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I actually misread what you said and see you are openly admitting to considering GG sexist and racist. And again, where are your sources? Where is a single prominent GGer making a sexist or racist comment.?

 

 

 

And until you define what you mean by "prominent GGer", this question remains unanswerable.

 

 

I'm talking a person that GamerGaters put up on a pedestal. TotalBiscuit, Oliver Campell, Sargon of Akkad, ThunderF00t, Mike Cernovich, Christine Sommers, Jennie Bharaj etc etc etc. You get the idea.

 

 

I'll look into them.

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Do the "prominent" (I guess this means loudest) members really matter that much ? Other side has Quinn, McIntosh, that freak Wu and Cheong, after all.

"Hitler is my ****ing idol" - Ian Miles Cheong.

"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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Well he was young. Speaking of prominent, Arthur Chu decides to **** a bit - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/17/rage-against-gamergate-s-hate-machine-what-i-got-for-speaking-up.html

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I actually misread what you said and see you are openly admitting to considering GG sexist and racist. And again, where are your sources? Where is a single prominent GGer making a sexist or racist comment.?

 

 

 

And until you define what you mean by "prominent GGer", this question remains unanswerable.

 

 

I'm talking a person that GamerGaters put up on a pedestal. TotalBiscuit, Oliver Campell, Sargon of Akkad, ThunderF00t, Mike Cernovich, Christine Sommers, Jennie Bharaj etc etc etc. You get the idea.

 

 

I'll look into them.

 

 

 

You're certainly welcome to, but at the same time, realize that to MY knowledge, I was asking a rhetorical question: I know damned well there's nothing they've said that's sexist or racist. Not absolutely, but I mean anything you might find probably hasn't even gone noticed by GG itself up until now, kinda rendering that "evidence" moot as it would do nothing to prove GG condones the attitude, though it would be interesting to - for example - post it in KiA and see how they react.

 

  But yeah, the question is more or less rhetorical so you may end up wasting your time.  Nevertheless let us know if you find something.

 

   Try Cernovich. I don't know much about him myself, other than he claims to be partaking in a lawsuit against a friend of Zoe Quinn (or fan? I forget.) Personally I think he might be full of it. Just a hunch.

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Remember when gamergate spread misogyny by funding that TFYC initiative to have a female designed game?

 

Interview with the woman who won their contest. http://powergamer.co/editorial/interview-afterlife-empires-danielle-maiorino/

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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Cernovich is riding his own ride in this. He saw a greate controversy, checked which ones that had cases he was specialized in (first amendment) and tagged along. He's not like William Usher and Cambell, who are both into rooting out the journalists of the GameJournoPro-list.

 

For Bruce and Aluminium, i would recommend Christina Summers. She comes from academia and has done tons of research since the 70's about feminism.

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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This is actually hilarious. :D

 

He takes some of valid concerns, and twists them so bad, that it's hilarious. And what's with that drinking act in his video? :D

 

Now, history likes to repeat itself and I have no idea, why so many people think we are immune now to the fallings of the past, especially the very young and naive Americans, who have very short history and suddenly they think they are the best thing the world has ever seen....

 

Read some about the actual empires that lasted for several centruries and how life was then. I can assure you that very little divides ancient romans and modern "western" society aside of tech and view on slavery, and we all know how Rome ended.

 

Also some food for thought in this comic:

 

http://www.highexistence.com/amusing-ourselves-to-death-huxley-vs-orwell/

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Read some about the actual empires that lasted for several centruries and how life was then. I can assure you that very little divides ancient romans and modern "western" society aside of tech and view on slavery, and we all know how Rome ended.

 

 

You are clearly a historian, thank you for your insight.

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This is actually hilarious. :D

 

He takes some of valid concerns, and twists them so bad, that it's hilarious. And what's with that drinking act in his video? :D

 

Now, history likes to repeat itself and I have no idea, why so many people think we are immune now to the fallings of the past, especially the very young and naive Americans, who have very short history and suddenly they think they are the best thing the world has ever seen....

 

Read some about the actual empires that lasted for several centruries and how life was then. I can assure you that very little divides ancient romans and modern "western" society aside of tech and view on slavery, and we all know how Rome ended.

 

Also some food for thought in this comic:

 

http://www.highexistence.com/amusing-ourselves-to-death-huxley-vs-orwell/

 

 

I would say its mixture in these days

I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"

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Let this be the final nail in the coffin for the Matt "shirt guy" Taylor-story.

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"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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I agree, Armstrong would give a creepy vibe. Like that of the undead.

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Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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Read some about the actual empires that lasted for several centruries and how life was then. I can assure you that very little divides ancient romans and modern "western" society aside of tech and view on slavery, and we all know how Rome ended.

 

 

You are clearly a historian, thank you for your insight.

 

 

wow, and you are truely a reflection of the typical american, thanks for the enlightning comment.

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https://i.imgur.com/DWLkYVQ.png

That's some strange stuff right there.

Not really, it's been pretty clear that SJWs are largely white dudes for a while now.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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https://i.imgur.com/DWLkYVQ.png

That's some strange stuff right there.

Not really, it's been pretty clear that SJWs are largely white dudes for a while now.

 

 

I meant more in regards to a subreddit specifically geared towards women managing to get overrun by men like that.

"The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him."

 

 

Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?

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Read some about the actual empires that lasted for several centruries and how life was then. I can assure you that very little divides ancient romans and modern "western" society aside of tech and view on slavery, and we all know how Rome ended.

 

 

You are clearly a historian, thank you for your insight.

 

 

wow, and you are truely a reflection of the typical american, thanks for the enlightning comment.

 

 

Thanks!

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Bruce can't be taken seriously. The  hateful guy accused me falsely of being a homophobe which is plain bullcrap.  I do know he is a CISphobe though. Not to mentiona  truthphobe.

 

 

"It was taken out because it would have skewered the result,"

 

\How does it 'skewer' the poll when the poll is basically opinion? You jsut want it erased ebcause you are pro feminism and you dislike your religion being hated. But, it's too late. Most people don't care for feminism. Not even 77% of women do. That should tell you soemthing. Explain that way. Oh yeha, 77% of women have been brainwashed by the patriarchy because they are weak and pathetic. L0L

 

 

"I do think that there are elements within GG that are sexist and misogynist,"

 

I do know that there are elements within anti GG that are sexist and misogynist.

 

 

 

"Not really, it's been pretty clear that SJWs are largely white dudes for a while now."

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\Yeah, I've know it forever. Mostly white dudes, some white ladies, and a couple of Asian racists.

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Gah, i can't wait for all those sites to burn to the ground. 

"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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You guys know that all these websites rely on advertising, which rely on the amount of hits that website gets.  So if you want these websites to burn or whatever, all you really have to do is stop visiting them.

 

That's already happening, and that's why there are massive campaigns for email their advertisers. Those companies didn't pull out before they got the attention from the customers.

"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

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