Let's All Watch A Fedora Man Destroy Himself Online

[Bryy]

Because it is that time of night.

 

I asked you about your hopes and dreams and listened to you bitch about your ex-boyfriend as you ordered that $100 bone-in ribeye and the wine with the fancy vintage you just had to try. You finished the wine but took most of the steak home in a doggy bag. I only now realize that it was the ex-boyfriend you were texting all evening, I hope he enjoyed the steak I bought him. By the way that “emergency call” you got after dinner didn’t fool anyone. I’m not stupid, unlike most of the guys you’ve dated.

 

I was wonderful to you, I was a gentleman. I treated you with respect, like a lady deserves to be treated. I enjoyed your company and you had my full attention. I didn’t expect anything in return except a chance to win your heart. I’m stable, I’m a good provider, I want marriage and kids in my future. I’m the man of your dreams, but you couldn’t see that. Or maybe you just didn’t care. You were pretty preoccupied with your texting.

 

But now you’re ready to date me? Really? You’ll excuse me if I’m not jumping for joy. You’ve dissed me, rejected me, took advantage of me, dodged my goodnight kiss and couldn’t wait to get away from me. Now suddenly you want me? Sorry, I’m not buying it. 

The rest is at the link. It gets.... super intense.

 

From http://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-steven/2014/04/dear-girls-who-are-finally-ready-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/

 

It's apparently real, just like that guy that is engaged to Twilight Sparkle and thus wants people to stop drawing MLP porn.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Bryy

[BruceVC]

Because it is that time of night.

 

I asked you about your hopes and dreams and listened to you bitch about your ex-boyfriend as you ordered that $100 bone-in ribeye and the wine with the fancy vintage you just had to try. You finished the wine but took most of the steak home in a doggy bag. I only now realize that it was the ex-boyfriend you were texting all evening, I hope he enjoyed the steak I bought him. By the way that “emergency call” you got after dinner didn’t fool anyone. I’m not stupid, unlike most of the guys you’ve dated.

 

I was wonderful to you, I was a gentleman. I treated you with respect, like a lady deserves to be treated. I enjoyed your company and you had my full attention. I didn’t expect anything in return except a chance to win your heart. I’m stable, I’m a good provider, I want marriage and kids in my future. I’m the man of your dreams, but you couldn’t see that. Or maybe you just didn’t care. You were pretty preoccupied with your texting.

 

But now you’re ready to date me? Really? You’ll excuse me if I’m not jumping for joy. You’ve dissed me, rejected me, took advantage of me, dodged my goodnight kiss and couldn’t wait to get away from me. Now suddenly you want me? Sorry, I’m not buying it. 

The rest is at the link. It gets.... super intense.

 

From http://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-steven/2014/04/dear-girls-who-are-finally-ready-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/

 

It's apparently real, just like that guy that is engaged to Twilight Sparkle and thus wants people to stop drawing MLP porn.

 

That's an interesting link and post. For me  the guy spends far too much time telling that women how fantastic he is now and how she missed out on a great opportunity. He claims he is normal and settled  but I would argue hubris is his problem, he seems to revel in belittling her and makes some seriously personal attacks. Its obvious he has been carrying some baggage about his past treatment by her and hasn't moved on or is prepared to forget the past. So she should consider herself fortunate he rejected her

[HoonDing]

[JadedWolf]

 

Because it is that time of night.

 

I asked you about your hopes and dreams and listened to you bitch about your ex-boyfriend as you ordered that $100 bone-in ribeye and the wine with the fancy vintage you just had to try. You finished the wine but took most of the steak home in a doggy bag. I only now realize that it was the ex-boyfriend you were texting all evening, I hope he enjoyed the steak I bought him. By the way that “emergency call” you got after dinner didn’t fool anyone. I’m not stupid, unlike most of the guys you’ve dated.

 

I was wonderful to you, I was a gentleman. I treated you with respect, like a lady deserves to be treated. I enjoyed your company and you had my full attention. I didn’t expect anything in return except a chance to win your heart. I’m stable, I’m a good provider, I want marriage and kids in my future. I’m the man of your dreams, but you couldn’t see that. Or maybe you just didn’t care. You were pretty preoccupied with your texting.

 

But now you’re ready to date me? Really? You’ll excuse me if I’m not jumping for joy. You’ve dissed me, rejected me, took advantage of me, dodged my goodnight kiss and couldn’t wait to get away from me. Now suddenly you want me? Sorry, I’m not buying it. 

The rest is at the link. It gets.... super intense.

 

From http://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-steven/2014/04/dear-girls-who-are-finally-ready-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/

 

It's apparently real, just like that guy that is engaged to Twilight Sparkle and thus wants people to stop drawing MLP porn.

 

That's an interesting link and post. For me  the guy spends far too much time telling that women how fantastic he is now and how she missed out on a great opportunity. He claims he is normal and settled  but I would argue hubris is his problem, he seems to revel in belittling her and makes some seriously personal attacks. Its obvious he has been carrying some baggage about his past treatment by her and hasn't moved on or is prepared to forget the past. So she should consider herself fortunate he rejected her

 

 

He's not talking about a specific woman, though, as much as a sort of archetype of woman. It's sort of a rant about how he thinks in general there's a type of woman who wants to date bad guys when she's in her twenties, only to later switch to a nice guy to raise a family with when she's older - because while bad guys are fun, nice guys provide stability.

 

But yeah, he sounds very bitter. I don't think he is such a nice guy as he thinks he is.

[BruceVC]

 

 

Because it is that time of night.

 

I asked you about your hopes and dreams and listened to you bitch about your ex-boyfriend as you ordered that $100 bone-in ribeye and the wine with the fancy vintage you just had to try. You finished the wine but took most of the steak home in a doggy bag. I only now realize that it was the ex-boyfriend you were texting all evening, I hope he enjoyed the steak I bought him. By the way that “emergency call” you got after dinner didn’t fool anyone. I’m not stupid, unlike most of the guys you’ve dated.

 

I was wonderful to you, I was a gentleman. I treated you with respect, like a lady deserves to be treated. I enjoyed your company and you had my full attention. I didn’t expect anything in return except a chance to win your heart. I’m stable, I’m a good provider, I want marriage and kids in my future. I’m the man of your dreams, but you couldn’t see that. Or maybe you just didn’t care. You were pretty preoccupied with your texting.

 

But now you’re ready to date me? Really? You’ll excuse me if I’m not jumping for joy. You’ve dissed me, rejected me, took advantage of me, dodged my goodnight kiss and couldn’t wait to get away from me. Now suddenly you want me? Sorry, I’m not buying it. 

The rest is at the link. It gets.... super intense.

 

From http://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-steven/2014/04/dear-girls-who-are-finally-ready-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/

 

It's apparently real, just like that guy that is engaged to Twilight Sparkle and thus wants people to stop drawing MLP porn.

 

That's an interesting link and post. For me  the guy spends far too much time telling that women how fantastic he is now and how she missed out on a great opportunity. He claims he is normal and settled  but I would argue hubris is his problem, he seems to revel in belittling her and makes some seriously personal attacks. Its obvious he has been carrying some baggage about his past treatment by her and hasn't moved on or is prepared to forget the past. So she should consider herself fortunate he rejected her

 

 

He's not talking about a specific woman, though, as much as a sort of archetype of woman. It's sort of a rant about how he thinks in general there's a type of woman who wants to date bad guys when she's in her twenties, only to later switch to a nice guy to raise a family with when she's older - because while bad guys are fun, nice guys provide stability.

 

But yeah, he sounds very bitter. I don't think he is such a nice guy as he thinks he is.

 

 

Honesty I find his whole rant steeped in misogyny and vitriol. He does seem very materialistic and  thinks that having the money to buy a new car automatically makes him a better candidate for women to date. I think its sad and I think he is embarrassing himself.

 

Yes there are women who like " bad guys", but so what? There are also men who are drawn to younger women only for the perceived sexual gratification and how it makes them feel. These are all factors that show an insecurity. I say if someone wants to date a "bad guy" then move on and find the right women who will appreciate you for what you have to offer. But personally I don't compromise on my principles and I've met  women who wouldn't date me because I didn't fit a certain image and that's fine. I have no issue at all with that , but it didn't make me bitter

 

[213374U]

He's not a "nice guy" in the sense that he knows precisely what he wants and seems to have formulated a careful strategy to obtain it. A strategy based on a perception of what his prospective mate seems (or should) be attracted to. He's created a fake persona for himself in a misguided effort to be competitive in the dating arena. Underneath, he may well be the sweetest, most loyal and selfless guy she'll ever find, but we'll never know, and it matters about as much as whether Tom Cruise is a wacko to somebody watching Mission: Impossible. 

 

On a related note, I like now guys being butthurt about high maintenance, immature and unstable bitches is something to make fun of, but girls whining about how real men are being substituted for man-boys and/or that all men are pigs etc is perfectly normal and something to empathize with. The subjacent machismo is so strong that it's almost as if the double standard here was being applied on purpose. Almost. Ironically enough, self-appointed social justice warriors and their white knight cohorts are suckers for this sort of twaddle.

[Amentep]

The link and its rebuttal linked in the article are exercises in narcissism. Neither writer appears to actually be interested in the theoretical other person in any way except how that person connects to them.

[Valsuelm]

WTB 'Thread ignore' feature on these forums.

[Malcador]

What reaction am I supposed to have to this ?

[Amentep]

What reaction am I supposed to have to this ?

 

 

[Malcador]

Hah, pretty much.  I guess outrage was intended ?

[Amentep]

I don't know if it was outrage or people going "Hell yeah!  You tell 'em!" in agreement or what.

[Orogun01]

The link and its rebuttal linked in the article are exercises in narcissism. Neither writer appears to actually be interested in the theoretical other person in any way except how that person connects to them.

Welcome to modern times, where everything has to be distilled into something you can get from a vending machine.

 

[Malcador]

[BruceVC]

What reaction am I supposed to have to this ?

 

I suppose you could have been offended by what he said to her and the way he dismissed her.  As I mentioned it wasn't just a " no I don't like you " it was a personal and malicious rejection of her attention. I was offended and annoyed by his comments

[Malcador]

Well that sucks for her, I guess, but nothing to be offended over here.

[Nonek]

Thinking on this poor gentlemans plight may I make a small reccommendation? If one wishes for a love interest who responds according to the amount of gifts and pandering one engages in, then Bioware's dating sim aspects would be perfect for him. Rampant protagonist empowerment and ego stroking seem well suited to what the gentleman wants, and the player may force his attentions upon most of the female cast, (or the male if he feels adventurous.) It is probably far cheaper than the alternative as well, though he may have to venture into the BSN to register, but I assume one does not have to interact with the "people" who inhabit that place when registering and downloading content.

[Amentep]

 

What reaction am I supposed to have to this ?

 

I suppose you could have been offended by what he said to her and the way he dismissed her.  As I mentioned it wasn't just a " no I don't like you " it was a personal and malicious rejection of her attention. I was offended and annoyed by his comments

 

Were you just as offended by the lady's rebuttal argument that did the same to the guy?

[BruceVC]

 

 

What reaction am I supposed to have to this ?

 

I suppose you could have been offended by what he said to her and the way he dismissed her.  As I mentioned it wasn't just a " no I don't like you " it was a personal and malicious rejection of her attention. I was offended and annoyed by his comments

 

Were you just as offended by the lady's rebuttal argument that did the same to the guy?

 

 

Not in the slightest, it was obviously a reaction to his initial vituperative comments. I'm glad someone responded accordingly

 

Besides he has a good career and nice car and that's what really matters in his world.

[Elerond]

I always think first that nice guy fantasies, where writer makes nice guy sound like entitled whiner that gives serious predatory vibe than anything else, are ironic mockeries about nice guy cliché, but every time I found out that writer is absolute serious with his (and writer always seems to be male) writing. 

 

But however it isn't fantasies themselves that make me always question wiseness of humanity, but comment sector which is always full of comments of support, misogyny, "way to tell those bitches that you should not mess with us (meaning self declared "nice guys™" )" or something similar.  

[213374U]

Besides he has a good career and nice car and that's what really matters in his world.

 

 

You tell 'em!

 

 

I always think first that nice guy fantasies, where writer makes nice guy sound like entitled whiner that gives serious predatory vibe than anything else, are ironic mockeries about nice guy cliché, but every time I found out that writer is absolute serious with his (and writer always seems to be male) writing. 

 

So the faintest hint of having a sex drive and wanting a serious relationship gives you a "serious predatory vibe"? Heh, okay dude.

 

The author is coming off as a sadly deluded, entitled, whiny materialistic prick. I can get behind that. But a "predator"? Come now.

 

FWIW, this is probably a hyperbolic troll post aimed at closet misogynists and white knights. The self-described "long suffering nice guy" author only has this post to his name and I question the sanity and intelligence of anyone that allows himself to be tricked to buy a dinner worth several hundred to a girl on a first date.

 

Then again, maybe I'm just a jaded, cheap bastard.

[Elerond]

 

 

 

I always think first that nice guy fantasies, where writer makes nice guy sound like entitled whiner that gives serious predatory vibe than anything else, are ironic mockeries about nice guy cliché, but every time I found out that writer is absolute serious with his (and writer always seems to be male) writing. 

 

So the faintest hint of having a sex drive and wanting a serious relationship gives you a "serious predatory vibe"? Heh, okay dude.

 

 

 

No, knowing what kind men and how many men woman has had sex, knowing woman's texting habits, etc. things make text sound predatory.

 

Impression that I get from narrator of these and many other similar fantasies are that serious relationship means sexual relationship instead of emotional, which is made stronger by narrator claim that know girls in their twenties are interested  about him with implication that they are willing to have sex with narrator. Which gives me impression that narrator has very different opinion than me that what consist as serious relationship.

[JadedWolf]

To be honest, both the original author and the author of the rebuttal article make me cringe, because both are incredibly self-centered and at the same time pretending to speak for large groups of people. No guys, you're just speaking for you, and guess what, nobody cares.

 

Well, no one should care, anyway.

[BruceVC]

To be honest, both the original author and the author of the rebuttal article make me cringe, because both are incredibly self-centered and at the same time pretending to speak for large groups of people. No guys, you're just speaking for you, and guess what, nobody cares.

 

Well, no one should care, anyway.

 

That's a good post Jadedmeister

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

A $100 steak and not even a handjob? This dude needs to up his game.