[435] Sinful post-processing effects marring the 2D Backgrounds

In this video there is a clear depth of field/bloom/blur effect on the Dyrford Crossing - it looks _terrible_.

I really hate post-processing effects that blur the nice crisp images/textures in games and it is a sin to include such things over the 2D backgrounds in this game.

I request that these effects be removed, or console commands to disable them be added to the game, because I will not abide depth of field/blur ruining the visual experience for me.
 

 

DECLINE!

Edited February 26, 2015 by Sensuki

Interesting choice of emoticon.

looks *~^glam_oro^us~*

 

would make sense in a dream sequence or something, I guess. but out in the wilderness, I dunno.

I don't like these kinds of effect either and I always turn off DoF and blur (in particular movement blur).

Interesting choice of emoticon.

Subconscious yearinings of Sensuki :D

 

 

And yeah, this looks like a dream sequence  or looking through a lense, doesn't seem like there should be any reason to do those kind of effects. 

 

Also - in video it is visible that the effect is weirdly applied during scrolling - it updates after scroll finishes (0:24-0:27)

It would make sense for dusk/dawn, nighttime or REALLY bright outdoor settings.

No, no it wouldn't. 
 

This isn't an FPS game either.

Edited February 26, 2015 by Sensuki

Agree with Sensuki.

 

Please remove or provide a means of disabling it.

Is it possible it's a byproduct of the fog of war? I wonder if there are different layers of the effect they are using for the fog of war, and I wonder if once it's been completely removed the effect goes away? Is this effect present all over the world?

It would be nice if there were a way to disable that even from a performance perspective. If push comes to shove, I am curious if we can use a wrapper like sweetfx to disable all that.

Yeah, looks like shiet. Considering how much effort they put in the 2d art it would be a shame to "downgrade" it by using those pp effects.

Depth of Field is the most awful, illogical effect ever used in a videogame. Could someone explain to me what is the rationale behind it? In any game. Depth of Field effect comes from cameras, which cannot focus to the distance and to close at the same time. But we don't play videogames through a ****ing camera recorder FFS!

 

I don't even get started using it in an isometric game, because it makes even less sense.

It is supposed to give things a cinematic feel.

 

But that is not a goal of Pillars of Eternity so.....

Dear developers, would you please take that **** (DOF) out from the game or make it as an option at least?

Edited February 26, 2015 by Grotesque

It is supposed to give things a cinematic feel.

 

But that is not a goal of Pillars of Eternity so.....

 

As soon as you hear:

• "Cinematic"
• "Streamlined"

or

• "Next Generation"

You should immediately throw the entire project in the bin and ignore that it ever existed in the first place.

I'm pretty sure that is the "you are fatigued" effect.

Interesting, although unnecessary

I'm pretty sure that is the "you are fatigued" effect.

What if only one party member is fatigued?

It's hooked up to the player specifically.

 

 

Cause, there is something special about the player.  

 

I'm pretty sure that is the "you are fatigued" effect.

Are there other player-condition screen effects like that?

It's pretty mild in the video so not a big deal (to me) in this case, but I still don't tend to like overlay screen effects connected to "you are injured/bleeding" "you are tired" "you've been poisoned" etc. in games these days, and would rather not have it here. A visual cue/symbol on the portrait + occasional repeating text reminder or something of that sort would seem sufficient.

I've seen the depth of field effect in the prologue youtube vids 

It's hooked up to the player specifically.

 

 

Cause, there is something special about the player.  

 

 

Oh, you mean Sensuki was fatigued? That would actually make sense. Probably some biometric sensors connected to the game on higher tiers...

 

Anyway, as this is not first person shooter (does anybody mistake it as such?), it would be desirable to make it at least as an optional switch in the menu, initially off. (as you already spent resources implementing it...)

yeah or a console command. 

At the end of the day they can't put everything someone dislikes on a toggle. That's a lot of programming and testing time that would be better spent elsewhere. Seeing as it's an effect that only occurs when the main pc is fatigued (and given how long it's taken for someone to notice I'm guessing it only happens when the pc suffers from major fatigue) it''s something you'll only see very rarely and you'll probably be resting soon after you see it anyway.

I agree that depth of field doesn't look right in this art style. The game looks like an animated painting, why would there be 'out of focus' parts?