North Korea Has Detonated Its First Hydrogen Bomb

[obyknven]

North Korea Has Detonated Its First Hydrogen Bomb.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/world/asia/north-korea-hydrogen-bomb-test.html?_r=0

Our military forces prove this information also. It's expected consequences of Western "democratic" crusades around the world .

 

Newton's 3rd Law

To every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary parts.

 

P.S. Everyone have preparations for 'hot' WW IV  now,  main question is when this war begin (it's insider info from Russian military forces ke-ke-ke) 

[HoonDing]

Good on them. It will prove better in the long run than feeding a starving population.

[BruceVC]

The entire NK regime is a disgrace and would never be tolerated if it had a Western neighbor. But once again because China is ultimately responsible for NK they don't care if hundreds of thousands of Koreans have died of starvation as long as they maintain a facada of a government its good enough for them

 

You guys cannot tell me that the current NK government has a legitimate right to rule the country and if you could change the regime you would. This is what I mean by legitimate regime change  

[HoonDing]

"The entire NK regime is a disgrace and would never be tolerated if it had a Western neighbor."

 

Western countries tolerate their women to be raped by immigrants with impunity.

[BruceVC]

"The entire NK regime is a disgrace and would never be tolerated if it had a Western neighbor."

 

Western countries tolerate their women to be raped by immigrants with impunity.

You can't be seriously comparing the years of mass murder committed by the reprehensible and narcissistic NK regime against there own people to the social issues the EU is experiencing due to Syrian refugees ?  

[HoonDing]

Solve problems in your own country before meddling elsewhere and creating even more problems.

 

Besides, change should firstly come from within, not from outside.

 

"the years of mass murder"

 

propaganda lies

Edited January 6, 2016 by HoonDing

[BruceVC]

Solve problems in your own country before meddling elsewhere and creating even more problems.

 

Besides, change should firstly come from within, not from outside.

 

"the years of mass murder"

 

propaganda lies

 

No, people like me are more than capable of telling the truth about brutal dictatorships that have NO right to rule a country even though we have major social problems in South Africa our black government does care about its citizens. We would never allow thousands of people just to starve to death

 

I have to say I'm more concerned why more people on this forum are not unequivocally condemning NK ?  

[Meshugger]

Oby, yur hawt

[HoonDing]

Oby best womyn on this forum for sure.

[Gfted1]

WW IV? Dammit, did I miss the WW III Great Drone War?

[Barothmuk]

The entire NK regime is a disgrace and would never be tolerated if it had a Western neighbor.

Would be if they were in our pocket. You yourself have supported corrupt dictatorships on the basis they're "our guy".

 

Personally I think the West could alleviate the conditions of the North Korean people if they just opened diplomatic relations and trade. Catch more flies with honey and all that.

[HoonDing]

WW IV? Dammit, did I miss the WW III Great Drone War?

its happening

[Meshugger]

The financial and political elite couldn't care less about NK on how they treat their citizens, it's more about control. It's a sovereign state, for all the good and the bad it implies, and that concerns them greatly. Plebeian toughts like dignity and empathy, of which we hold, is sold for support and leverage against the regime in Pyongyang. 

 

That's why open trade and freedom of movement is currently off the table.

[BruceVC]

 

The entire NK regime is a disgrace and would never be tolerated if it had a Western neighbor.

Would be if they were in our pocket. You yourself have supported corrupt dictatorships on the basis they're "our guy".

 

Personally I think the West could alleviate the conditions of the North Korean people if they just opened diplomatic relations and trade. Catch more flies with honey and all that.

 

Yes Baro you right, during the Cold War the West had certain alliances and turned a blind eye to certain activities because these leaders or countries were opposed to Communism. In my own country the unnatural and abhorrent system of Apartheid was able to sustain itself for decades because the Apartheid government was opposed to Communism. And as much as I hate to admit it the greater threat was Communism ....but yes I am aware of the perceived inconsistency

 

But lets drop the whole " The West did this 30 years ago "  and look at NK in the here and now. Surly you cannot support what the NK regime is doing? This is not about the West but its about basic human rights

 

And the West has had a long history of negotiating with NK

 

The financial and political elite couldn't care less about NK on how they treat their citizens, it's more about control. It's a sovereign state, for all the good and the bad it implies, and that concerns them greatly. Plebeian toughts like dignity and empathy, of which we hold, is sold for support and leverage against the regime in Pyongyang. 

 

That's why open trade and freedom of movement is currently off the table.

No offense but to suggest "NK is a soverign state and we need to respect there rules " is one of the most frustrating responses a person can give 

 

The NK  regime has never had a valid election and they have used there control of the army and ideological brainwashing and brutal killings of  any dissidents  to stay in power....they are not soverign by any respects

 

I don't expect you to start campaigning outside there embassy or for the West to invade as I know the whole China dynamic but surly you can criticize them on a forum like this ?

 

And its not like you don't get involved in other political debates so I do consider you informed on most global developments  

[HoonDing]

They're half a globe away ffs, just leave them alone.

 

Also interesting to note that South Korea has laws as draconic as their northern neighbour. Just read up a bit about Internet access over there.

[Meshugger]

 

The financial and political elite couldn't care less about NK on how they treat their citizens, it's more about control. It's a sovereign state, for all the good and the bad it implies, and that concerns them greatly. Plebeian toughts like dignity and empathy, of which we hold, is sold for support and leverage against the regime in Pyongyang. 

 

That's why open trade and freedom of movement is currently off the table.

No offense but to suggest "NK is a soverign state and we need to respect there rules " is one of the most frustrating responses a person can give 

 

The NK  regime has never had a valid election and they have used there control of the army and ideological brainwashing and brutal killings of  any dissidents  to stay in power....they are not soverign by any respects

 

I don't expect you to start campaigning outside there embassy or for the West to invade as I know the whole China dynamic but surly you can criticize them on a forum like this ?

 

And its not like you don't get involved in other political debates so I do consider you informed on most global developments  

 

 

- "NK is a sovereign state!"

- "Nu-uh, the state has complete control down to a micro-level, that's not sovereign by any means!"

 

Bruce pls, you're drunk. Go back to bed.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Meshugger

[BruceVC]

 

 

The financial and political elite couldn't care less about NK on how they treat their citizens, it's more about control. It's a sovereign state, for all the good and the bad it implies, and that concerns them greatly. Plebeian toughts like dignity and empathy, of which we hold, is sold for support and leverage against the regime in Pyongyang. 

 

That's why open trade and freedom of movement is currently off the table.

No offense but to suggest "NK is a soverign state and we need to respect there rules " is one of the most frustrating responses a person can give 

 

The NK  regime has never had a valid election and they have used there control of the army and ideological brainwashing and brutal killings of  any dissidents  to stay in power....they are not soverign by any respects

 

I don't expect you to start campaigning outside there embassy or for the West to invade as I know the whole China dynamic but surly you can criticize them on a forum like this ?

 

And its not like you don't get involved in other political debates so I do consider you informed on most global developments  

 

 

- "NK is a sovereign state!"

- "Nu-uh, the state has complete control down to a micro-level, that's not sovereign by any means!"

 

Bruce pls, you're drunk. Go back to bed.

 

Actually its 3 pm in the afternoon and I'm stone cold sober 

 

And your reason for suggesting " NK is a sovereign state "  is still factually incorrect 

 

I'm not sure what your definition of sovereign is, this is not a reason to say " we cannot criticize mass murder" ...its completely illogical 

[FlintlockJazz]

Did Korea set us up the bomb? 

 

I'll get my coat.

[Meshugger]

 

 

 

The financial and political elite couldn't care less about NK on how they treat their citizens, it's more about control. It's a sovereign state, for all the good and the bad it implies, and that concerns them greatly. Plebeian toughts like dignity and empathy, of which we hold, is sold for support and leverage against the regime in Pyongyang. 

 

That's why open trade and freedom of movement is currently off the table.

No offense but to suggest "NK is a soverign state and we need to respect there rules " is one of the most frustrating responses a person can give 

 

The NK  regime has never had a valid election and they have used there control of the army and ideological brainwashing and brutal killings of  any dissidents  to stay in power....they are not soverign by any respects

 

I don't expect you to start campaigning outside there embassy or for the West to invade as I know the whole China dynamic but surly you can criticize them on a forum like this ?

 

And its not like you don't get involved in other political debates so I do consider you informed on most global developments  

 

 

- "NK is a sovereign state!"

- "Nu-uh, the state has complete control down to a micro-level, that's not sovereign by any means!"

 

Bruce pls, you're drunk. Go back to bed.

 

Actually its 3 pm in the afternoon and I'm stone cold sober 

 

And your reason for suggesting " NK is a sovereign state "  is still factually incorrect 

 

I'm not sure what your definition of sovereign is, this is not a reason to say " we cannot criticize mass murder" ...its completely illogical 

 

 

Still not getting i see:

 

sovereign

 

 

[sov-rin, sov-er-in, suhv-] 

Spell Syllables

• Synonyms
• Examples
• Word Origin

noun

1.

a monarch; a king, queen, or other supreme ruler.

2.

a person who has supreme power or authority.

3.

a group or body of persons or a state having sovereign authority.

4.

a gold coin of the United Kingdom, equal to one pound sterling: wentout of circulation after 1914.

 

Check point 1-3.

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

 

The financial and political elite couldn't care less about NK on how they treat their citizens, it's more about control. It's a sovereign state, for all the good and the bad it implies, and that concerns them greatly. Plebeian toughts like dignity and empathy, of which we hold, is sold for support and leverage against the regime in Pyongyang. 

 

That's why open trade and freedom of movement is currently off the table.

No offense but to suggest "NK is a soverign state and we need to respect there rules " is one of the most frustrating responses a person can give 

 

The NK  regime has never had a valid election and they have used there control of the army and ideological brainwashing and brutal killings of  any dissidents  to stay in power....they are not soverign by any respects

 

I don't expect you to start campaigning outside there embassy or for the West to invade as I know the whole China dynamic but surly you can criticize them on a forum like this ?

 

And its not like you don't get involved in other political debates so I do consider you informed on most global developments  

 

 

- "NK is a sovereign state!"

- "Nu-uh, the state has complete control down to a micro-level, that's not sovereign by any means!"

 

Bruce pls, you're drunk. Go back to bed.

 

Actually its 3 pm in the afternoon and I'm stone cold sober 

 

And your reason for suggesting " NK is a sovereign state "  is still factually incorrect 

 

I'm not sure what your definition of sovereign is, this is not a reason to say " we cannot criticize mass murder" ...its completely illogical 

 

 

Still not getting i see:

 

sovereign

 

[sov-rin, sov-er-in, suhv-] 

Spell Syllables

• Synonyms
• Examples
• Word Origin

noun

1.

a monarch; a king, queen, or other supreme ruler.

2.

a person who has supreme power or authority.

3.

a group or body of persons or a state having sovereign authority.

4.

a gold coin of the United Kingdom, equal to one pound sterling: wentout of circulation after 1914.

 

Check point 1-3.

 

Okay you and I arent on the same page on this whole thing and in order for me to explain to you what you seem to be overlooking I would probably just annoy you..so lets just leave it

[Agiel]

Initiatial seismic readings make it out to be around the same yield as the previous device (10 kt, which is less than the first Trinity test). So the most generous thing you can say about this was it was an attempt at a Teller-Ulam device that fizzled.

Edited January 7, 2016 by Agiel

[Orogun01]

Initiation seismic readings make it out to be around the same yield as the previous device (10 kt, which is less than the first Trinity test). So the most generous thing you can say about this was it was an attempt at a Teller-Ulam device that fizzled.

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYAstzwUMAQAgki.png

Good to have the facts but I honestly didn't buy this thing for a second. When you have the capabilities you make a show of strength for the whole world to see, this is just bragging.

[obyknven]

WW IV? Dammit, did I miss the WW III Great Drone War?

"Cold" War = WW III. 

 

Only on major battlefields of Cold war die around 20 millions of people.

Greek Civil War (~158,000)

First Indochina War (~600,000)

Malayan Emergency (~11,000)

Korean War (~4,500,000)

Suez Crisis (3,850–5,000)

Southeast Asian wars (~7,890,000)

Guatemalan Civil War (~200,000)

Congo Crisis (~200,000)

Bay of Pigs (~4,300)

Indo-Pakistani War (~3 000 000)

Angolan Civil War (750 000)

War in Afghanistan (~1,623,000)

Ogaden War (13,000)

 

Total death toll of cold war ~ 40 000 000.

http://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=summary&url=/journals/nep/v002/2.3marcos.html

 

The misnamed "Cold War" reached very high temperatures: from the catacombs of international espionage to the sidereal space of Ronald Reagan's famous "Star Wars"; from the sands of the Bay of Pigs in Cuba to the Mekong Delta in Vietnam; from the unbridled nuclear arms race to the savage coups in Latin America; from the reprehensible maneuvers of NATO armies to the intrigues of CIA agents in Bolivia, where Che Guevara was assassinated. All these events culminated in the collapse of the socialist camp as a world system and in its dissolution as a social alternative.

[Gorgon]

The lady looked so proud

[Gorgon]

I think it makes more sense to call it a protracted proxy war than a world war, but some people do call the cold war ww3.