Elerond Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The Turks have now shot down a Russian fighter jet: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983 The scene for correcting what happened to Constantinople is about to be set. Nah. its a war zone and accidents happen ...Russia knows this It was not accident, because Turkey knew that there was no aircrafts that are hostile for them in air. It was just show of power from Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 The Turks have now shot down a Russian fighter jet: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983 The scene for correcting what happened to Constantinople is about to be set. Nah. its a war zone and accidents happen ...Russia knows this It was not accident, because Turkey knew that there was no aircrafts that are hostile for them in air. It was just show of power from Turkey. Yes sorry you are right...I read the link now "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The Turks have now shot down a Russian fighter jet: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983 The scene for correcting what happened to Constantinople is about to be set. Nah. its a war zone and accidents happen ...Russia knows this It was no accident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qistina Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The Turks have now shot down a Russian fighter jet: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983 The scene for correcting what happened to Constantinople is about to be set. Nah. its a war zone and accidents happen ...Russia knows this It was no accident... Nothing is accident.... Turkey should sent escort IF Russian plane get into their border, why shot on first sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintlockJazz Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The Turks have now shot down a Russian fighter jet: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34907983 The scene for correcting what happened to Constantinople is about to be set. Nah. its a war zone and accidents happen ...Russia knows this It was no accident... Nothing is accident.... Turkey should sent escort IF Russian plane get into their border, why shot on first sight? Because Turkey does not want Russia bombing the rebel groups in Syria. They alerted the Russian plane to turn back and they could not let it continue the mission without becoming complicit in it, so it was either back down and let Russia use Turkey airspace as they wished or shoot it down. I'm sure if the situation was reversed Russia would have done the same thing. "That rabbit's dynamite!" - King Arthur, Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail "Space is big, really big." - Douglas Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I am fairly sure that it was what the crew expected but then again they were not even in the Turks airspace. I would not be surprised that they were actually talking with their command about being intercepted and targeted. But Turks decided to attack. I am fairly sure that from now on Russian jets have a green light on destroying any Turkish jet that could pose threat to them. I mean i can't imagine pilots being willing to take flights in that zone without such a green light for "self defence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? Look this may seem severe but its not ...no one said there wouldn't be any issues We have about 1300 cases of rape in South Africa per day...yes per day So I'm sure this tragedy will be appropriately dealt with in Finland But yes I'm sorry for what happened ...sometimes I forget most people aren't desensitized to crime like us But I have to ask...is a single case of rape such a big deal? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yes when vast majority of offenders are immigrants and now refugees join them it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yes when vast majority of offenders are immigrants and now refugees join them it seems Hold on....are you seriously telling me there are no cases of rape or murder where you live? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Terorists attack hotel in Sinaj.... I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? Look this may seem severe but its not ...no one said there wouldn't be any issues We have about 1300 cases of rape in South Africa per day...yes per day So I'm sure this tragedy will be appropriately dealt with in Finland But yes I'm sorry for what happened ...sometimes I forget most people aren't desensitized to crime like us But I have to ask...is a single case of rape such a big deal? Between 2005-2010, there were 505 cases of rape in Finland, where 70% were done by natives, 23% foreign born and 7% by people not living in Finland at all. Since then, it has been raising. For men born up until the 80's in Finland, a man hitting a woman usually got a beating himself. It was veeery frowned upon. A rape was something that only borderline mentally ill people did. This kind of surprise rape that we have seen the last 20 years is a new phenomenon in finnish society. Edited November 24, 2015 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintlockJazz Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? Look this may seem severe but its not ...no one said there wouldn't be any issues We have about 1300 cases of rape in South Africa per day...yes per day So I'm sure this tragedy will be appropriately dealt with in Finland But yes I'm sorry for what happened ...sometimes I forget most people aren't desensitized to crime like us But I have to ask...is a single case of rape such a big deal? I think he was trying to point out that the actions of one or two people does not reflect the beliefs or opinions of an entire group to Qistina. "That rabbit's dynamite!" - King Arthur, Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail "Space is big, really big." - Douglas Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yes when vast majority of offenders are immigrants and now refugees join them it seems Hold on....are you seriously telling me there are no cases of rape or murder where you live? Obviously there are, but not in significant numbers. I cant check the data now as i am using phone for forum tracking and not using my work related computer to do anything not related to my job. IIRC it is something like 1 per 40k populace a year in case of rapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? Look this may seem severe but its not ...no one said there wouldn't be any issues We have about 1300 cases of rape in South Africa per day...yes per day So I'm sure this tragedy will be appropriately dealt with in Finland But yes I'm sorry for what happened ...sometimes I forget most people aren't desensitized to crime like us But I have to ask...is a single case of rape such a big deal? Between 2005-2010, there were 505 cases of rape in Finland, where 70% were done by natives, 23% foreign born and 7% by people not living in Finland at all. Since then, it has been raising. For men born up until the 80's in Finland, a man hitting a woman usually got a beating himself. It was veeery thrown upon. A rape was something that only borderline mentally ill people did. This kind of surprise rape that we have seen the last 20 years is a new phenomenon in finnish society. Okay Meshugger I need to say something very important to you and all other EU members I feel very guilty for some reason...like I haven't been honest but I didn't realize you have almost no crime where you live We have to realistic about something, we are talking about people who have come from a brutal war and have probably lost all material possessions. They have also given up all hope of going home...so think about that, imagine having no country. Then they walk for days through strange and protective EU lands where they realize ...they not really wanted And then they arrive in Finland....which must seem very strange to them. I am not justifying crime or saying " you must now accept rape " . All I'm saying is there will be instances of crime but the majority of Muslims will be ordinary people Anyway once again I thought you were talking about only Islamic extremist attacks when we spoke about what may be an issue...I am sure I didn't realize you meant crime as well "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yes when vast majority of offenders are immigrants and now refugees join them it seemsHold on....are you seriously telling me there are no cases of rape or murder where you live? Obviously there are, but not in significant numbers. I cant check the data now as i am using phone for forum tracking and not using my work related computer to do anything not related to my job. IIRC it is something like 1 per 40k populace a year in case of rapes. Please find out ...I'm interested I have to be honest its been quite a shock to realize how bad South Africa is ...I will raise this tonight on that radio station and get others opinions "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? You need to be more accepting of their values. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? You need to be more accepting of their values. KP.... I really shouldn't find that funny but I did "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? You need to be more accepting of their values. Sorry, stepped out of my programming there, chief. I meant that she was culturally enriched. Again, sorry. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A 14 year old girl has been brutally raped in the finnish town of Kempele by two asylum-seekers. The town is the home town of the finnish Prime Minister and he has now called in the Minister of Interior the Minister of Justice for a crisis-meeting. Rumors are now abound that the girl is the Prime Ministers niece. Tell me Qistina, why do muslim refugees rape girls of their host nations? Why do you guys hate our women? You need to be more accepting of their values. Sorry, stepped out of my programming there, chief. I meant that she was culturally enriched. Again, sorry. You should be apologizing to those two asylum-seekers. Brutalizing women is a key component of their culture and judging them by your values is bigoted. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Yes when vast majority of offenders are immigrants and now refugees join them it seemsHold on....are you seriously telling me there are no cases of rape or murder where you live? Obviously there are, but not in significant numbers. I cant check the data now as i am using phone for forum tracking and not using my work related computer to do anything not related to my job. IIRC it is something like 1 per 40k populace a year in case of rapes. Please find out ...I'm interested I have to be honest its been quite a shock to realize how bad South Africa is ...I will raise this tonight on that radio station and get others opinions So i pulled out some Police statistics and divided it so I could get results per 1,000 citizens. here it is: Murders: 0.015 per 1,000 citizens per year (1 per 67.1k citizens per year) Rapes: 0.036 per 1,000 citizens per year (1 per 28.2k citizens per year) Non-armed assault/participating in fights: 0.228 per 1,000 citizens per year (1 per 4.4k citizens per year) Total crimes: 18.479 per 1,000 citizens per year (less than 18.5 crime per 1,000 citizens per year, where vast majority are thefts, and narcotic related crimes, like trafficing, possession etc.) it is a CEE country, which in 80s was less secure than most old EU countries, such as West Germany, France. I recall the time when in Switzerland people could leave their houses and cars open and not even think that someone will try to steal something from them. That was before they vastly opened borders to immigrants in West EU. Various CEE countries have various rates per 1000 but they are not significantly different, so you can imagine why they are so against accepting immigrants, when they see what has happened in old EU countries. (problems with assimilation, increased crime rates, especially rapes and murders, etc.) Edited November 24, 2015 by Darkpriest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 @Bruce, are you sure you have your statistic right? I mean... 1,300 rapes per day is like nearly 475,000 rapes a year.... do you even have women who were never raped? what's the population in SA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) So i pulled out some Police statistics Which, of course, means these are the reported numbers, and given that rape is one of the most underreported crimes... Edited November 24, 2015 by aluminiumtrioxid "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 So i pulled out some Police statistics Which, of course, means these are the reported numbers, and given that rape is one of the most underreported crimes... Yes, but this is relevant for every country, so if you are comparing official data with official data the variance is comparable, if not in favor of the ones with higher rates (you can assume that they also have higher rate of unreported ones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Northern France - Roubaix - armed men took hostages, gunfire reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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