US Election 2016

[BruceVC]

After tomorrow night, the Democratic race is pretty much over. Barring a major catastrophe, Bernie Sanders will have no viable path to win the nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-democratic/

 

Trump will win NY but it'll still be a major uphill climb for him to secure the 1237 delegates to clinch a Republican nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-republican/

The sooner we can  focus and support Hilary as the only  Democrat candidate the better

 

I dont mind the Republicans tearing themselves apart with these personal attacks and vitriol against  each other but I dont like to see the Democrats doing it....yes I know it sounds naive as Democratic candidates aren't these perfect people but I still feel politics doesnt have to be so.....vituperative, like the Republican candidacy race  has been 

[Meshugger]

Huh, Bernie polling up to 40% in NY, that was quite unexpected.

 

Haha, Cruz is behind Kasich in NY (Trump is the clear favourite because of obvious reasons).

Edited April 19, 2016 by Meshugger

[Leferd]

 

After tomorrow night, the Democratic race is pretty much over. Barring a major catastrophe, Bernie Sanders will have no viable path to win the nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-democratic/

 

Trump will win NY but it'll still be a major uphill climb for him to secure the 1237 delegates to clinch a Republican nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-republican/

 

The sooner we can  focus and support Hilary as the only  Democrat candidate the better

 

I dont mind the Republicans tearing themselves apart with these personal attacks and vitriol against  each other but I dont like to see the Democrats doing it....yes I know it sounds naive as Democratic candidates aren't these perfect people but I still feel politics doesnt have to be so.....vituperative, like the Republican candidacy race  has been

That's overblown. This year's Democratic race has been pretty tame. Even when compared to Obama - Clinton in 08, which was more competitive and with nastier attacks on each other. And keep in mind that these were two "establishment" democrats Democrats with sophisticated campaigns going at it.

 

'16 is the year of anti-establishment uprisings where the nut job Tea Partier is now considered the "sane" choice for the Republicans. In any other year, Ted Cruz would be considered the least electable major party candidate of the modern era...except that Trump ha him beat on that.

 

On paper, this should be an easy November victory for Clinton. She just has to play it safe and go through the motions and not take Sanders' socialistic bait through the California primary. She'll secure the party base by either doubling down with Elizabeth Warren...or more likely selecting Julian Castro to be her running mate/VP. Obama, Biden, and Sanders will give the standard party unification speeches at the Convention and Bill Clinton will give the keynote prior to introducing Hillary when she formally accepts the nomination. All the while, convention goers will snicker with glee at the dysfunction of the Republican Party.

 

Anybody in Ireland betting on anything other than a November Clinton victory is just throwing dead money around.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Hillary "goysplains" to Bernie over Israel

[Meshugger]

Hillary "goysplains" to Bernie over Israel

 

Sometimes things become so absurd that the only thing left is to laugh hysterically.

[Valsuelm]

 

 

After tomorrow night, the Democratic race is pretty much over. Barring a major catastrophe, Bernie Sanders will have no viable path to win the nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-democratic/

 

Trump will win NY but it'll still be a major uphill climb for him to secure the 1237 delegates to clinch a Republican nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-republican/

The sooner we can  focus and support Hilary as the only  Democrat candidate the better

 

I dont mind the Republicans tearing themselves apart with these personal attacks and vitriol against  each other but I dont like to see the Democrats doing it....yes I know it sounds naive as Democratic candidates aren't these perfect people but I still feel politics doesnt have to be so.....vituperative, like the Republican candidacy race  has been

That's overblown. This year's Democratic race has been pretty tame. Even when compared to Obama - Clinton in 08, which was more competitive and with nastier attacks on each other. And keep in mind that these were two "establishment" democrats Democrats with sophisticated campaigns going at it.

 

'16 is the year of anti-establishment uprisings where the nut job Tea Partier is now considered the "sane" choice for the Republicans. In any other year, Ted Cruz would be considered the least electable major party candidate of the modern era...except that Trump ha him beat on that.

 

On paper, this should be an easy November victory for Clinton. She just has to play it safe and go through the motions and not take Sanders' socialistic bait through the California primary. She'll secure the party base by either doubling down with Elizabeth Warren...or more likely selecting Julian Castro to be her running mate/VP. Obama, Biden, and Sanders will give the standard party unification speeches at the Convention and Bill Clinton will give the keynote prior to introducing Hillary when she formally accepts the nomination. All the while, convention goers will snicker with glee at the dysfunction of the Republican Party.

 

Anybody in Ireland betting on anything other than a November Clinton victory is just throwing dead money around.

 

 

Bernie is kind of a wimp. He doesn't dig into Clinton near as much as he could and should. Which leads some credence to the theory he's just a stooge candidate to make it look like there was a contest (I personally think he's legit, just naive).

 

Trump is more than likely the Republican nominee, even without the 1237 at this point. The RNC has already begun to publicly float the possibility they will make him the nominee if he falls short of the number, which indicates they are conceding the nomination to him, which they are smart to do if they want to RNC to continue to exist. Nominating anyone else but Trump at this point would be the suicide of the Republican party.

 

Your prediction on Clinton winning is way off, which isn't surprising since you think 'tea-partiers' are nut jobs. She isn't going to secure much of the party base at all. There has not been a more hated politician in the field in my lifetime, and I can't think of a candidate from history that was more hated either, both by the opposition as well as by a significant number of people within her own party. A lot of Bernie supporters will not be voting for her, a lot of democrats will be voting for Trump, relatively very few true independents will go her way, and you'll have better luck finding needles in haystacks than finding a Republican voting for Hillary.

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will. Clinton would probably beat any other red candidate that hasn't withdrawn, but she is going to get housed by Trump. It's going to be the largest victory margin since '84. The best Hillary will get with the electoral college is pretty much what the Dems got in '04 minus New York, as New York is definitely going for Trump (the first time it's gone red since '84). And also more than likely minus New Hampshire and Maine. California will be a battle state, but Trump won't need it to win.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Leferd]

 

 

 

 

After tomorrow night, the Democratic race is pretty much over. Barring a major catastrophe, Bernie Sanders will have no viable path to win the nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-democratic/

 

Trump will win NY but it'll still be a major uphill climb for him to secure the 1237 delegates to clinch a Republican nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-republican/

The sooner we can focus and support Hilary as the only Democrat candidate the better

 

I dont mind the Republicans tearing themselves apart with these personal attacks and vitriol against each other but I dont like to see the Democrats doing it....yes I know it sounds naive as Democratic candidates aren't these perfect people but I still feel politics doesnt have to be so.....vituperative, like the Republican candidacy race has been

That's overblown. This year's Democratic race has been pretty tame. Even when compared to Obama - Clinton in 08, which was more competitive and with nastier attacks on each other. And keep in mind that these were two "establishment" democrats Democrats with sophisticated campaigns going at it.

 

'16 is the year of anti-establishment uprisings where the nut job Tea Partier is now considered the "sane" choice for the Republicans. In any other year, Ted Cruz would be considered the least electable major party candidate of the modern era...except that Trump ha him beat on that.

 

On paper, this should be an easy November victory for Clinton. She just has to play it safe and go through the motions and not take Sanders' socialistic bait through the California primary. She'll secure the party base by either doubling down with Elizabeth Warren...or more likely selecting Julian Castro to be her running mate/VP. Obama, Biden, and Sanders will give the standard party unification speeches at the Convention and Bill Clinton will give the keynote prior to introducing Hillary when she formally accepts the nomination. All the while, convention goers will snicker with glee at the dysfunction of the Republican Party.

 

Anybody in Ireland betting on anything other than a November Clinton victory is just throwing dead money around.

Bernie is kind of a wimp. He doesn't dig into Clinton near as much as he could and should. Which leads some credence to the theory he's just a stooge candidate to make it look like there was a contest (I personally think he's legit, just naive).

 

Trump is more than likely the Republican nominee, even without the 1237 at this point. The RNC has already begun to publicly float the possibility they will make him the nominee if he falls short of the number, which they are smart to do as if they don't the RNC is toast.

 

Your prediction on Clinton winning is way off, which isn't surprising since you think 'tea-parties' are nut jobs. She isn't going to secure much of the party base at all. There has not been a more hated politician in the field in my lifetime, and I can't think of a candidate from history that was more hated either, both by the opposition as well as by a significant number of people within her own party. A lot of Bernie supporters will not be voting for her, a lot of democrats will be voting for Trump, and you'll have better luck finding needles in haystacks than finding a Republican or even many true independents voting for Hillary.

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will. Clinton would beat any other red candidate that hasn't withdrawn, but she going to get housed by Trump. It's going to be the largest victory margin since '84.

I'd like to see you tangibly back this up. Wanna put a a friendly -non monetary- wager on that? We're talking about Clinton v Trump, of course.

[Valsuelm]

 

 

 

 

After tomorrow night, the Democratic race is pretty much over. Barring a major catastrophe, Bernie Sanders will have no viable path to win the nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-democratic/

 

Trump will win NY but it'll still be a major uphill climb for him to secure the 1237 delegates to clinch a Republican nomination.

 

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-york-republican/

The sooner we can focus and support Hilary as the only Democrat candidate the better

 

I dont mind the Republicans tearing themselves apart with these personal attacks and vitriol against each other but I dont like to see the Democrats doing it....yes I know it sounds naive as Democratic candidates aren't these perfect people but I still feel politics doesnt have to be so.....vituperative, like the Republican candidacy race has been

That's overblown. This year's Democratic race has been pretty tame. Even when compared to Obama - Clinton in 08, which was more competitive and with nastier attacks on each other. And keep in mind that these were two "establishment" democrats Democrats with sophisticated campaigns going at it.

 

'16 is the year of anti-establishment uprisings where the nut job Tea Partier is now considered the "sane" choice for the Republicans. In any other year, Ted Cruz would be considered the least electable major party candidate of the modern era...except that Trump ha him beat on that.

 

On paper, this should be an easy November victory for Clinton. She just has to play it safe and go through the motions and not take Sanders' socialistic bait through the California primary. She'll secure the party base by either doubling down with Elizabeth Warren...or more likely selecting Julian Castro to be her running mate/VP. Obama, Biden, and Sanders will give the standard party unification speeches at the Convention and Bill Clinton will give the keynote prior to introducing Hillary when she formally accepts the nomination. All the while, convention goers will snicker with glee at the dysfunction of the Republican Party.

 

Anybody in Ireland betting on anything other than a November Clinton victory is just throwing dead money around.

Bernie is kind of a wimp. He doesn't dig into Clinton near as much as he could and should. Which leads some credence to the theory he's just a stooge candidate to make it look like there was a contest (I personally think he's legit, just naive).

 

Trump is more than likely the Republican nominee, even without the 1237 at this point. The RNC has already begun to publicly float the possibility they will make him the nominee if he falls short of the number, which they are smart to do as if they don't the RNC is toast.

 

Your prediction on Clinton winning is way off, which isn't surprising since you think 'tea-parties' are nut jobs. She isn't going to secure much of the party base at all. There has not been a more hated politician in the field in my lifetime, and I can't think of a candidate from history that was more hated either, both by the opposition as well as by a significant number of people within her own party. A lot of Bernie supporters will not be voting for her, a lot of democrats will be voting for Trump, and you'll have better luck finding needles in haystacks than finding a Republican or even many true independents voting for Hillary.

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will. Clinton would beat any other red candidate that hasn't withdrawn, but she going to get housed by Trump. It's going to be the largest victory margin since '84.

I'd like to see you tangibly back this up. Wanna put a a friendly -non monetary- wager on that? We're talking about Clinton v Trump, of course.

 

 

Sure, what do you have in mind?

[Leferd]

Good man.

 

If Trumps beats Clinton --from the period beginning the day after the General Election through the day of Inauguration, I will "like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of your brilliance/righteousness for each of your posts covering said time period. You will do the same for each one of mine if Clinton defeats Trump.

 

Sound good to you? If nothing else- hilarity will ensue.

 

Maybe have one of our resident lawyers --Gromnir or Amentep --come up with the legalese of the terms of our agreement?

[Namutree]

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will. 

Bernie would have decimated Trump.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Namutree

[Valsuelm]

 

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will. 

Bernie would have decimated Trump.

 

 

I do think he'd have had a serious chance, and frankly that's the election I would prefer to see, but it wouldn't have been a decimation.

[Namutree]

 

 

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will. 

Bernie would have decimated Trump.

 

 

it wouldn't have been a decimation.

 

We'll have to agree to disagree then.

[Valsuelm]

Good man.

 

If Trumps beats Clinton --from the period beginning the day after the General Election through the day of Inauguration, I will "like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of your brilliance/righteousness for each of your posts covering said time period. You will do the same for each one of mine if Clinton defeats Trump.

 

Sound good to you? If nothing else- hilarity will ensue.

 

Maybe have one of our resident lawyers --Gromnir or Amentep --come up with the legalese of the terms of our agreement?

 

Haha!!

 

Sure, it will be amusing no doubt.

 

The only possible potential issue with this that I can think of is it might become hard (my free time may become very limited around the holidays for example) for the loser to keep up, depending on how prolific the winning poster is.

 

Perhaps we can set up minimum guidelines. ie: ""like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of the other's brilliance/righteousness for at each of their posts covering said time period. If the winner is especially prolific the loser will only be expected to do this for a minimum average of 2 posts per day".

 

Note: I'm no fan of Gromnir, he's the only person I have on ignore in any forum anywhere, largely because of the insane ogrespeak. I will however have no problems with him drawing something up if he wishes so long as it's not in ogrespeak, and actually in sane and clearly legible English. I doubt he will want to do that, I'm just throwing this out there since his name came up.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Valsuelm

[BruceVC]

 

Good man.

 

If Trumps beats Clinton --from the period beginning the day after the General Election through the day of Inauguration, I will "like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of your brilliance/righteousness for each of your posts covering said time period. You will do the same for each one of mine if Clinton defeats Trump.

 

Sound good to you? If nothing else- hilarity will ensue.

 

Maybe have one of our resident lawyers --Gromnir or Amentep --come up with the legalese of the terms of our agreement?

 

Haha!!

 

Sure, it will be amusing no doubt.

 

The only possible potential issue with this that I can think of is it might become hard (my free time may become very limited around the holidays for example) for the loser to keep up, depending on how prolific the winning poster is.

 

Perhaps we can set up minimum guidelines. ie: ""like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of the other's brilliance/righteousness for at each of their posts covering said time period. If the winner is especially prolific the loser will only be expected to do this for a minimum average of 2 posts per day".

 

Note: I'm no fan of Gromnir, he's the only person I have on ignore in any forum anywhere, largely because of the insane ogrespeak. I will however have no problems with him drawing something up if he wishes so long as it's not in ogrespeak, and actually in sane and clearly legible English. I doubt he will want to do that, I'm just throwing this out there since his name came up.

 

Vals...you cant be serious ...you cant seriously think Trump will beat Clinton..... he has NO chance,  if I use some hyperbole its like a clash of different cultures and civilizations, its very exciting and unique but also relevant and  resonates and influences the whole world on different levels 

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will.

 

Bernie would have decimated Trump.

Yes, but it looks like Bernie is going to lose the primary barring a miracle. Hillary will maybe win, but I can see her losing to Trump if a lot of Bernie supporters don't vote for her which isn't an unlikely scenario. Hopefully though there's some convention **** that results in Kasich or Rubio or Ryan grabbing the nomination that drives Trump supporters out and fatally wounds both parties.

[Valsuelm]

 

 

Good man.

 

If Trumps beats Clinton --from the period beginning the day after the General Election through the day of Inauguration, I will "like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of your brilliance/righteousness for each of your posts covering said time period. You will do the same for each one of mine if Clinton defeats Trump.

 

Sound good to you? If nothing else- hilarity will ensue.

 

Maybe have one of our resident lawyers --Gromnir or Amentep --come up with the legalese of the terms of our agreement?

 

Haha!!

 

Sure, it will be amusing no doubt.

 

The only possible potential issue with this that I can think of is it might become hard (my free time may become very limited around the holidays for example) for the loser to keep up, depending on how prolific the winning poster is.

 

Perhaps we can set up minimum guidelines. ie: ""like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of the other's brilliance/righteousness for at each of their posts covering said time period. If the winner is especially prolific the loser will only be expected to do this for a minimum average of 2 posts per day".

 

Note: I'm no fan of Gromnir, he's the only person I have on ignore in any forum anywhere, largely because of the insane ogrespeak. I will however have no problems with him drawing something up if he wishes so long as it's not in ogrespeak, and actually in sane and clearly legible English. I doubt he will want to do that, I'm just throwing this out there since his name came up.

 

Vals...you cant be serious ...you cant seriously think Trump will beat Clinton..... he has NO chance,  if I use some hyperbole its like a clash of different cultures and civilizations, its very exciting and unique but also relevant and  resonates and influences the whole world on different levels 

 

 

Bruce, the only demographics Clinton has in the bag are the 'we want a woman in the white house no matter what' crowd (which isn't that big outside of the baby boomer females), the 'obamaphone' crowd (which is decently large, however most of them don't know what day of the week it is on any given day), and some SJWs such as yourself who are truly detached from almost all aspects of reality. 

 

She will not win any additional demographics. Her political capital is long since spent.

[Hurlshort]

Clinton will still pull in all of the democratic base in a general election, particularly against a candidate like Trump or Cruz.  Bernie Sanders supporters don't hate Clinton the way some Republicans hate Trump.  The Republican party had a great chance to win with a more moderate candidate, but that has clearly floundered.

 

Clinton is a tired candidate with too much history.  But versus Trump?  I don't see how he gets enough support.

 

Granted, Trump's entire campaign has defied political logic.  It's been a bizarre election.

[Valsuelm]

 

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will.

Bernie would have decimated Trump.

Yes, but it looks like Bernie is going to lose the primary barring a miracle. Hillary will maybe win, but I can see her losing to Trump if a lot of Bernie supporters don't vote for her which isn't an unlikely scenario. Hopefully though there's some convention **** that results in Kasich or Rubio or Ryan grabbing the nomination that drives Trump supporters out and fatally wounds both parties.

 

 

Hillary winning New York will be a testament to one of two things (or perhaps both):

 

1. Just how much the out of touch very low IQ vote matters. ie: Obamaphone folks, most of whom couldn't tell you who the current VP is if their life depended on it. And often almost literally need their hands held to get to the polls. Many of whom are probably unaware that Bernie even exists.

2. Just how much the elections are rigged.

 

The support for Bernie is very strong in New York. Particularly in Upstate and Long Island. You are hard pressed to find many vocal Hillary supporters. Most democrats with a brain are voting for him, and some aren't voting at all as they plan to vote Trump (that's what people I know in the NY Dem party who are campaigning for Hillary (mostly because they have to) even tell me).

 

While Nassau, Erie, and maybe even Monroe counties and might be a toss up (due to the slumish areas, and relative plethora of detached from reality babyboomers in them), the rest of New York outside of NYC should definitely be painted Bernie's color this evening (if it's not, fraud is likely why). If Hillary wins legit, it will more than likely be due to the NYC zombie vote.

 

The average Sanders supporter I know, and they are quite common where I live, will not be voting Hillary come November, as they hate her about as much as most Republicans do. She would never win another Senate seat in New York.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Valsuelm]

Granted, Trump's entire campaign has defied political logic.  It's been a bizarre election.

 

It hasn't defied actual political logic at all. It has only defied what the most of the bought and paid for talking heads on TV say is political logic, but is actually just propaganda or stupidity. The same is true for Bernie for the most part.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Valsuelm]

 

 

Trump will absolutely crush Clinton in November. Bernie would have had a much better chance vs. Trump than Clinton will.

Bernie would have decimated Trump.

Yes, but it looks like Bernie is going to lose the primary barring a miracle. Hillary will maybe win, but I can see her losing to Trump if a lot of Bernie supporters don't vote for her which isn't an unlikely scenario. Hopefully though there's some convention **** that results in Kasich or Rubio or Ryan grabbing the nomination that drives Trump supporters out and fatally wounds both parties.

 

 

The best thing that could possibly happen I think is if Trump and Bernie both end up running independent. I do think that would kill both parties, as who would win I do not know, but I'd put a boatload of money that Trump or Bernie would be the winner and the other the runner up. The establishment candidates of both the red and blue party would take 3rd and 4th place in a 4 way election. 'Anti-establishment' is arguably the biggest issue this election, and one the establishment press and establishment politicians is barely talking about. Nevertheless, it's still out there right in front of everyone's face in both the success of Sanders and Trump.

 

Sadly, a four way race is not going to happen. As while there's still a small possibility that Trump would run independent, Sanders will sadly likely just roll over come convention time.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Hurlshort]

 

 

 

Hillary winning New York will be a testament to one of two things (or perhaps both):

 

1. Just how much the out of touch very low IQ vote matters. ie: Obamaphone folks, most of whom couldn't tell you who the current VP is if their life depended on it. And often almost literally need their hands held to get to the polls.

 

 

 

That's hardly an epidemic unique to the Hillary supporters.  There is a fairly large contingent of people that think Obama is a Muslim.   

[Longknife]

Politics? In my TF2? It's more likely than you think!

 

(and yes I was just as confused as you probably all are when I saw this)

Edited April 19, 2016 by Longknife

[Leferd]

Clinton is following the General Election playbook as the prohibitive favorite without any credible Primary challengers. Sanders played his role as the gadfly from the left to remind her to shore up the part base from the left wing base. She'll play with the idea of selecting Elizabeth Warren to double down on the female angle and cement progressive liberals, or go the more conventional route and pick Julian Castro --Latino son of immigrants, liberal, young but seasoned, and potential future Presidential candidate.

 

Really, anyone who thinks Hillary Clinton isn't literally the overwhelming odds on favorite to be elected as the next American President is either delusional or completely dismissive of the salient metrics.

 

PaddyPower is currently giving 4 to 11 odds for a Clinton victory in November and 5 to 1 on Trump. And I'm betting Valsuelm on an even 50/50! My expected Value for this wager is insane!

 

Can't wait for November 8 to begin collecting on Val. Lols.

[Leferd]

 

 

Good man.

 

If Trumps beats Clinton --from the period beginning the day after the General Election through the day of Inauguration, I will "like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of your brilliance/righteousness for each of your posts covering said time period. You will do the same for each one of mine if Clinton defeats Trump.

 

Sound good to you? If nothing else- hilarity will ensue.

 

Maybe have one of our resident lawyers --Gromnir or Amentep --come up with the legalese of the terms of our agreement?

Haha!!

 

Sure, it will be amusing no doubt.

 

The only possible potential issue with this that I can think of is it might become hard (my free time may become very limited around the holidays for example) for the loser to keep up, depending on how prolific the winning poster is.

 

Perhaps we can set up minimum guidelines. ie: ""like" and make one comment of support and/or affirmation of the other's brilliance/righteousness for at each of their posts covering said time period. If the winner is especially prolific the loser will only be expected to do this for a minimum average of 2 posts per day".

 

Note: I'm no fan of Gromnir, he's the only person I have on ignore in any forum anywhere, largely because of the insane ogrespeak. I will however have no problems with him drawing something up if he wishes so long as it's not in ogrespeak, and actually in sane and clearly legible English. I doubt he will want to do that, I'm just throwing this out there since his name came up.

Cool. It's pretty much a done deal. I actually like the idea of having the terms drawn up in Grommiespeak. That'll give this the over-the-top touch to our absurd bet.

[Bartimaeus]

Apparently, the NY primary is already a gigantic mess, with many precincts having their polling places' locations switched literally yesterday for no apparent reason, tens of thousands of registered voters being purged for no reason, closed polling places, broken voting machines, gigantic delays... Every time this sort of thing has happened, Clinton has won big. Is it corruption or incompetency, I wonder? Probably a bit of both.