ravenshrike Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Contiuing from here. For the uninitiated: The 'Gamergate' controversy started in early 2013, as the release of Zoe Quinn's "Depression Quest" I feel the need to point out that Gamergate didn't occur until the day after the term was first coined by Adam Baldwin. The Zoe Post or alternatively Quinngate was solely a linked matter and would not have materially changed Gamergate no matter what it was actually about. Gamegate is, in the end, about the nature of journalism and whether collaborative mass posts J-list style to push an ideological message are at all acceptable. The analysis of both Twitter posts and Google Analytics bears out that the community significantly concerned with Gamergate is much, much different from the community that was significantly concerned with the Zoe Post.Of course, none of that changes the fact that Zoe Quinn is an utterly amoral person who lies, cheats while in a monogamous relationship, mentally abuses her partners, and is willing to selfishly capitalize on the loss of a treasured figure to pimp her game which whitewashes and ultimately trivializes the very disorder it is supposedly about. I'm not sure what the purpose of your post is, ravenshrike? You seem to be saying "Zoe isn't as important to GamerGate as the thread intro makes her out to be" (which, to be fair, is entirely true, I don't give one flying hoot about Zoe) but then you proceed with "let's talk about Zoe and how terrible she is". Either way, I much prefer to talk about actual review practices. *blinks* The point of my post, inasmuch as it can said to have a point, was entirely encapsulated within the first paragraph. My usage of of course was as what the English would consider a bastardized discourse marker to refer to a tangentially related topic. "You know, there's more to being an evil despot than getting cake whenever you want it" "If that's what you think, you're DOING IT WRONG."
Longknife Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Meanwhile, in Japan... https://youtu.be/bbjpyMJ4TaE Thank goodness there is at least one country left in the world with a sense of humor. Western civilization will be saved, ironically enough, by Glorious Nippon. But is Glorious Nippon a match for JAZZ HANDS??? http://imgur.com/xtHbBNO Edited March 24, 2015 by Longknife "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Keyrock Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 But is Glorious Nippon a match for JAZZ HANDS??? http://imgur.com/xtHbBNO That has got to be a joke, right? Because, come on. Seriously. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Longknife Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 But is Glorious Nippon a match for JAZZ HANDS??? http://imgur.com/xtHbBNO That has got to be a joke, right? Because, come on. Seriously. Doesn't appear so. Sure functions well as one though, right? Picture a bunch of bulky feminists with cigars in their mouths having flashbacks to 'Nam cause people start clapping. Then picture those same feminists doing jazz hands. "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Volourn Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 It's fake. It's got to be fake. FAKE FAKE FAKE. .... Please? if it's not fake I just got TRIGGERED BY A STUPID TWEET! DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Longknife Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 It's fake. It's got to be fake. FAKE FAKE FAKE. .... Please? if it's not fake I just got TRIGGERED BY A STUPID TWEET! I tried desperately to prove it as parody and couldn't find any indication of such. All I found was this: NUS is the National Union of Students over here in the UK. Each university elects people to represent them at the union. The NUS has proved quite controversial over the last few years in terms of what the NUS' motives are and the motives behind people running for it, with several universities choosing to disaffiliate themselves from the NUS. Full of left wing/socialists. "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Gorgon Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 'what the hell are 'jazz hands' ? Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Gorgon Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 ohh it's that retarded thing the occupy people used to do. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
valmont Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I didn't know there would be a thread here, I'm just here for PoE. I'm 100% behind Gamergate, but I think it's done. But it leaves a lasting legacy, a positive one imo.
Volourn Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 FACT: Without Gamergaters there would be no PE. TRUE STORY. Can anti GGers say the same? NO. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Ganrich Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Clapping causes anxiety? I guess they can't watch Peter Pan, or Tink is doomed. "You have to jazz hands, Peter." 1
licketysplit Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Ten grand to the brave soul who sneaks a Go Pro into the next NUS meeting.
Namutree Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Gamergate caused apartheid. Dang, that sucks. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
BruceVC Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Gamergate caused apartheid. It did ...you right, GG has been directly implicated in the creation of Apartheid "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 FACT: Without Gamergaters there would be no PE. TRUE STORY. Can anti GGers say the same? NO. PE? What exactly do you mean..surly not Project Eternity "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Volourn Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) I do. I guarantee it is pro GGers who support PE/Obsidian because its goal of being old skool (questionable quality aside. SJWs as a group (not you) hate that type of game because it's not 'new age' or artsy enough. If anti Ggers had their way Obsidian would be out of business despite the fact that Obsidian seems to be anti GG and pro SJW (but not the extreme that silly BIO is). Edited March 25, 2015 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
BruceVC Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I do. I guarantee it is pro GGers who support PE/Obsidian because its goal of being old skool (questionable quality aside. SJWs as a group (not you) hate that type of game because it's not 'new age' or artsy enough. If anti Ggers had their way Obsidian would be out of business despite the fact that Obsidian seems to be anti GG and pro SJW (but not the extreme that silly BIO is). Okay I see your point. But I don't think SJW objectives necessarily "interfere " in every game design. I think companies like Obsidian want to embrace inclusivity on different levels so it comes naturally? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Orogun01 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I do. I guarantee it is pro GGers who support PE/Obsidian because its goal of being old skool (questionable quality aside. SJWs as a group (not you) hate that type of game because it's not 'new age' or artsy enough. If anti Ggers had their way Obsidian would be out of business despite the fact that Obsidian seems to be anti GG and pro SJW (but not the extreme that silly BIO is). I think they just decided that paying lip service was better than being confrontational, a lot of people just make that one tiny change just to get them off their back. Quite frankly I don't think that Obsidian cares about political views as much as having good quality, so when they do inclusive things is because they thought it was a good idea. Which is probably why Obsidian's gay characters in NV are liked and Bio's pandering is torn down, as the latter is a very see through attempt. 1 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Namutree Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I do. I guarantee it is pro GGers who support PE/Obsidian because its goal of being old skool (questionable quality aside. SJWs as a group (not you) hate that type of game because it's not 'new age' or artsy enough. If anti Ggers had their way Obsidian would be out of business despite the fact that Obsidian seems to be anti GG and pro SJW (but not the extreme that silly BIO is). Not to mention that their games are fun. We all know how SJW's feel about fun. Only a misogynerd would want games to be fun. 2 "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
BruceVC Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I do. I guarantee it is pro GGers who support PE/Obsidian because its goal of being old skool (questionable quality aside. SJWs as a group (not you) hate that type of game because it's not 'new age' or artsy enough. If anti Ggers had their way Obsidian would be out of business despite the fact that Obsidian seems to be anti GG and pro SJW (but not the extreme that silly BIO is). I think they just decided that paying lip service was better than being confrontational, a lot of people just make that one tiny change just to get them off their back. Quite frankly I don't think that Obsidian cares about political views as much as having good quality, so when they do inclusive things is because they thought it was a good idea. Which is probably why Obsidian's gay characters in NV are liked and Bio's pandering is torn down, as the latter is a very see through attempt. Well you may see the changes as insignificant but I think for minority groups they matter. For example in PoE we see African American races that have been very well received. "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Barothmuk Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Quite frankly I don't think that Obsidian cares about political views as much as having good quality, so when they do inclusive things is because they thought it was a good idea.Although not Obsidian Josh Sawyer did back Sarkeesian.For example in PoE we see African American races that have been very well received.Black =/= African American.
BruceVC Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I do. I guarantee it is pro GGers who support PE/Obsidian because its goal of being old skool (questionable quality aside. SJWs as a group (not you) hate that type of game because it's not 'new age' or artsy enough. If anti Ggers had their way Obsidian would be out of business despite the fact that Obsidian seems to be anti GG and pro SJW (but not the extreme that silly BIO is). Not to mention that their games are fun. We all know how SJW's feel about fun. Only a misogynerd would want games to be fun. Games are not suppose to be about fun Namutree....they are suppose to be about important political and social statements....everyone knows this !!! Oh wait..... 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Namutree Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) I think they just decided that paying lip service was better than being confrontational, a lot of people just make that one tiny change just to get them off their back. Quite frankly I don't think that Obsidian cares about political views as much as having good quality, so when they do inclusive things is because they thought it was a good idea. Which is probably why Obsidian's gay characters in NV are liked and Bio's pandering is torn down, as the latter is a very see through attempt. Well you may see the changes as insignificant but I think for minority groups they matter. For example in PoE we see African American races that have been very well received. The issue Bruce is that Obsidian makes such characters because Obsidian honestly wants to make them, and when developers instead make such characters simply for the sake of representation is shows because they will be designed very poorly since the artists don't put their heart into it. Edited March 25, 2015 by Namutree "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
BruceVC Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Quite frankly I don't think that Obsidian cares about political views as much as having good quality, so when they do inclusive things is because they thought it was a good idea.Although not Obsidian Josh Sawyer did back Sarkeesian.For example in PoE we see African American races that have been very well received.Black =/= African American. Black races and African American I mean in the same context Basically I'm saying its good to see non-white races with there own culture and history in games like PoE "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
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