[Bug] Ferry Flotsam - Peregund Negative Reputation

[UninvitedGuest]

Description:

This is a guess at a bug, but when completing Ferry Floatsam the hero LOSES minor reputation with Defiance Bay. This seems to be a mistake.

 

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[makaisson]

Apparently, you didn't read what the characters involved in the quest were saying...

[Gotcha!]

What makaisson said. It's not a bug. 

[khango]

I actually find this confusing - Peregrund is from Defiance Bay and seem like she should have more impact on reputation "brave dashing man saved my cargo" than a few dead peasants ruffians that nobody will ever miss.  As a minor aside, I think it'd be nice to be able to offer the thieves work at Odd Nua - you pay them 150 coppers a month and your improvement build times go down by 15% or something.

[Merina]

Same here.

 

They are looters. My main character currently is a Kind Wayfarer Paladin and thinks they are stealing ... there is no way to continue at that point, because it's them who attack me first.

 

The party reputation shift for Defiance Bay is not for the kills but for returning the cargo to Peregrund. As the screenshots show.

 

This could be improved.

 

It has come up before: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/72610-quest-ferry-flotsam-reputation-error/?view=findpost&p=1682840&hl=peregrund

[IanTheWizard]

I agree with khango and Merina. I'm doing this quest and find it resulting in negative reputation if I choose not to lie, so I searched on the internet and found this thread.

It's true that the looters suffered from the storm and were poor. But does not mean it's fine for them steal other people' goods. The design of this quest is not well-considered and needs be improved.

Currently, after the looters ask you to lie to the goods owner, "I will not lie to cover your thievery." is the only "no lie" response and it triggers the battle. It could be improved so that there is one more "no lie" response letting you decline with understanding words such as "I cannot lie to the goods owner, but I can offer you some coins to help you start a new life."

Edited July 7 by IanTheWizard

[Teukros]

It's not about whether the character is telling the truth or not, or whether it's right to steal in such a situation or not. The point is that thieves are humans and Peregrund is an orlan. And orlans are disliked and have a bad reputation in Defiance Bay.

[IanTheWizard]

9 minutes ago, Teukros said:

It's not about whether the character is telling the truth or not, or whether it's right to steal in such a situation or not. The point is that thieves are humans and Peregrund is an orlan. And orlans are disliked and have a bad reputation in Defiance Bay.

Okay. But why would helping an orlan outside Defiance Bay result in negative reputation in the city? The looters are all dead, and the orlan didn't say that she would spread words about my deed in the city.

Edited July 7 by IanTheWizard

[Teukros]

Keep in mind that the event takes place at the bridge to Defiance Bay (the city is literally across the river), and Peregund is a merchant, with a stand in the main square of the city. And the merchants talk a lot

[IanTheWizard]

5 minutes ago, Teukros said:

Keep in mind that the event takes place at the bridge to Defiance Bay (the city is literally across the river), and Peregund is a merchant, with a stand in the main square of the city. And the merchants talk a lot

I will not talk about the said culture in Defiance Bay because every place has its own culture. But I would like to point out that the story does not communicate the culture to players well, if it does any. I was not informed that orlans are disliked in the city.

Edited July 7 by IanTheWizard