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[Blarghagh]

Best Roti is Surinam Roti Massala with Snake Beans.    John, whoever he is, can go suck it.

 

I'm so hungry now...

[BruceVC]

 

I should have used your blue text. It was actually delicious and gross and greasy in that way only the most unhealthy junk food can be.

The bacon is terrible in that and they should feel ashamed for wasting bacon.

 

 

I had barbecue for lunch and it was great.

 

Edited for accuracy.

 

That does look .....you Texans know your meat, no doubt 

[BruceVC]

Troll mode: Western culture isn't being willfully assimilated by other cultures, it's overpowering their culture because it's better than theirs. That's not strength, that's weakness.

This post young grasshopper 

[Blarghagh]

I was trolling the idea that was posited earlier in this thread that because the West doesn't assimilate other cultures but resists them the West is somehow inferior to cultures who assimilate Western cultures into their own. I mockingly gave it a completely different root cause that makes just as much sense. I actually disagree with the entire premise, however.

[Gfted1]

 

I heard from my brother that the Roti John was invented by the Illuminati Jews to slowly subvert the east with delicious mayonnaise.

 

No wonder no one know it's origin, damn...

 

John must be a 33rd degree Mason...

 

I just told you who invented it. Its a well known fact that the Illuminati Jews are mayonnaise barons that control the worlds mayo supply. You want it more and more and before you know it, BAM, you've been Westernized. Its best if you just accept your fate.

[Fenixp]

BAM, you've been Westernized.

*POOF*

[Darkpriest]

OMG i've burst out with laughter

[Gfted1]

*POOF*

Don't be intimidated by our superior technology and abundant food stocks. If you have some oil we will be there to liberate you soon.

[BruceVC]

I was trolling the idea that was posited earlier in this thread that because the West doesn't assimilate other cultures but resists them the West is somehow inferior to cultures who assimilate Western cultures into their own. I mockingly gave it a completely different root cause that makes just as much sense. I actually disagree with the entire premise, however.

Oh okay that makes sense now

 

But the reality is the West does accept other cultures ....you can have your own religion and cultural values if you live in a Western country but you need to accept that your culture cannot break the law of the country

 

In fact I would argue the West is much more accepting of other cultures  than anywhere else in the world

[Darkpriest]

 

 

 

 

Yes I can see how you may feel like that but I need to explain something important to you

 

 

 

In South Africa I am very active on radio talk shows where we discuss politics and global events. In South Africa radio talk shows are how people debate and how we explain things to each other

 

Anyway I have noticed that the South African Muslim community is always very defensive when it comes to things like ISIS

 

So for example I might say " ISIS is killing people in Syria " and then someone would say " yes but the West is bombing Muslims "

 

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Wow 2 pages of WTF!

 

Bruce, you want to tell me that people who were raised here have miinformed view? I believe they simply despise our approach to certain way of life. I admit i have enough of PC to a point that i could start hating it. Add some other cultural differences and there it is. You go ballistic.

 

Also Calling Sauds allies is a bit far fetched. At best they share same economic and political interests but do you actually see them fighting extremism? Considering the branch of Islam they practice is the most restrictive and most militant I'd have my doubts about their real allegiance.

 

Well this thread is about honesty so I will be honest....what  do you think I am saying is misinformed about?

 

And yes Saudi Arabia is an ally to the West but you need to understand why they are an ally to the West. People sometimes misunderstand me because they think my view is inconsistent but its not. My view on the overall Middle East is I want stability and I don't want the oil supply to be disrupted 

 

Saudi  Arabia is the leading Sunni country in the ME and the other Sunni\Gulf states follow there lead so this includes UAE, Qatar and Kuwait. These also happen to be overall the most stable countries in the ME and the ones that the West understands the best. My company has a branch in Dubai and I have worked in all these countries 

 

So first point is it would economically imprudent to now become an enemy of Saudi Arabia. Also you have to realize after 9/11 the Saudi's became a target for Al-Qaeda because they considered the Saudi royal family as apostate.

 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Saudi_Arabia

 

So up to then the Saudi royal family didn't really care to help the USA but they realized that there survival was linked to the West defeating Al-Qaeda and they became a real asset in the war on terror as they provided invaluable information

 

So yes we need to respect the fact that the Saudi's  dont embrace liberal values such as human rights but they also  dont support extremism ...and that is what matters in the context of the Middle East and remember my objective ....the stability of the region

 

Also for the first time Saudi Arabia is actively involved in the airstrikes against ISIS....so they stepping up in there regional responsibility

 

 http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/09/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/index.html

 

 

They do not support it officially, per the king's offical word, BUT it does not mean they do not support it unofficially. Look which schools and mosques are sponsored by the Sauds officially, then consider this that Sauds official religion is Wahhabism.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

[Qistina]

Well this thread is about honesty so I will be honest....what  do you think I am saying is misinformed about?

 

 

And yes Saudi Arabia is an ally to the West but you need to understand why they are an ally to the West. People sometimes misunderstand me because they think my view is inconsistent but its not. My view on the overall Middle East is I want stability and I don't want the oil supply to be disrupted 

 

Saudi  Arabia is the leading Sunni country in the ME and the other Sunni\Gulf states follow there lead so this includes UAE, Qatar and Kuwait. These also happen to be overall the most stable countries in the ME and the ones that the West understands the best. My company has a branch in Dubai and I have worked in all these countries 

 

So first point is it would economically imprudent to now become an enemy of Saudi Arabia. Also you have to realize after 9/11 the Saudi's became a target for Al-Qaeda because they considered the Saudi royal family as apostate.

 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Saudi_Arabia

 

So up to then the Saudi royal family didn't really care to help the USA but they realized that there survival was linked to the West defeating Al-Qaeda and they became a real asset in the war on terror as they provided invaluable information

 

So yes we need to respect the fact that the Saudi's  dont embrace liberal values such as human rights but they also  dont support extremism ...and that is what matters in the context of the Middle East and remember my objective ....the stability of the region

 

Also for the first time Saudi Arabia is actively involved in the airstrikes against ISIS....so they stepping up in there regional responsibility

 

 http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/09/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/index.html

 

 

 

Nope...Saudi is NOT a leading Sunni country in Middle East, they not even Sunni, they are Wahhabi

 

Their royal families are gangsters and they use whatever means to topple eachother. Since they are who create Al Qaeda with USA and CIA, they will use them to against each other.

 

Read this book, it's a good book about Saudi

 

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8088325-the-thieves-of-riyadh

 

Also read this book, this explain the creation of Saudi

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoirs_of_Mr._Hempher,_The_British_Spy_to_the_Middle_East

http://www.hakikatkitabevi.com/download/english/14-ConfessionsOf%20ABritishSpy.pdf

Edited November 23, 2015 by Qistina

[Qistina]

This movie is actually explain how the British creating Saudi Arabia...they even show you in movies...they show you bit by bit how western people conspiring against middle east. And this movie is parallel with with Memoir of Mr Hampher...

 

[ManifestedISO]

 

Our ex PM did suggest we use gold-dinar, but Illluminati Jews don't allow it...and he's forced to resign....so now my country economy is quite like ****....

My brother is the leader of the Chicago branch of Illuminati Jews and he told me that's not true.

 

 

No one knows this, but every Illuminati owns vacation homes in San Diego, specifically La Jolla, California. I know this, because translated from ancient Hebrew, 'La Jolla' means, 'the jewel'. Right there in the word, see?  

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

They do not support it officially, per the king's offical word, BUT it does not mean they do not support it unofficially. Look which schools and mosques are sponsored by the Sauds officially, then consider this that Sauds official religion is Wahhabism.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism

 

 

 

 

Well this thread is about honesty so I will be honest....what  do you think I am saying is misinformed about?

 

 

And yes Saudi Arabia is an ally to the West but you need to understand why they are an ally to the West. People sometimes misunderstand me because they think my view is inconsistent but its not. My view on the overall Middle East is I want stability and I don't want the oil supply to be disrupted 

 

Saudi  Arabia is the leading Sunni country in the ME and the other Sunni\Gulf states follow there lead so this includes UAE, Qatar and Kuwait. These also happen to be overall the most stable countries in the ME and the ones that the West understands the best. My company has a branch in Dubai and I have worked in all these countries 

 

So first point is it would economically imprudent to now become an enemy of Saudi Arabia. Also you have to realize after 9/11 the Saudi's became a target for Al-Qaeda because they considered the Saudi royal family as apostate.

 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Saudi_Arabia

 

So up to then the Saudi royal family didn't really care to help the USA but they realized that there survival was linked to the West defeating Al-Qaeda and they became a real asset in the war on terror as they provided invaluable information

 

So yes we need to respect the fact that the Saudi's  dont embrace liberal values such as human rights but they also  dont support extremism ...and that is what matters in the context of the Middle East and remember my objective ....the stability of the region

 

Also for the first time Saudi Arabia is actively involved in the airstrikes against ISIS....so they stepping up in there regional responsibility

 

 http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/09/world/meast/isis-coalition-nations/index.html

 

 

 

Nope...Saudi is NOT a leading Sunni country in Middle East, they not even Sunni, they are Wahhabi

 

Their royal families are gangsters and they use whatever means to topple eachother. Since they are who create Al Qaeda with USA and CIA, they will use them to against each other.

 

Read this book, it's a good book about Saudi

 

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8088325-the-thieves-of-riyadh

 

Also read this book, this explain the creation of Saudi

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoirs_of_Mr._Hempher,_The_British_Spy_to_the_Middle_East

http://www.hakikatkitabevi.com/download/english/14-ConfessionsOf%20ABritishSpy.pdf

 

No you guys are misunderstanding something simple about the ME 

 

Saudi Arabia is considered a Sunni\Gulf state and it is the most influential country...this is not about the fact they follow Wahhabism

 

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/understanding-the-gulf-states

Edited November 23, 2015 by BruceVC

[Darkpriest]

@Bruce

 

Additonally, a special learning task for you for your next visit in the ME area.

 

Find out how the banking system operates there, what kind of services are available for who, etc.

 

I can only tell you this much that tracking any type of asset movement from the outside perspective is IMMENSLY difficult to not say impossible to asses true scope and accuracy.

 

Arab banks are not traditional banking, and one of the reasons is the religion and its view on certain regular banking practices, like for example lending money and taking it back with interests (I suspect Quistina could be your religious council on those aspects)

 

The only reason you do not see more visible tensions between USA & Co. vs Arab states is big money and big business. After all it's the big bucks sponsoring various candidates and political parties.

 

If the oil trade would halt with that region it would cause such a huge global crisis, that many really big financial istitutions would just fold and that would cause a backlash on the local markets and economies in each "western" country.. think the last crisis multiplied in magnitude by the one from 1973.

 

Besides the nature of the financial systems in Arab countries would make any official claims near impossible to call, and certainly not valid enough for the public in the 'western' countries after fiascos such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Qistina]

The one who called them "Sunni" is the west...the term "Sunni' also western creation to make Saudi "Sunni"

 

The real one is Ahlus Sunnah WalJama'ah, we simply say Ahlus Sunnah...since when become "Sunni", there is NO "Sunni"...what is "Sunni"?

 

Wahhabi claim they are Sunni by context Ahlus Sunnah WalJama'ah (i shothened it as ASWJ) while they themselves AGAINST all ASWJ teachings, they call us all Infidels

 

ASWJ consist of 4 schools of "law" that are Syafi'e, Maliki, Hanafi and Hanbali. And consist of 2 schools of "faith" that are Asyariah and Maturidiah. This is the REAL ASWJ

 

Wahhabi only pick up some things in 4 school of law and reject both school of faith. They are not one of us.

 

The west twisting this to make division between ASWJ and Syiah by categorize Wahhabis as "Sunni", that is not Syiah, when Wahhabi known as Sunni, when they messed up with Syiah, the Syiah messed up with us all, because of this label "Sunni"...see?

Edited November 23, 2015 by Qistina

[BruceVC]

The one who called them "Sunni" is the west...the term "Sunni' also western creation to make Saudi "Sunni"

 

The real one is Ahlus Sunnah WalJama'ah, we simply say Ahlus Sunnah...since when become "Sunni", there is NO "Sunni"...what is "Sunni"?

 

Wahhabi claim they are Sunni by context Ahlus Sunnah WalJama'ah (i shothened it as ASWJ) while they themselves AGAINST all ASWJ teachings, they call us all Infidels

 

ASWJ consist of 4 schools of "law" that are Syafi'e, Maliki, Hanafi and Hanbali. And consist of 2 schools of "faith" that are Asyariah and Maturidiah. This is the REAL ASWJ

 

Wahhabi only pick up some things in 4 school of law and reject both school of faith. They are not one of us.

 

The west twisting this to make division between ASWJ and Syiah by categorize Wahhabis as "Sunni", that is not Syiah, when Wahhabi known as Sunni, when they messed up with Syiah, the Syiah messed up with us all, because of this label "Sunni"...see?

Okay well thanks for explaining, I dont mind how you want to refer to Saudi Arabia in the Middle East 

 

The point is really that the other Gulf states follow there lead so that makes them very relevant in the ME 

[Tigranes]

 

Definitely not. We don't even have a McDouble. KFC fares better. They just introduced the Double Down Burger here too - I tried it and it tasted sufficiently American, meaning my arteries clogged up and I wanted to kill myself in shame.

 

Don't feel shame; just recognize it as junk food only to be eaten rarely. That actually looks really good; maybe I'll get some KFC on Thanks Giving.

 

 

It's easy to understand why people would sometimes eat something that is delicious but terrible for you.

 

What I don't understand is how anybody could look at that thing and think it looks delicious in any conceivable way. 

 

I love meat, I don't really like vegetables, but dear God, would people also enjoy eating candy, milk chocolate, ice cream and Coke all in one bite? 

 

....OK, actually, they sell stuff in the US that does combine most of those. I just don't get how it could taste good, it's amazing how people's sense of taste adapt.

[Gfted1]

No one knows this, but every Illuminati owns vacation homes in San Diego, specifically La Jolla, California. I know this, because translated from ancient Hebrew, 'La Jolla' means, 'the jewel'. Right there in the word, see?

Holla for La Jolla! This makes total sense though as Cali is well know as the mayonnaise capital of the world.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

 

Definitely not. We don't even have a McDouble. KFC fares better. They just introduced the Double Down Burger here too - I tried it and it tasted sufficiently American, meaning my arteries clogged up and I wanted to kill myself in shame.

 

Don't feel shame; just recognize it as junk food only to be eaten rarely. That actually looks really good; maybe I'll get some KFC on Thanks Giving.

 

 

It's easy to understand why people would sometimes eat something that is delicious but terrible for you.

 

What I don't understand is how anybody could look at that thing and think it looks delicious in any conceivable way. 

 

 

Wow, I thought I was the only one who threw up in his mouth a little upon seeing that... thing.

[Darkpriest]

@Tigranes

 

I was amazed by various combinations of food.

 

Mayonayes and ketchup mix with fish and chips, or peanut butter and jelly... I mean, for me those things were like a culinar heresy... and still are, never bothered to take a bite. the mere thought of those awful things disgusts my cups.

 

On the other hand food like pieces of tender veal straight from the shin bone, with mashed potatoes mixed with cooked pumkin with fresh vegetable mix and a splash on plate made of a salty sausce on the basis of dark bittersweet chocolate and warm cranberries, so you can combine it with whatever piece of food or mix of food you have on your fork.... now this is a poetry of food and flavors.

 

 

PS. that said i like to have a bite of mozzarella sticks or a good poutine with my beer in a pub.

Edited November 23, 2015 by Darkpriest

[Meshugger]

Instead of the west converting to Islam, why can't the east abolish all that intolerant wahabbi-BS and convert to Sufi instead? Why are you guys so ignorant when you can worship idols, meditate on what God is and dance yourself drunk like those dervishes instead. It would be peace in our times.

 

Qistina, please see the light. Throw away your hate, embrace Sufi and you will probably meet a nice western trucker, with a big beard who will not be afraid to kiss you on the middle of the street and hold your hand. 

[Meshugger]

 

 

 

Definitely not. We don't even have a McDouble. KFC fares better. They just introduced the Double Down Burger here too - I tried it and it tasted sufficiently American, meaning my arteries clogged up and I wanted to kill myself in shame.

 

Don't feel shame; just recognize it as junk food only to be eaten rarely. That actually looks really good; maybe I'll get some KFC on Thanks Giving.

 

 

It's easy to understand why people would sometimes eat something that is delicious but terrible for you.

 

What I don't understand is how anybody could look at that thing and think it looks delicious in any conceivable way. 

 

 

Wow, I thought I was the only one who threw up in his mouth a little upon seeing that... thing.

 

 

You have obviously never encountered the local cousine at a truck-stop in Mississippi, be glad you haven't.

[Qistina]

Today the west want to recategorize Muslims and Islam...making it more...liberal islam, moderate Islam, extremist Islam...what the hell the west want to categorize us? What do you know about islam making you can label this and label that as you like?

 

Wahhabi is HERETIC who gain power in Middle East by British and USA help

 

None of their "fatwas"/decree are practice by other Muslim countries, not even being accepted or considered to be accepted, because they are simply heretical. That's why ONLY in Saudi Arabia is like what you see in Saudi Arabia...example, women cannot drive, women must cover the whole body, public execution by chopping head, rape victims get flogged...ect ect ect...ONLY in Saudi Arabia, NO ONE follow their fatwas

 

The ones who follow their fatwas are Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram, An Nusra...and all those terrorists

 

So we can clearly see who's who...ALL those Islamic terrorist are WAHHABI...

Edited November 23, 2015 by Qistina

[Gfted1]

I wonder if that sandwich comes with mayonnaise. What do you guys think? That sauce kinda looks like a sriracha-mayo combo. You know who loves sriracha-mayo? That's right, the Illuminati Jews. Muahahahahahaha...