Journalism and bias in the gaming industry.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

We've been challenged to a fight guys.

 

And I have the same avatar as this guy.

Edited March 26, 2015 by KaineParker

[Barothmuk]

Is that Johnny Cage?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Cassidy from Preacher.

[Longknife]

 

We've been challenged to a fight guys.

 

And I have the same avatar as this guy.

 

 

Am I the only one that just find people like this to be idiots?

 

The premise of a fight is stupid. It's the idea that well if Hitler could beat up Obama well then I guess we better elect Hitler, huh? It proves absolutely nothing. It's someone mistaking ego for actually proving a point.

[ShadySands]

Now I'm imagining Hitler and Obama in a fistfight. Thanks

 

PS 20 bucks on Barry

[Fighter]

GamerGate blamed for flop of Sucker Punch. If you google "Sucker Punch misogyny" can you guess what you're going get? Hint: it isn't some proto GamerGate attacking Sucker Punch. It is Feminist Frequency.

 

This again shows how these people don't even know or agree what feminism/social justice is and how a "journalist" can't do even the most basic research.

 

[Meshugger]

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/355732.php

 

This will come to games as well, unless developers collectively tell journalists and the twitter outrage industry to collectively **** off with their infantile opinions.

[Malcador]

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mansplaining-ellen-pao-trial-fixing-gender-issue-jason-calacanis

 

Does this nonsense really need to infect everything?

LinkedIn is already rife with this garbage

[Keyrock]

I'm pretty sure Sucker Punch flopped because it was a ****ty movie.  No further explanation or delving is necessary nor warranted.  The movie sucked > people realized it sucked > it flopped.  End of story.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Keyrock

[Barothmuk]

Cassidy from Preacher.

Wow, I was way off.

[Murlin]

Sucker punch was hardly a blip on the radar, it has way less going for it then people want to believe.   
It was visually impressive in places, but it's not really worth the attention beyond that.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

I'm pretty sure Sucker Punch flopped because it was a ****ty movie.  No further explanation or delving is necessary nor warranted.  The movie sucked > people realized it sucked > it flopped.  End of story.

I tend to avoid Snyder's work because it's mostly ****, is Sucker Punch worse than usual?

[Fighter]

I started watching Sucker Punch and lasted about 20 minutes.

[Keyrock]

 

I'm pretty sure Sucker Punch flopped because it was a ****ty movie.  No further explanation or delving is necessary nor warranted.  The movie sucked > people realized it sucked > it flopped.  End of story.

I tend to avoid Snyder's work because it's mostly ****, is Sucker Punch worse than usual?

 

It's hard to compare since I too tend to stay away from his work, for the same reasons.  The movie tries to relay some deep message about captivity, abuse, and rape, but the narrative is such a mess and so nonsensical that you have to perform Olympic-level mental gymnastic to derive anything out of it.  The effects are a mixed bag; some of the CGI is cool, some of it is bloody awful.  The action sequences are a complete mess.  Really, "a complete mess" is the best way to describe the movie.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Keyrock

[Oerwinde]

I thought the visuals and action scenes of Sucker Punch were great, but the narrative was just kinda meh. I dont regret buying it, but regret paying full price.

[Meshugger]

In between playing PoE, i stumbled upon this: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

 

 

In a previous post on Suicidalism, I identified some of the most important of the Soviet Union’s memetic weapons. Here is that list again:

• There is no truth, only competing agendas.
• All Western (and especially American) claims to moral superiority over Communism/Fascism/Islam are vitiated by the West’s history of racism and colonialism.
• There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor.
• The prosperity of the West is built on ruthless exploitation of the Third World; therefore Westerners actually deserve to be impoverished and miserable.
• Crime is the fault of society, not the individual criminal. Poor criminals are entitled to what they take. Submitting to criminal predation is more virtuous than resisting it.
• The poor are victims. Criminals are victims. And only victims are virtuous. Therefore only the poor and criminals are virtuous. (Rich people can borrow some virtue by identifying with poor people and criminals.)
• For a virtuous person, violence and war are never justified. It is always better to be a victim than to fight, or even to defend oneself. But ‘oppressed’ people are allowed to use violence anyway; they are merely reflecting the evil of their oppressors.
• When confronted with terror, the only moral course for a Westerner is to apologize for past sins, understand the terrorist’s point of view, and make concessions.

 

Sound familiar?

[Orogun01]

In between playing PoE, i stumbled upon this: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

 

 

In a previous post on Suicidalism, I identified some of the most important of the Soviet Union’s memetic weapons. Here is that list again:

• There is no truth, only competing agendas.
• All Western (and especially American) claims to moral superiority over Communism/Fascism/Islam are vitiated by the West’s history of racism and colonialism.
• There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor.
• The prosperity of the West is built on ruthless exploitation of the Third World; therefore Westerners actually deserve to be impoverished and miserable.
• Crime is the fault of society, not the individual criminal. Poor criminals are entitled to what they take. Submitting to criminal predation is more virtuous than resisting it.
• The poor are victims. Criminals are victims. And only victims are virtuous. Therefore only the poor and criminals are virtuous. (Rich people can borrow some virtue by identifying with poor people and criminals.)
• For a virtuous person, violence and war are never justified. It is always better to be a victim than to fight, or even to defend oneself. But ‘oppressed’ people are allowed to use violence anyway; they are merely reflecting the evil of their oppressors.
• When confronted with terror, the only moral course for a Westerner is to apologize for past sins, understand the terrorist’s point of view, and make concessions.

 

Sound familiar?

The Frankfurt school has been a part of GG forays into the beginnings of Cultural Marxism and how hipsters seem to follow its trend.

But really it's all tangentially related to the main problem of corruption and the ideological takeover of indie development.

 

Interesting article though

[BruceVC]

In between playing PoE, i stumbled upon this: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

 

 

In a previous post on Suicidalism, I identified some of the most important of the Soviet Union’s memetic weapons. Here is that list again:

• There is no truth, only competing agendas.
• All Western (and especially American) claims to moral superiority over Communism/Fascism/Islam are vitiated by the West’s history of racism and colonialism.
• There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor.
• The prosperity of the West is built on ruthless exploitation of the Third World; therefore Westerners actually deserve to be impoverished and miserable.
• Crime is the fault of society, not the individual criminal. Poor criminals are entitled to what they take. Submitting to criminal predation is more virtuous than resisting it.
• The poor are victims. Criminals are victims. And only victims are virtuous. Therefore only the poor and criminals are virtuous. (Rich people can borrow some virtue by identifying with poor people and criminals.)
• For a virtuous person, violence and war are never justified. It is always better to be a victim than to fight, or even to defend oneself. But ‘oppressed’ people are allowed to use violence anyway; they are merely reflecting the evil of their oppressors.
• When confronted with terror, the only moral course for a Westerner is to apologize for past sins, understand the terrorist’s point of view, and make concessions.

 

Sound familiar?

 

I'm not sure what that is but its very irritating with its generalizations and flawed logic 

[Meshugger]

The founder of OccupyWallst.org talks about GG: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ke4nq_free-speech-justine-tunney_fun

 

She mentions the two most banned words for leftists. Dear lord.

[Meshugger]

 

In between playing PoE, i stumbled upon this: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

 

 

In a previous post on Suicidalism, I identified some of the most important of the Soviet Union’s memetic weapons. Here is that list again:

• There is no truth, only competing agendas.
• All Western (and especially American) claims to moral superiority over Communism/Fascism/Islam are vitiated by the West’s history of racism and colonialism.
• There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor.
• The prosperity of the West is built on ruthless exploitation of the Third World; therefore Westerners actually deserve to be impoverished and miserable.
• Crime is the fault of society, not the individual criminal. Poor criminals are entitled to what they take. Submitting to criminal predation is more virtuous than resisting it.
• The poor are victims. Criminals are victims. And only victims are virtuous. Therefore only the poor and criminals are virtuous. (Rich people can borrow some virtue by identifying with poor people and criminals.)
• For a virtuous person, violence and war are never justified. It is always better to be a victim than to fight, or even to defend oneself. But ‘oppressed’ people are allowed to use violence anyway; they are merely reflecting the evil of their oppressors.
• When confronted with terror, the only moral course for a Westerner is to apologize for past sins, understand the terrorist’s point of view, and make concessions.

 

Sound familiar?

 

I'm not sure what that is but its very irritating with its generalizations and flawed logic 

 

 

No one gives a damn if you find it irritating. Either you put up a counter argument on why old Soviet disinformation campaigns have absolutely no resemblance on to how the anti-GGs argue and what kind rhetoric they employ. Even Baroth can come up with counterarguments with great substance if poked enough, so you do have zero excuses.

 

Either you put up or shut up.

[Barothmuk]

You do realise the post-modern "there is no absolute truth, only subjectivity" **** represents a massive break from the previous Marxist traditions and has only spawned ideologies and movements that reinforce neo-liberal dogma.

[Meshugger]

You do realise the post-modern "there is no absolute truth, only subjectivity" **** represents a massive break from the previous Marxist traditions and has only spawned ideologies and movements that reinforce neo-liberal dogma.

 

Yup, i am not talking about the workers owning the means of production here, i am talking about the Foucault-reading intellegentia.

[Barothmuk]

Yup, i am not talking about the workers owning the means of production here, i am talking about the Foucault-reading intellegentia.

Assuming I' reading correctly, that's what I meant; it represented a massive break from academic Marxism.

 

I'll expand what I mean in relation to modern leftism in a bit. Making dinner.

[BruceVC]

 

 

In between playing PoE, i stumbled upon this: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=260

 

 

In a previous post on Suicidalism, I identified some of the most important of the Soviet Union’s memetic weapons. Here is that list again:

• There is no truth, only competing agendas.
• All Western (and especially American) claims to moral superiority over Communism/Fascism/Islam are vitiated by the West’s history of racism and colonialism.
• There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor.
• The prosperity of the West is built on ruthless exploitation of the Third World; therefore Westerners actually deserve to be impoverished and miserable.
• Crime is the fault of society, not the individual criminal. Poor criminals are entitled to what they take. Submitting to criminal predation is more virtuous than resisting it.
• The poor are victims. Criminals are victims. And only victims are virtuous. Therefore only the poor and criminals are virtuous. (Rich people can borrow some virtue by identifying with poor people and criminals.)
• For a virtuous person, violence and war are never justified. It is always better to be a victim than to fight, or even to defend oneself. But ‘oppressed’ people are allowed to use violence anyway; they are merely reflecting the evil of their oppressors.
• When confronted with terror, the only moral course for a Westerner is to apologize for past sins, understand the terrorist’s point of view, and make concessions.

 

Sound familiar?

 

I'm not sure what that is but its very irritating with its generalizations and flawed logic 

 

 

No one gives a damn if you find it irritating. Either you put up a counter argument on why old Soviet disinformation campaigns have absolutely no resemblance on to how the anti-GGs argue and what kind rhetoric they employ. Even Baroth can come up with counterarguments with great substance if poked enough, so you do have zero excuses.

 

Either you put up or shut up.

 

 

You seem to have misunderstood me , I didn't think  you guys would be interested in what I don't like about those points. Thats why I didn't comment further, its not that I didn't want to 

 

And since you have asked me to respond I gladly will , I thoroughly enjoy these types of debates 

 

• There is no truth, only competing agendas.

      1)Nonsense, there are many truths that have been proven and are irrefutable. For example, Russia is actively involved in Ukraine and Nigeria is having an a hotly contested presidential  election tomorrow 

• All Western (and especially American) claims to moral superiority over Communism/Fascism/Islam are vitiated by the West’s history of racism and colonialism.

2) Never..not in a million years. Of course the West has aspects of a checkered past but comparing the West to the purges of Stalin or Hitler is just silly and no serious historian will agree with that, its just hyperbole 

•  
• There are no objective standards by which we may judge one culture to be better than another. Anyone who claims that there are such standards is an evil oppressor.

3)Again wrong, we dont pass judgement on the wealth or education of the citizens in other countries. We generally pass judgement on how they treat there citizens and effectively govern there country. And there are still some  appalling examples of leadership in the world and there is no way they aren't going to get criticized 

• The prosperity of the West is built on ruthless exploitation of the Third World; therefore Westerners actually deserve to be impoverished and miserable.

4 )This is obviously a joke ..and it did make me  laugh

• Crime is the fault of society, not the individual criminal. Poor criminals are entitled to what they take. Submitting to criminal predation is more virtuous than resisting it.

5)No if you break the law there must be consequences.

• The poor are victims. Criminals are victims. And only victims are virtuous. Therefore only the poor and criminals are virtuous. (Rich people can borrow some virtue by identifying with poor people and criminals.)
• For a virtuous person, violence and war are never justified. It is always better to be a victim than to fight, or even to defend oneself. But ‘oppressed’ people are allowed to use violence anyway; they are merely reflecting the evil of their oppressors.

6)Also funny 

 

• When confronted with terror, the only moral course for a Westerner is to apologize for past sins, understand the terrorist’s point of view, and make concessions 

....in fact is this whole thing suppose to be a joke ?

[BruceVC]

 

Yup, i am not talking about the workers owning the means of production here, i am talking about the Foucault-reading intellegentia.

Assuming I' reading correctly, that's what I meant; it represented a massive break from academic Marxism.

 

I'll expand what I mean in relation to modern leftism in a bit. Making dinner.

 

 

Baro where do you live? I always thought the USA but then realized I was wrong