Dale, Shadows of Amn, Throne of Bhaal, Ruins of Myth Drannor, Planescape: Torment, Neverwinter Nights, NWN: Shadows of Undrentide, NWN: Hordes of the Underdark, and IWD: Heart of Winter. -Added entry of Dark Sun Online. -Added another location to buy the AD&D Masterpiece Collection. *27/08/2004: -Added RPG Codex reviews for: Icewind Dale 2, Neverwinter Nights, and Temple of Elemental Evil. -Llamagod gave the information regarding the existence of the Gamefest: Forgotten Realms Classics compilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionavar Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Post pruned and returned to general circulation. The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 That is...impressive. Quite a post, no matter the time it must have taken. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I had no idea there was a much earlier "Neverwinter Nights" game. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 Awesome NecroRessurection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishboot Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 I remember getting a Wizardworks collection CD in the mid 90's that had: The Forgotten Realms Gold Box games The Dragonlance Gold Box games The "Savage Frontier" Gold Box games It was a single gold-labelled CD. and then a few years after that another Wizardworks collection that was essentially everything SSI put out in the D&D license, from Hillsfar to the terrible first person games. It was 3-4 black-labelled CDs. Unfortunately I've lost both of these, but I've bought the gold box games about, oh, four times now, so... ahem. Wish I had an Amiga for them, though. Wizardworks was a shovelware publisher at the time (they were best known for stealing tons of homemade Doom and Warcraft II levels off of the internet and selling about a billion of them on a CD), now purchased by Infogrames/Atari and probably used to publish deer hunter games. Don't get me wrong - they certainly filled a niche, which kept abandonware games just this side of unabandoned, and I loved them for it. I can't find either of these collections anywhere in a cursory search of the usual suspects (eBay, Amazon), though. As far as the original Neverwinter Nights game, it was a pretty fun AOL MMORPG using the Gold Box interface. It was actually great fun, but that was when AOL charged outrageous hourly prices and it wasn't really feasible to get into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 That's quite the list. Admittedly I haven't played any of those prior to BG in 1998. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKing Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 That's quite the list. Admittedly I haven't played any of those prior to BG in 1998. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I must really be old - I've played almost all of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogo Ribeiro Posted June 24, 2005 Author Share Posted June 24, 2005 I'd like to thank Fionavar for solving the mystery of this thread's removal. It's back up now, and will be updated when I find the time and additional info. It will definetely be updated when more Neverwinter Nights 2 info comes out. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 I must really be old - I've played almost all of them! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm probably as old (or older) than you, but I just wasn't interested in this type of gaming until actually around 2000. Since then I've played all those games on the list from 1998 on, but never had the urge to go back further. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baley Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 This brings back memories Nice list... I used to have a big CD with all of the older games(before the copyright time).... Ah the memories.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 That is ... an impressive feat of research, scholarship and writing! (Aside: so that's where Fionavar has been lately, editing RolePayer's post!) I was about to add the Wizardries, when I realised you said "PC" ... AFAIK Wizardry 1, 2 & 3 were only released on the Apple ][, but I might be wrong ... certainly you don't have the recent Wizardy titles there ... OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 This should be stickied so it doesn't get lost. A lot of helpful links. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 25, 2005 Share Posted June 25, 2005 [, but I might be wrong ... certainly you don't have the recent Wizardy titles there ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> also said D&D, which the wizardry games are not... the first three were also available on the C64, IIRC. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 So Ultima is out as well then. :D OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 yup... i suppose somebody could get crazy and create a list of fantasy crpgs, which would include even the bard's tales, might and magics, D&Ds, etc... taks PS: that would not be me, btw... comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Oh, a full list of all fantasy rpgs ever released? I'd really pity the author of that list. Bloody lot of work. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKing Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I was about to add the Wizardries, when I realised you said "PC" ... AFAIK Wizardy 1, 2 & 3 were only released on the Apple ][, but I might be wrong ... certainly you don't have the recent Wizardy titles there ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All Wizardry titles were also made available on the IBM compatible format. They were never available for the C64, but the Bard's Tale series (quite similar games) were. You could even import Wizardry and Ultima characters into the original Bard's Tale game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 And technically C64s and Apple ][ computers were PCs, even if they weren't IBM Compatible PCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 ) OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 bump since it's not stickied... however, i would not refer to a C64 as a PC as it was not a complete system. it had no OS, and only a small amount of RAM (no HD, no floppy, etc.). taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderAndrew Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Early PCs didn't always have an OS. Either way, it's a personal computer. There were word processors, spreadsheets and the like for the C64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 IBM PCs did.... they all ran on DOS (disk operating system). any of the previous kit computers would not be PCs by my definition, either, nor such things as the atari 2600. C64 was certainly a computer, just not a PC in the sense i refer to them. but oh do i miss my days with the C64! taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Please, cleanse this of other posts and sticky it. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 IBM PCs did.... they all ran on DOS (disk operating system). any of the previous kit computers would not be PCs by my definition, either, nor such things as the atari 2600. C64 was certainly a computer, just not a PC in the sense i refer to them. but oh do i miss my days with the C64! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have little time for the C64 ... poor relative to the grand Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs' Apple ][, complete with 48kB main memory, and 16kB language card (additional memory). DOS was loaded via the floppy drive into the (1MHz?) 6502 8-bit processor. (The IBM PC was 16 bit.) Anyone remember the Beagle Bros? Of course, my first computer experience was the school's Challenger 1P, which had 1kB of RAM (but there were a couple that had expanded RAM of 4kB). Then my university had one of the first computers in the world, it was still on display and functioning: card readers! Anyway, back on topic: I had about 400 360kB 5.25" diskettes of games for the Apple ][, including all the Infocom adventures and many, many arcade and adventure games. There is no way I could even name all the Fantasy games on the Apple, even with my old catalogue ... OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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