PK htiw klaw eriF Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Either way, you're wrong. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonarbill Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) Either way, you're wrong. Typical rebuttal from a troll who usually has no argument. Edited September 28, 2014 by bonarbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Either way, you're wrong. Typical rebuttal from a troll who usually has no argument. I've already made my argument. You should try reading. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anameforobsidian Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) LOL at using real world biology to bitch about fantasy creatures.They use real world biology/ideology/human nature to create POE. There is no real world equivalent of Orlans, Elves, Dwaves, Aumaua, or Godlike. Attempting to use real world logic to ascribe characteristics to these fantasy creatures is foolish. I meant to say as a reference. Human: Caucasian Elves: Asian (intelligent, feminine look, long life span) Dwarves: Scottish (accent) Aumaua: African-american (muscular, rougher skin) Trolls (warcraft): Jamaican (accent) yeeaaahh, it's really foolish for game companies to use real world biology as a reference to create fantasy creature...small minded peeps... You just referenced racist (really, surprisingly and stupidly racist) pseudo-science, not biology. Also, I'll just leave this here: Edited September 28, 2014 by anameforobsidian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNationer Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Sexual dimorphism works both ways in a variety of species, and the female can be larger - I won't insult you by stating that you do not know this already, merely stating it so that were clear. I have not checked to see the size difference between the Orlan myself, but I shall take the fervour in this thread as reason enough to trust it. But above all else: 1) This is fantasy 2) It can happen in our world such as in the Hyena family 3) It may well be a bug To query is perfectly valid, to turn this into a fight is not. All you need to find out is which 1, 2 or 3 was the cause/reasoning. In the grand scheme of things, even relevant to this game forum, its not worth anyone's time to create equally antagonistic sides over it. Let's see if we can't get some developer feedback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Ultima Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 And when did I use humanoid as a category?A category is a group of, in some way, similar things. That's the only way you ever used the word in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiofs Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) Sexual dimorphism works both ways in a variety of species, and the female can be larger - I won't insult you by stating that you do not know this already, merely stating it so that were clear. I have not checked to see the size difference between the Orlan myself, but I shall take the fervour in this thread as reason enough to trust it. But above all else: 1) This is fantasy 2) It can happen in our world such as in the Hyena family 3) It may well be a bug To query is perfectly valid, to turn this into a fight is not. All you need to find out is which 1, 2 or 3 was the cause/reasoning. In the grand scheme of things, even relevant to this game forum, its not worth anyone's time to create equally antagonistic sides over it. Let's see if we can't get some developer feedback. Thanks for your reasonable post. I was never trying to turn this into a fight, but the people here on Obsidian are apparently not mature enough to acknowledge opinions that deviate from theirs. I was just pointing out a small detail I've noticed looking at youtube video's of POE. What other people's thoughts are about this and whether Obsidian did that on purpose or it was just a design flaw. There is an inconsistency in the body size of the orlan (their muscles are not proportional to their length), so maybe it was a design flaw? These trolls have never even considered this might be true, instead they get all upset at me for mentioning that. Edited September 28, 2014 by Kiofs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheisEjsing Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Human: Caucasian Elves: Asian (intelligent, feminine look, long life span) Dwarves: Scottish (accent) Aumaua: African-american (muscular, rougher skin) Trolls (warcraft): Jamaican (accent) First of all, that has to be racist in some way. And if you argue on the terms of the game, why would you compare Aumaua to Africans? The game already has black humans. Edited September 29, 2014 by TheisEjsing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNationer Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) First of all, that has to be racist in some way. And if you argue on the terms of the game, why would you compare Aumaua to Africans? The game already has black humans. I don't understand the statement either, only the human ethnicities are human ethnicities. The fantasy races are fantasy, and even the comparisons made are unbelievably archaic. 'Rough skin and muscular' Africans or 'feminine and intelligent' Asians? Puh-lease, leave those ideas out of a game forum. Edited September 29, 2014 by TheNationer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salo Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Luckily, at least now we know that OP was trolling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiofs Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Opinions that deviate from Obsidian fanboys = Troll Noticing a possible design flaw = Troll Criticizing their beloved Obsidian = Troll Talking about real world races without the intention of being a racist = racist = Troll I learned a lot from this forum about Obsidian members, thank you! Orlans are orlans. They are not fantasy equivalent of little people. If female orlans are taller then they are taller. It's like telling Tolkien that goblins should be vegans, orcs should be pale and Eowina couldn't fight because she should be in the kitchen.Your statement is racist and sexist to boot...stop that. Thats my thing! Human: Caucasian Elves: Asian (intelligent, feminine look, long life span) Dwarves: Scottish (accent) Aumaua: African-american (muscular, rougher skin) Trolls (warcraft): Jamaican (accent) First of all, that has to be racist in some way. And if you argue on the terms of the game, why would you compare Aumaua to Africans? The game already has black humans. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6520712844 (so many more of these topics when you search on google) None of these guys complained about racism, but somehow obsidian members do. This proves how close minded you guys are. I don't know why you guys immediately use the racist card. Does it feel good to be a keyboard white knight who fights "evil racist" people like me? Stop making yourself feel better by pointing every possible racist comment you see on the forum, it's embarrassing. It doesn't make you a better person. Edited September 29, 2014 by Kiofs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheisEjsing Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 You think it makes me feel better, that you're being a racist? That's really deluded.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiofs Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 You think it makes me feel better, that you're being a racist? That's really deluded.. Thank you, at least now I know that you are a moron who's incapable of detecting sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheisEjsing Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yes, I am the moron. You sure told me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeJunta Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I meant to say as a reference. Human: Caucasian Elves: Asian (intelligent, feminine look, long life span) Dwarves: Scottish (accent) Aumaua: African-american (muscular, rougher skin) Trolls (warcraft): Jamaican (accent) yeeaaahh, it's really foolish for game companies to use real world biology as a reference to create fantasy creature...small minded peeps... P:E isn't like this at all. P:E's humans have a bunch of ethnicities with different physical characteristics and cultural associations. Most Vailians are Ocean Folk who look like people of African origin, most Ixamitl are Meadow Folk who look like Latins, Boreal Dwarves are inspired by the Inuit, Island Aumaua by Polynesians, Wood Elves are found in at least two entirely different cultures (Aedyr and Glanfathan) and so on. (Which is a good thing because the list you listed is just... stupid. Clichéd, overdone, lazy, and dumb.) 2 I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Berman Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Thank you for your comment PrimeJunta. We tried to add as many ethnicities and cultures into the races and sub-races of Eternity as we could to cover a wide gamut of players from all over the world, which should be mirrored in Eora. And do it naturally, avoiding stereotypes. This will continue to be developed further and expanded upon... And yes, female Orlans are taller than male Orlans. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkon Swiftblade Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I actually really like that they made the female's taller than the male's for one race. That's fun. There's a few nation's in our world with taller ladies than men, I lost the stats but anyways good for them for having some fun creating a new race. It's one of those thing's like dwarven women having beards. Just enjoy it and have some fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wespenfresser Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 And yes, female Orlans are taller than male Orlans. I think that's a great touch! Although it makes me wonder, if that is actually somehow referenced in-game..like having some impact on their culture, sayings or something. Or at least being somehow acknowledged in a minor way. And if that means, that orlans might prefer women to be taller. Or if that has any effect to their relations to other races or how they are viewed. There is a lot that could be done with that. It's kinda cool either way. I might as well... - deviantArt - Tumblr - Facebook (warning: don't click, if you can't take evil, vile artists putting their name on their work.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtonw Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 First of all, that has to be racist in some way. And if you argue on the terms of the game, why would you compare Aumaua to Africans? The game already has black humans. You suggest the idea that Asians are effeminate or African Americans have "rough skin" might be racist? Your powers of perception are incredible. yo what up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shdy314 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 As others have mentioned sexual dimorphism in animals doesn't always mean males are the largest. Thus this is actually quite awesome and OP needs to pause and think before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) And do it naturally, avoiding stereotypes. -Short stocky bearded dwarfs who are strong and live in mountains -Elves with pointy ears and an affinity isolation and the for the forest -All other races that have Males being larger than Females -The fact that the female orlans are larger than male orlans is a stereotype unto itself. Just saying... Edited March 19, 2015 by Bazy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) After attempting to read through all of the comments I regret posting in this thread at all. Edited March 19, 2015 by Bazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striped_Wolf Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 To some spider species, it is common practise for the larger female to devour the male after copulation. How do you like them bananas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shdy314 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) To some spider species, it is common practise for the larger female to devour the male after copulation. How do you like them bananas? If there were a playable spider species I would love to see that. Then there would have to be a male spider companion terrified of sex. "PC-Name I don't mean to alarm you but I believe that woman over there wishes to copulate with you! Yes the flaxen haired one. Yes I suppose her upper abdomen is large. Oh gods she's approaching!" Edited March 19, 2015 by Shdy314 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheisEjsing Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 First of all, that has to be racist in some way. And if you argue on the terms of the game, why would you compare Aumaua to Africans? The game already has black humans. You suggest the idea that Asians are effeminate or African Americans have "rough skin" might be racist? Your powers of perception are incredible. Wow! Way to reboot an old thread PJ. (: And oowww, I just got burned. However will I cope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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