Bryy Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I don't care. I'm going to play PoE because I like the game, not because I want teh shinyz. Then why do you have a shiny silver badge under your avatar? huh? HUH!? ... that's actually a very valid point. There will be achievements on steam because steam requires it. The GoG version won't have them because GoG doesn't, thank god. Sorry to inform you, but some devs actually like putting in things you don't.
KaeseEs Posted January 31, 2014 Posted January 31, 2014 I would love it if achievements were awarded similarly to how most fate points were doled out in Arcanum - in short, for doing interesting and consequential things in the world rather than for completing stages of the main quest (Half-Life 2 is the worst offender in the latter category off the top of my head).
Silent Winter Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Games for those who like achievements: http://www.kongregate.com/games/ArmorGames/achievement-unlocked "Found the sponsor's logo" , "Moved to the left" and other such worthwhile commendations. http://www.kongregate.com/games/PegasGames/ragdoll-achievement-2 (the 2nd one can actually be a fun time-killer for like 5 minutes). (^tongue in cheek response, not to be taken seriously as a criticism of those who want sensible achievement records for PE)(Unless they want them in the GOG version too, in which case take it as a criticism ) 2 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ *Casts Nature's Terror* , *Casts Firebug* , *Casts Rot-Skulls* , *Casts Garden of Life* *Spirit-shifts to cat form*
Bryy Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Games for those who like achievements: http://www.kongregate.com/games/ArmorGames/achievement-unlocked "Found the sponsor's logo" , "Moved to the left" and other such worthwhile commendations. That is a great game and the acheevs are awesome.
Ailantan Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Even if achievements are in PoE game on steam, i don't mind - only if they don't pop up during gameplay. I know they are source of information for developers. But i don't want them to show up when i play. Like for example they can be shown under menu bar after you hit escape key. (Ones that you achieved during this gameplay session)
NikoBolas Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I like achievements, though I would prefer how to get them to be concealed until I beat the game the first time.
Bryy Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 I like achievements, though I would prefer how to get them to be concealed until I beat the game the first time. Dungeons of Dredmore does this, but I think it is more because it is so easy to get them.
khalil Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Achievements = Play Game.Sometimes achievements can add to a game. Example: The Part Where He Kills You in Portal 2, or that one in The Stanley Parable that required breaking into the source code before people figured out how to get it.
Bryy Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Achievements = Play Game.Sometimes achievements can add to a game. Example: The Part Where He Kills You in Portal 2, or that one in The Stanley Parable that required breaking into the source code before people figured out how to get it. Not playing the game for five years is my favorite. Batman: Arkham City has a good one, too. Seeing the Calendar Man on every holiday. Which reminds me: I forgot Valentine's Day.
catspwnme Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 ^ same. If it helps developers (which I never thought of!) then i'm all for it. But I think they take away from the experience of a game. Maybe in different game modes or something, but I would'nt mind NOT seeing them
TrueMenace Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 I hope the achievements are truly "achievements" in the sense that you put a lot of effort and time in achieving such a goal. I don't want achievements that are like "reach lv. 5". That is not meaningful. An achievement like overcoming a hard task is good though. Calibrating...
tychokepler Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 I feel like milestone achievements can be rewarding just as well as challenge based ones. 1
Bryy Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I hope the achievements are truly "achievements" in the sense that you put a lot of effort and time in achieving such a goal. I don't want achievements that are like "reach lv. 5". That is not meaningful. An achievement like overcoming a hard task is good though. Reaching certain levels is not something you put time and effort into?
Gyges Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I'm a loot whore so any sort of little bauble will do.
curtofranklin Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I really like Achievements. They usually give you reasons to go outside your comfort zone or encourage another playthrough. Obviously, they're not for everyone, but I think it'd be cool if they were in but with a couple of options such as turning them completely off or turning off achievement notifications, etc. I think it's silly to act like they're antithetical to cRPGs, because there have always been achievement-esque trackers in these kinds of games. Largest amount of damage done, toughest enemy killed, even the notion of gathering XP to gain a 'level' is kind of an achievement. Just because you get a little box that alerts you of completing your already arbitrary challenge, that doesn't somehow cheapen or demean it. Don't be a bunch of grumpy guses, basically. 5
Randomthom Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Achievements can be a great carrot for some people to try something they wouldn't otherwise try e.g. Beating X encounter using no magic, beating X encounter using only magic, beating X encounter by avoiding combat altogether. An achievement might be given for getting to a certain point in the game having spent very little time resting or having spent little money. I must admit though, I wish they didn't flash up on your screen in such an obvious way. In BG2 I love to periodically check my characters records for their most powerful vanquished (also, gotta love the word 'vanquished', you just don't see it much anymore eh?) I'm not really one for achievements personally but I can see the attraction and sometimes I'll go out of my way, especially if they've got cool names, it's an excellent chance for some funny cultural references Crit happens
Lephys Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 ^ It is rather nice when they're challenges in some form or fashion. A perfect example of achievements that irk me are like "Play the game for 25 hours!" Left the game paused and turned off your monitor for a day? ACHIEVEMENT! Or, better yet, a worst-offender from FTL (Which I love, btw... just not this achievement): I can't remember what it's called, but the achievement is "Fail to dodge 5 shots in a row with maximum engine (dodge-boosting) upgrades." ... So, the achievement is basically "Congratulations! Something completely beyond your control happened to occur!" Should we not start with some Ipelagos, or at least some Greater Ipelagos, before tackling a named Arch Ipelago? 6_u
Aedrin Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I would say that I personally wouldn't like to see achievements in this game. They certainly have their place but a CRPG is not really where I'd appreciate them. It'd feel to me like a DM trying to grip you by the nose and pull you through her idea of what your campaign is.
Allvaldr Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I love sensible and creative steam achievements, but the basic "simply playing the game" achievements offer nothing to the game. Also, pretty sure its not a hard rule that every game on steam REQUIRES achievements to be in the store but its definitely encouraged. Plus, steam achievements are part of the overlay. Personally I like those popups, but I'm almost certain you can disable the overlay in steam settings.
Randomthom Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I find that the pop-ups can spoil the immersion that the developers work so hard to create. I disable the steam popups but a lot of games have their own pop-ups too, sometimes not disable-able. (Is that a real word?) Crit happens
khalil Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I will say I dislike when games have their own popups, if only because I disapprove of redundancy. (Although it would be funny if portal 2 had done that for the part where he kills you.)
Hassat Hunter Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Well, 'simply play the game' allows devs to see how far people generally got, so they're not entirely useless (combined with a 'start the game' achiev to weed out people who haven't even booted up the game, since I generally notice that's around 25% if not more). And yes, ingame (Mass Effect) can be annoying. Saint's Row III and IV it's a bit too, but atleast they give ingame rewards like credits and XP aside from being just total fluff, making them slightly more bearable. ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee
Lephys Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Well, 'simply play the game' allows devs to see how far people generally got, so they're not entirely useless (combined with a 'start the game' achiev to weed out people who haven't even booted up the game, since I generally notice that's around 25% if not more). True. It's just that the "achievement" label is rather arbitrary at that point. I mean, I can look at a friend's Xbox Live profile and look at his Achievement list for a particular game, and it'll show me how far he's gotten. But then, I don't really care if I'm looking at an "achievement" list or if I were just looking at some kind of Game Progress page. The function would be the same, without arbitrarily lumping mere progress through a game to be in the same boat as specific "achievements." Should we not start with some Ipelagos, or at least some Greater Ipelagos, before tackling a named Arch Ipelago? 6_u
Hassat Hunter Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 It's a way of data gathering that people seem to accept more than actual data-gathering (for obvious reason). And I guess people prefer getting 'achievements' rather than 'game progress badges' ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee
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