Journalism and sexism in the games industry

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

Creator of the blocklist is doxxing people.

WTF!? Why?

 

If ypu can handle a bit of brutal satire, look at the ED article on here.

 

TL;DR She is a bit mentally unstable.

[Malcador]

Eh, just an email. Though if it were the right kind of victim, I suppose there'd be hell to pay.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Eh, just an email. Though if it were the right kind of victim, I suppose there'd be hell to pay.

The irony is supreme though.

[Longknife]

I had a dream about GamerGate somehow. Odd since I haven't really been paying attention to it that much the past few days.

 

Some journalist was lecturing a classroom on whether or not a game was good, then out of nowhere a time traveler shows up and says the test he was about to give everyone is now null and void. The journalist questions him as to why and he explains that the company that made the game is being exposed as corrupt and may have helped funded the class for positive coverage, and at any rate our area of study (video games?) is about to fall through completely. He then begins drawing visuals to try and explain the complex space-time continuum and attempts to show that we are now right on the doorstep of a major consumer revolution that'll lead to the destruction of the "major" and all of the journalist's knowledge won't hold value in the future.

 

 

  Then I woke up and ate a sandwich and checked the news to see Arthur Chu has been doxxing people.

[Blarghagh]

It's sad to see that a man that I respected in the past and have actually conversed with in person goes out of his way to support McCarthy type blacklisting using a block tool that picks who you follow in Twitter as a barometer. Ernest Adams is a toxic, malicious censor and I'm going to lobby to make sure my university no longer hosts his lectures.

 

Regardless though, I remember saying blacklisting was going on and was going to get much bigger like five threads ago but got dismissed as a conspiracy nut despite being part of the gaming industry. At least I don't have to deal with that anymore. Thankfully IGDA got their buns kicked over it because if the goddamn International Game Developer Association starts blacklisting willy nilly anyone with or who listens to a "deviant point of view" you can kiss creative game development goodbye.

Edited November 24, 2014 by TrueNeutral

[Fighter]

 

Creator of the blocklist is doxxing people.

 She needs to be reported.

[kirottu]

Developers React to the IGDA Controversy

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

It's sad to see that a man that I respected in the past and have actually conversed with in person goes out of his way to support McCarthy type blacklisting using a block tool that picks who you follow in Twitter as a barometer. Ernest Adams is a toxic, malicious censor and I'm going to lobby to make sure my university no longer hosts his lectures.

 

Regardless though, I remember saying blacklisting was going on and was going to get much bigger like five threads ago but got dismissed as a conspiracy nut despite being part of the gaming industry. At least I don't have to deal with that anymore. Thankfully IGDA got their buns kicked over it because if the goddamn International Game Developer Association starts blacklisting willy nilly anyone with or who listens to a "deviant point of view" you can kiss creative game development goodbye.

Somewhat relevant: http://techraptor.net/content/developers-react-igda-controversy

 

EDIT: Ninja'd by kirottu.

 

 

Creator of the blocklist is doxxing people.

 

She needs to be reported.

She is, the dude she doxxed believes her posting of his name and e-mail violate FreeBSD's privacy policy, as he sent the e-mail to the entire list and not just her. Not sure how it will be handled by Twitter or FreeBSD, but it looks like a case of harassment could be built against her.

 

Of course, the pro-corruption crowd is praising her and Chu for harassment and violation of privacy. Funny how when someone on there side doxxes it gets defended and is often someone using their public identity.

 

EDIT2: https://twitter.com/corentin_lamy/status/536812628849729536

 

Kotaku steals article without crediting original author.

Edited November 24, 2014 by KaineParker

[Keyrock]

Developers React to the IGDA Controversy

*sniff* *sniff*

 

Small that?  That's the scent of bridges burning.

[Malcador]

Old joke, but Schafer really should have put a Project Manager as a stretch goal.

[Keyrock]

Old joke, but Schafer really should have put a Project Manager as a stretch goal.

 

It would be a funnier joke if it wasn't so sad. 

[HoonDing]

 

Neckbeard ****lord strikes back.

[Drowsy Emperor]

Had to look him up. So he's the man behind Mafia... that was a seriously well made game.

 

His current project looks interesting too.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Drowsy Emperor

[Meshugger]

A guy with no interest whatsoever in games took a look at gamergate:

 

http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/25529/gamergate-culture-war/

[Keyrock]

A guy with no interest whatsoever in games took a look at gamergate:

 

http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/25529/gamergate-culture-war/

If nothing else, Plexico Gingrich is a pretty fantastic name. 

 

 

One thing l hope for Gamergate is that a great number of people become cynical ***holes like me and regard journalism as a sleazy profession and always regard prevailing narratives with skepticism.

Mission accomplished, though, frankly, I was pretty much there long before this started.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Keyrock

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

So Oliver Campbell's thunderclap just went off. Looks like it has a reach of over 2.1million and its biggest supporters are Occupy Wall Street and Adam Baldwin.

 

It's amazing that gamergate attracts people so diverse as a conservative actor and a movement against runaway capitalism. Looks like everyone is really tired of the SJW bull****.

[Meshugger]

A mighty clap for Oliver "thunderclap" Campbell!

[Keyrock]

A guy with no interest whatsoever in games took a look at gamergate:

 

http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/25529/gamergate-culture-war/

This is my favorite paragraph from this fairly interesting article

 

 

Morality aside, it is interesting to observe models of hypocrisy. “Sure, ___s are excluded from a lot of positive things in society. Sure their lives are unhappier. But if they don’t like it, they should just stop doing stuff like ____ and ____ and stop acting like such ____s.” According to certain worldviews, the way you fill in the mad lib determines if you are a Klansman or a champion of compassion and equality.

[Blarghagh]

An article somewhat related to #GamerGate and culture criticism: http://www.popmatters.com/column/180697-the-new-puritanism-or-some-troubling-tendencies-in-video-game-critic/

 

Among other things, it discusses the role of critics and whether or not offensive art has a place in society and whether or not, in fact, art has to be inherently offensive and it's censorship may (it doesn't make that call, just theorizes) in fact hold video games back.

 

And indeed, if one begins looking at the history of literature, one quickly finds that there are an awful lot of books that might seem to be (or have been very often seen) as morally or politically offensive in nature: Nabokov’s Lolita, (which might seem especially apt here), Joyce’s Ulysses, Twain’s Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Pynchon’s Gravity’s Rainbow, anything written by Phillip Roth or Chuck Palahniuk, and the list goes on and on. These books are seen in literature as incredibly important works despite their potential immorality, sexism, racism, troubling sexual content, and possible pornographic content. Indeed, some of them have even been eventually seen as important because of their handling of such materials, not despite them at all.

 

Also, the sparse (3 so far) comment section is also good, which is a rare.

[kirottu]

Gamergate helps to achieve historic win for internet ethics.

It's official. You guys suck at harassing women.

[Meshugger]

Gamergate helps to achieve historic win for internet ethics.

It's official. You guys suck at harassing women.

 

The comments are awesome:

 

 

Well, we are so bad at harassing that we haven't managed to drive a single woman out of game development. We are the worst hate group in history. At least we're better at this ethics stuff.

 

 

I swear at the rate we are going we are going to solve world hunger by the time we are done harassing all these women.

 

 

We're like the ****ing Mr. Magoo of harrassment. Accidentally bake a 5 layer cake while walking to answer the door.

To all the women still in gaming: I'm sorry, we tried.

[Longknife]

So I wanted to see how GamerGhazi reacted to the FTC issue since I've visited there before and they seem incapable of ever being nice or reasonable to the other side. What do they think of the FTC policy changes?

 

That Gamasutra is responsible for the changes, not GamerGate. Apparently GamaSutra wrote articles months ago about how Youtubes need to disclose when taking money for positive coverage of games.

[Namutree]

So I wanted to see how GamerGhazi reacted to the FTC issue since I've visited there before and they seem incapable of ever being nice or reasonable to the other side. What do they think of the FTC policy changes?

 

That Gamasutra is responsible for the changes, not GamerGate. Apparently GamaSutra wrote articles months ago about how Youtubes need to disclose when taking money for positive coverage of games.

They can give Gamesutra credit for gamergate's accomplishments if they like. As long as the corruption goes away it doesn't bother me.

[Longknife]

 

So I wanted to see how GamerGhazi reacted to the FTC issue since I've visited there before and they seem incapable of ever being nice or reasonable to the other side. What do they think of the FTC policy changes?

 

That Gamasutra is responsible for the changes, not GamerGate. Apparently GamaSutra wrote articles months ago about how Youtubes need to disclose when taking money for positive coverage of games.

They can give Gamesutra credit for gamergate's accomplishments if they like. As long as the corruption goes away it doesn't bother me.

 

 

My thoughts exactly, so reason I bring it up is apparently they DO care who gets credit as there's no attitude of "but it doesn't really matter anyway so long as there's positive change." There's also no mention of how the simple fact GG shows interest in it says that GG does infact care about ethics.

 

 

Just kinda bothers me cause, as I've said before, I think any debate, conflict or issue between two sides works better when the sides don't treat each other like the devil and are capable of admitting to good points from the opposition.

[TrashMan]

Keep hopeing.

 

We are ISIS, KKK, ebola, rapists, harassers and the devil fused into one monstrous creature of super-patriarchy and mysogyny

Edited November 25, 2014 by TrashMan