Hurlshort Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I just saw some news about Democrats convention. Where there really an ILLEGAL immigrant on the stage? Wow, just wow. Talking about disregard for law. What's next? Criminals? Gangsters? Where were the immigration police? Are Democrats really think they are above the law? Immigration police? So, just a reminder, being in the US without proper documentation is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastur Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I don't see immigration policy as punitive so much as safety. No rational person can think that a nation is secure without the command of its borders. No country should be expected to invite people into its borders who agitate against its interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) The immigration police have been ordered to not only not remove illegals, but to assist them in getting to their destination of choice within the US. Edited July 28, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgambit Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I just saw some news about Democrats convention. Where there really an ILLEGAL immigrant on the stage? Wow, just wow. Talking about disregard for law. What's next? Criminals? Gangsters? Where were the immigration police? Are Democrats really think they are above the law? Immigration police? So, just a reminder, being in the US without proper documentation is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense. BEING in the US without proper documentation is a civil offense, true. ENTERING the US illegally is both criminal AND civil. See Title 8, Section 1325 of the U.S. Code (U.S.C.), or Section 275 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) for the exact statutory language http://www.uscis.gov/laws/immigration-and-nationality-act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Why is West Virginia overwhelmingly red but Clinton up in Virginia? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Are Democrats really think they are above the law? HRC is their nominee. What do you think? Proportional representation. You know you want it.We don't want it. 4-5 viable parties would be enough. So, tell me. Did you ever think about why there are only two viable parties? "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 There are many political parties here.They are still all utter crap. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Apparently Trump just asked Putin for help with Clinton's emails, during a press conference. We're not in Kansas anymore? Hilarious. Snowden actually commented and stated that if Russia were responsible, the US government would know and it wouldn't be "speculation," suggesting (big surprise) Russia isn't behind this. Trump believing the very media rigged in Hillary's favor is priceless though. An aside, but the faith in Snowden's anything is sort of funny. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I just saw some news about Democrats convention. Where there really an ILLEGAL immigrant on the stage? Wow, just wow. Talking about disregard for law. What's next? Criminals? Gangsters? Where were the immigration police? Are Democrats really think they are above the law? Immigration police? So, just a reminder, being in the US without proper documentation is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense. BEING in the US without proper documentation is a civil offense, true. ENTERING the US illegally is both criminal AND civil. See Title 8, Section 1325 of the U.S. Code (U.S.C.), or Section 275 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) for the exact statutory language http://www.uscis.gov/laws/immigration-and-nationality-act Yes, but not everyone enters illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 But.. when people talk about illegal immigrants.. theya rne't talking about legal ones.. so what's your point? 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I just saw some news about Democrats convention. Where there really an ILLEGAL immigrant on the stage? Wow, just wow. Talking about disregard for law. What's next? Criminals? Gangsters? Where were the immigration police? Are Democrats really think they are above the law? Immigration police? So, just a reminder, being in the US without proper documentation is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense. BEING in the US without proper documentation is a civil offense, true. ENTERING the US illegally is both criminal AND civil. See Title 8, Section 1325 of the U.S. Code (U.S.C.), or Section 275 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) for the exact statutory language http://www.uscis.gov/laws/immigration-and-nationality-act Yes, but not everyone enters illegally. I have understood that majority of illegals come in USA legally, as tourists, students or workers, but don't leave after their residence visa ends. Which is why so called experts don't think that fences or walls are effective way to solve illegal immigration issue. EDIT: Although wikipedia's infallible article tells that about 6-7 million of US's illegal immigrants have illegally entered the country and about 5.5 million of illegal immigrants have overstayed their visa. Edited July 28, 2016 by Elerond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Why is West Virginia overwhelmingly red but Clinton up in Virginia?West Virginia and Virginia are completely different. In fact West Virginia was formed because they didn't want to leave the Union during the Civil War. West Virginia has a lot of coal miners, Virginia has a lot of government employees who live in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. Are Democrats really think they are above the law? HRC is their nominee. What do you think? Proportional representation. You know you want it.We don't want it. 4-5 viable parties would be enough. So, tell me. Did you ever think about why there are only two viable parties? Because it's winner take all. Voting for a third party simply means you're hurting the major party you're ideologically closest to. The best way to fix it is with run-off elections, that should give us 4-5 viable parties that would be optimal. I have understood that majority of illegals come in USA legally, as tourists, students or workers, but don't leave after their residence visa ends. Which is why so called experts don't think that fences or walls are effective way to solve illegal immigration issue.Last I heard, 60% go over the border. You'd need both a fence and someone to go looking for visa overstays. Right now we're doing neither. Edited July 28, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgambit Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I just saw some news about Democrats convention. Where there really an ILLEGAL immigrant on the stage? Wow, just wow. Talking about disregard for law. What's next? Criminals? Gangsters? Where were the immigration police? Are Democrats really think they are above the law? Immigration police? So, just a reminder, being in the US without proper documentation is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense. BEING in the US without proper documentation is a civil offense, true. ENTERING the US illegally is both criminal AND civil. See Title 8, Section 1325 of the U.S. Code (U.S.C.), or Section 275 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) for the exact statutory language http://www.uscis.gov/laws/immigration-and-nationality-act Yes, but not everyone enters illegally. And I never claimed that everyone did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 3 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgambit Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) I just saw some news about Democrats convention. Where there really an ILLEGAL immigrant on the stage? Wow, just wow. Talking about disregard for law. What's next? Criminals? Gangsters? Where were the immigration police? Are Democrats really think they are above the law? Immigration police? So, just a reminder, being in the US without proper documentation is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense. BEING in the US without proper documentation is a civil offense, true. ENTERING the US illegally is both criminal AND civil. See Title 8, Section 1325 of the U.S. Code (U.S.C.), or Section 275 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (I.N.A.) for the exact statutory language http://www.uscis.gov/laws/immigration-and-nationality-act Yes, but not everyone enters illegally. I have understood that majority of illegals come in USA legally, as tourists, students or workers, but don't leave after their residence visa ends. Which is why so called experts don't think that fences or walls are effective way to solve illegal immigration issue. EDIT: Although wikipedia's infallible article tells that about 6-7 million of US's illegal immigrants have illegally entered the country and about 5.5 million of illegal immigrants have overstayed their visa. Here's the breakdown I've read: ~40% enter legally and overstay visas; ~60% enter illegally Edited July 28, 2016 by kgambit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) @Gorth If there are better people out there, they should've run Edited July 28, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon 1 "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastur Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I kind of wish Johnson would win. I remember Dukakis running against Bush and the many 'clever' jokes people made about the election. Yeah, it was puerile stuff, and you felt kinda guilty laughing at it, but it made it fun. Just think of a race with Bernie versus Johnson... "Did your Johnson feel the Bern?" If someone attacked us, we'd "Give 'em the Johnson treatment." Okay, probably not funny, but even lame jokes can be good when times are dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Noticed looking at past election maps that the tail/appendix of Texas is wholly blue in an otherwise red state. Why's that? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Last I heard, 60% go over the border. You'd need both a fence and someone to go looking for visa overstays. Right now we're doing neither. And yet the immigration numbers have levelled off... http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Noticed looking at past election maps that the tail/appendix of Texas is wholly blue in an otherwise red state. Why's that?You mean the panhandle? I doubt that's true. The Mexico border area certainly is though. Last I heard, 60% go over the border. You'd need both a fence and someone to go looking for visa overstays. Right now we're doing neither. And yet the immigration numbers have levelled off... http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/ Establishment lies. It might have leveled off in the worst recession years, but not overall. They've claimed the same number of illegals for over a decade now, who can believe such garbage? Edit: http://cis.org/New-Data-Immigration-Surged-in-2014-and-2015 And even that's based on manipulated government statistics, there is no objective unbiased data. Edited July 28, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Hey, whatever is convenient for your narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longknife Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Apparently Trump just asked Putin for help with Clinton's emails, during a press conference. We're not in Kansas anymore? Hilarious. Snowden actually commented and stated that if Russia were responsible, the US government would know and it wouldn't be "speculation," suggesting (big surprise) Russia isn't behind this. Trump believing the very media rigged in Hillary's favor is priceless though. An aside, but the faith in Snowden's anything is sort of funny. Please explain what reason anyone has to distrust anything said by Snowden. The man got in trouble because he showed integrity and transparency when the government did not. "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Apparently Trump just asked Putin for help with Clinton's emails, during a press conference. We're not in Kansas anymore? Hilarious. Snowden actually commented and stated that if Russia were responsible, the US government would know and it wouldn't be "speculation," suggesting (big surprise) Russia isn't behind this. Trump believing the very media rigged in Hillary's favor is priceless though. An aside, but the faith in Snowden's anything is sort of funny. Please explain what reason anyone has to distrust anything said by Snowden. The man got in trouble because he showed integrity and transparency when the government did not. Snowden is like Assange but even worse because he actually worked for the NSA, he betrayed his country to reveal secretive programs like Prism. And conviniently ended up travelling through China and ended up in Russia and you can be guaranteed he shared everything he could with both those countries But I'm glad Prism is now revealed, it should be used to address domestic terrorist attacks from home grown terrorism "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 But I'm glad Prism is now revealed, it should be used to address domestic terrorist attacks from home grown terrorism Wait a second...didn't the Obsidian think tank determine that PRISM is useless and you have a better chance getting hit by a booger flicked by a Bigfoot than you do catching a mook with PRISM? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 6 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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