redneckdevil Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Okay I am buying this day one.......butttt I am worried about something. I'm seeing a lot of Xbox logos and while I have nothing against Xbox, I am iffy about the expansions and such. Got burned by Xbox with skyrim with their 30 then 60+ day first dibs at dlc and I really really don't want that happening here. While I like Bethesda games, I abhore what they did with annoucing dlcs for pc and ps3. I understand it was their fault for going into a contract and not being able to mention pc or ps3 versions until after 30 days and even then the lack of annoucements and just a "dlc is rdy to be purchased right now" outta nowhere.... Again nothing against Xbox themselves, but I really really really wanna advoid that situation again. Lost a lot of respect towards Bethesda and towards Microsoft for that practice there and I'm worried about the same practice being repeated with seeing nothing but Xbox logos everywhere.
Keyrock Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Okay I am buying this day one.......butttt I am worried about something. I'm seeing a lot of Xbox logos and while I have nothing against Xbox, I am iffy about the expansions and such. Got burned by Xbox with skyrim with their 30 then 60+ day first dibs at dlc and I really really don't want that happening here. While I like Bethesda games, I abhore what they did with annoucing dlcs for pc and ps3. I understand it was their fault for going into a contract and not being able to mention pc or ps3 versions until after 30 days and even then the lack of annoucements and just a "dlc is rdy to be purchased right now" outta nowhere.... Again nothing against Xbox themselves, but I really really really wanna advoid that situation again. Lost a lot of respect towards Bethesda and towards Microsoft for that practice there and I'm worried about the same practice being repeated with seeing nothing but Xbox logos everywhere. CDPR has stated that there will be no platform-specific DLC, no pre-order DLC, no store-specific DLC, plus they will be giving 16 pieces of DLC away for free to everybody that owns the game, regardless of platform (that number is likely inflated to sound more impressive than it is and some of the DLC likely could have been bundled together, but still, it's free). As of so far, CDPR has never gone down the milking their customers with DLC or only putting certain DLC on certain platforms route. The only fear I have from seeing all the XBOX logos is that the game will not be as great on PC as it could have been due to it being held back by console development. 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Malcador Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Edited January 26, 2015 by Malcador 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Noviere Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 RPS Hands On With the Witcher 3 TLDR -- The world is amazing, the characters have depth, the combat is boring.
Malcador Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Hm, seems that griffin fight engaged him a bit, but I guess he may have a point about the fights being mundane (though, it is hard to have every fight be thrilling, I suppose). So far shaping up to be what I expected. Gamespot as well http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-and-the-call-of-the-sirens/1100-6424859/ Some of the best adventures in role-playing games aren't the ones the games script for you, but the ones you seek on your own. Last week in San Francisco, I joined a legion of writers eager to play The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. Developer CD Projekt Red intended for us to play the opening hour of the game in addition to a quest that occurs later in the story. Granted, I played those bits, and I'll share what those were like as well. But the most enjoyable journey I took happened when no one was looking and I threw caution to the wind. What might be waiting out there in this huge, gorgeous world if I set out on my own?You see, one of The Witcher's 3's vast regions is an archipelago. One of the quests I had taken took me to a nearby peninsula, but when I looked at the map, it was the islands that called to me. I had to know what I might find there--but I also had to get there first. My understanding is that there are boats to commandeer should you need to cross the water, but I saw no boats. Luckily, Witcher hero Geralt of Rivia has rippling muscles underneath the hideous scars that crisscross his body. He was more than down for the swim, which required more patience than it did effort. I swam for minutes on end--an eternity in video games, when it comes to uneventful travel--and the islands grew larger across my field of view.It was when I drew close to the shore that I wondered if I should regret my decision. There were screeching Sirens diving into the water: winged and finned creatures that shrieked their displeasure at Geralt's presence. My options for attacking were limited; I was in possession of a miniature crossbow, but was wasn't sure yet how to use it. I presumed I would be safe on dry land, and managed to avoid the Sirens that were nipping at my heels. Yet the shore was not a safe haven. The Sirens emerged from the sea and soared into the air, and descended upon me like any seabirds detecting their prey might.I was not prepared for this.Luckily, I had gained enough levels that I could take on these flying freaks. My first tactic was to swing my silver sword at them--the sword that damages monsters in the Witcher world. Of course, swinging wildly at things that fly doesn't get much done. I could damage them when they plunged towards me, however, and the circumstance gave me a chance to try out the effectiveness of my parry. If you recall, blocking and parrying inThe Witcher 2 took a backseat to rolling around on the ground, which was almost always a more effective way of avoiding damage than meeting your attackers head-on. In The Witcher 3, a well-timed parry is a great way of handling a soldier wielding a shield--or in this case, a great way of stunning a Siren swooping in to claw you. Stopping one in such a way gave me a few seconds to slash at it unimpeded before it zipped back into the sky.Once I figured out the crossbow, the battle became even more dramatic. You can fire off a bolt without aiming, but aiming allows you more precision, as well it should. In my case, Geralt had leveled up enough that time slowed while targeting, though this ability was not a guarantee of success: I fired plenty of bolts that arced under my target because I wasn't taking the pull of gravity into account. I didn't down every Siren, but I cleared enough out of the sky that I could explore without being mocked by a half-dozen of them at once, and found a treasure chest that served as the fruit of my labor. (I don't remember what was in it; the discovery alone was enough to delight me, as were the siren battles themselves, which functioned as their own rewards.) And when it was time to jacknife into the sea and swim back to the mainland, I realized that my crossbow was effective underwater as well, and while it didn't do much damage, it bought me time as I began the return journey.This wasn't an experience CD Projekt Red intended to showcase at t he event, but it's indicative of The Witcher 3's ability to distract you not with a dozen icons identifying where you can find "stuff to do," but with grand vistas and a real sense of wonder. I don't remember ever running into creatures that behaved like this in a game. I've seen sirens, but not ones that swam underwater and flew through the air; not ones that ensured there was no place to shield yourself from their wrath. Encountering such a thing then made me wonder what else might be out there. Knowing that there were more surprises lurking out there was enough to keep me curious--more curious than a map full of "stuff to do" is likely to make me.Avoiding the million-and-one-icons trap is a confident design choice, though I certainly didn't run out of things to do in my three hours with The Witcher 3. I wasn't just swimming to Siren islands (or whatever they might be called), but getting involved in politics and leaping into water wells. The bit with the well was a side quest, wholly optional, but it still crammed in plenty of story and intrigue. Like the political mission that would come later, this one required me to investigate using my keen senses. The Witcher 2 also allowed you to seek loot, see footprints, and detect scents in this manner, but you can now hold a button down as long as you like to keep this special vision mode active. It's a small but subtle change that makes looking for clues a natural action rather than an annoying one. And thank goodness for that, since seeking clues related to a well-haunting ghost was all the more intriguing as a result.A hop into the well and a bit of exploration told me what I needed to know about the spirit I had to banish. When I had performed the necessary ritual to draw her out, I realized that even my silver sword was not the only weapon I needed: my magical signs were also necessary. As before, Geralt can perform five basic signs: Aard (Force push, as it were), Quen (a magical shield), Igni (a fire blast), Axii (a charm that makes friends out of enemies for a time), and Yrden (an immobilizing trap). My sword would make no mark in the shadowy fiend unless I cast Yrden, which caused her to materialize, and allowed me to strike her through. And what a fiend she was, clad in a bride's dress and a laurel of decayed flowers. This is a dark and oppressive world, and enemies are not only frightening in and of themselves: they are symbols of the grotesque horrors that human beings visit upon each other. In this case, only a great act of violence can turn a once-vibrant young woman into such a hideous and protective ghoul. This small side story said a lot about what this place stood for, and what its people were capable of.The aforementioned political mission at first resembled the Orlesian ball sequence from Dragon Age: Inquisition. Geralt was there to hobnob with the candidates eager to rule the region of Skellige, but he wasn't eager to participate in the social niceties, and told his host he'd rather be doing something more interesting, a line of dialogue I interpreted as a swipe at Dragon Age. (CD Projekt Red assured me it was not, but I can't help but wonder; The Witcher's writers have a proven naughty streak!) Intentional or not, the differences between The Witcher 3 and its recent competitor couldn't have been clearer. Orlesians dress in their best finery for such occasions; Skelligens prefer mead and lewd debauchery. They prefer mead a bit too much, as it turns out, for it was poisoned mead that turned some attendees into werebears, and I joined several other warriors in attendance in taking down the roaring beasts.There were choices to be made afterwards; I could stay and investigate--but in doing so, potentially waste time--or I could chase after potential suspects and make some quick assumptions in the process. I won't spoil the outcome, but I chose to remain and seek answers, and as a result, I eventually saw my favorite candidate gifted with the crown. As much as I loved the bear fight, during which I parried, swung, and flung fire around the opulent banquet hall, I was more intrigued by the game's gender politics as demonstrated by the quest. The series has been rightfully criticized for its heavily sexualized female characters, but The Witcher 3 seems poised to address those concerns head-on, in this case with an honest approach to the troubles women face in political circles. There are plenty of strong women in this universe, but many of them are reduced to a notch in Geralt's belt. In The Witcher 3, I met plenty of women who didn't need sex appeal or magical abilities to loom large. It seems like we may finally get to remove the quotation marks from the word "mature" when talking about a Witcher game at long last.This is still Geralt, however, and he always finds room for pleasure in this weary and decrepit place. The game opens in flashback, with a younger Geralt relaxing in a tub while his nude lover Yennefer lounges nearby. And as with The Witcher 2, The Witcher 3 never shies from the contrast between passion and rage. It's as hard to miss Yennefer's curves as it is to overlook Geralt's deep scars, which are prominent enough to make me wince. It's in this opening sequence that you also meet Ciri, Geralt's ward and a warrior-in-training herself, though she would not be subjected to the trials that leads to a true witcher's mutations. At certain moments in The Witcher 3, you will experience the world as Ciri, though just how frequently is uncertain.I'm left thinking a lot about The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt in the week since I have played it. Its visual technology is undeniably impressive, but its the way that the technology is used that evokes such strong emotions. The lines on an older woman's face aren't just there to be there: they are there to remind us of her hardship and sacrifice. I think about its gameplay improvements: the convenience of mounting Geralt's steed, called Roach, and galloping across great distances, and the greater focus on looting and treasure-hunting, a focus enabled by a logical inventory system that replaces The Witcher 2's more cumbersome approach. Then there's the ability to eat a bit and replenish some health even when you aren't meditating. You might worry that being able to gain a bit of health during combat may assuage the challenge, but the benefit is minor, and every combat encounter I had required my full attention. This isn't an Elder Scrollsgame; enemies don't seem to scale to your level, so you might need to retreat if you find yourself in over your head.What I am mostly remembering, however, is what a strong identity The Witcher 3 possesses. You couldn't mistake this role-playing game for another. It isn't about fun as much as it is about standing up to forces that would see you dead--the forces of evil, the forces of politics, and the forces of a world so hostile that it's a wonder anything could thrive within it. Edited January 26, 2015 by Malcador 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Lexx Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) It's not like I played The Witcher for the awesome combat mechanics. Edited January 26, 2015 by Lexx 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Nonek Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I was more intrigued by the game's gender politics as demonstrated by the quest. Stopped reading, never mind gameplay, combat, narrative, plotting or themes, let's see if they adhere to what the moral minority judges to be correct because Philippa, Triss, Rayla and Marietta were such fainting violets. Morons. 1 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot!
Malcador Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Eh, it's a common enough criticism of the game series I guess he felt compelled to mention something about it. The RPS preview is odd, guy claims W2 was hard but Dark Souls was easy and that a boss fight where he had to experiment and try new approaches to beat was not interesting ? CDPR PR - http://www.twitch.tv/GOGcom Edited January 26, 2015 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
redneckdevil Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Okay I am buying this day one.......butttt I am worried about something. I'm seeing a lot of Xbox logos and while I have nothing against Xbox, I am iffy about the expansions and such. Got burned by Xbox with skyrim with their 30 then 60+ day first dibs at dlc and I really really don't want that happening here. While I like Bethesda games, I abhore what they did with annoucing dlcs for pc and ps3. I understand it was their fault for going into a contract and not being able to mention pc or ps3 versions until after 30 days and even then the lack of annoucements and just a "dlc is rdy to be purchased right now" outta nowhere.... Again nothing against Xbox themselves, but I really really really wanna advoid that situation again. Lost a lot of respect towards Bethesda and towards Microsoft for that practice there and I'm worried about the same practice being repeated with seeing nothing but Xbox logos everywhere. CDPR has stated that there will be no platform-specific DLC, no pre-order DLC, no store-specific DLC, plus they will be giving 16 pieces of DLC away for free to everybody that owns the game, regardless of platform (that number is likely inflated to sound more impressive than it is and some of the DLC likely could have been bundled together, but still, it's free). As of so far, CDPR has never gone down the milking their customers with DLC or only putting certain DLC on certain platforms route. The only fear I have from seeing all the XBOX logos is that the game will not be as great on PC as it could have been due to it being held back by console development. That's also my other concern, hopefully they can make a stand and just do the best they can on each platform instead of trying to give everyone the exact same experience by going by the lowest denominator and everyone gets that. They do that, maybe other publishers will follow suit and maximize each platform so that everyone is getting the best of what their platform can give.
redneckdevil Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) But I am very excited about this game though, looks to be shaping up to be a masterpiece. Edited January 26, 2015 by redneckdevil 1
Nonek Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Eh, it's a common enough criticism of the game series I guess he felt compelled to mention something about it. The RPS preview is odd, guy claims W2 was hard but Dark Souls was easy and that a boss fight where he had to experiment and try new approaches to beat was not interesting ? Yes perhaps i'm just a little sick of the accepted opinion, the Witchers produced some masturbatory fodder such as the sex cards eight years ago (though personally I never minded them,) but also pioneered some great self motivated, powerful, clever and independent female characters. Yet these are ignored or dismissed because they happened to be sorceresses or not fitting Gamespots acceptable archetypes. Meanwhile the competition makes simpering, unmotivated, needy and incompetent slaves to the chosen one protagonist, and yet are lauded because they include the ability to sexually harass and then force yourself upon a variety of genders and sexualities. Just a little hypocritical I think. 1 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot!
Keyrock Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Geralt's glorious beard gets shaved off? No. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I like how instead of going down a hill all awkward like still using the regular walking animation, they have Geralt slide down it sideways. Edi: Phew, they just confirmed it's possible to keep the beard. Beard Master Race for the win! Edited January 26, 2015 by Keyrock RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Nordicus Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Geralt's hairstyle in the new gameplay footage makes him look bit like an old Jetstream Sam, has a scar on the same eye too. It should be illegal to be that sexy Edited January 26, 2015 by Nordicus 2
Keyrock Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Geralt's hairstyle in the new gameplay footage makes him look bit like an old Jetstream Sam, has a scar on the same eye too. It should be illegal to be that sexy That, for whatever reason, reminded me of this RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
HoonDing Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 If only combat were like Revengeance. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Lexx Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 That reminds me... I totally forgot to continue playing that MGS game... "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Keyrock Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Sadly, it has been revealed that The Witcher 3 does not have 16 hours of sex scenes as falsely reported earlier in The Guardian. http://nichegamer.net/2015/01/it-took-16-hours-to-record-all-of-the-sex-scene-mo-cap-for-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/ #Witcher3 It took 16 hours to record all mo-cap material for the sex parts. This does not translate to 16 hours of sex in game. Thanks! Edited January 28, 2015 by Keyrock 4 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Malcador Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Pre-order cancelled. 2 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Keyrock Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I like to imagine that this was playing in the background during those mo-cap sessions: RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Malcador Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Must have been an awkward experience for all, I'd have to say. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Keyrock Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 In a related story, I'd like to announce my availability for mo-cap work for Cyberpunk 2077. 4 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
BruceVC Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Sadly, it has been revealed that The Witcher 3 does not have 16 hours of sex scenes as falsely reported earlier in The Guardian. http://nichegamer.net/2015/01/it-took-16-hours-to-record-all-of-the-sex-scene-mo-cap-for-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/ #Witcher3 It took 16 hours to record all mo-cap material for the sex parts. This does not translate to 16 hours of sex in game. Thanks! 16 hours did seem like a bit much but Romance is an important part of the dark and mature world of the Witcher so we should be expecting some decent Romance arcs and opportunities Edited January 29, 2015 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Darkpriest Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Sadly, it has been revealed that The Witcher 3 does not have 16 hours of sex scenes as falsely reported earlier in The Guardian. http://nichegamer.net/2015/01/it-took-16-hours-to-record-all-of-the-sex-scene-mo-cap-for-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/ #Witcher3 It took 16 hours to record all mo-cap material for the sex parts. This does not translate to 16 hours of sex in game. Thanks! 16 hours did seem like a bit much but Romance is an important part of the dark and mature world of the Witcher so we should be expecting some decent Romance arcs and opportunities you mean detailed pixelled sex scenes?
BruceVC Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Sadly, it has been revealed that The Witcher 3 does not have 16 hours of sex scenes as falsely reported earlier in The Guardian. http://nichegamer.net/2015/01/it-took-16-hours-to-record-all-of-the-sex-scene-mo-cap-for-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/ #Witcher3 It took 16 hours to record all mo-cap material for the sex parts. This does not translate to 16 hours of sex in game. Thanks! 16 hours did seem like a bit much but Romance is an important part of the dark and mature world of the Witcher so we should be expecting some decent Romance arcs and opportunities you mean detailed pixelled sex scenes? No, more the ability to have some sort of relationship with various female characters, like Triss, who then could influence certain decisions. For example " do you save Triss from the dragon or just get the gold and leave her to her fate" type of emotional and logical conundrum "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
ShadySands Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Sadly, it has been revealed that The Witcher 3 does not have 16 hours of sex scenes as falsely reported earlier in The Guardian. http://nichegamer.net/2015/01/it-took-16-hours-to-record-all-of-the-sex-scene-mo-cap-for-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/ #Witcher3 It took 16 hours to record all mo-cap material for the sex parts. This does not translate to 16 hours of sex in game. Thanks! 16 hours did seem like a bit much but Romance is an important part of the dark and mature world of the Witcher so we should be expecting some decent Romance arcs and opportunities you mean detailed pixelled sex scenes? With Oculus Rift support Edited January 29, 2015 by ShadySands 2 Free games updated 3/4/21
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