SophosTheWise Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 If they tell us about the Update before the Update it's like having an Update about the Update. A post-Update about the Update. "Hey guys just here to Update you guys what the next Update is going to be". I am making it sound more silly than what you intend. A heads-up what's coming our way is what I presume you're meaning, but I think the Update is a "heads-up" in itself as well. If Obsidian gave an update on Monday to say they'll be giving an update on Tuesday, then I'm sure people will be asking for an update the Friday before to find out if there will be an update on Monday to find out if there will be an update on Tuesday. Because after all, isn't that the courteous and considerate thing to do? Ridicule who you want, if it makes you happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grape_You_In_The_Mouth Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 But I sympathize with the anticipation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist II Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Ridicule who you want, if it makes you happy. I don't see the point in having a company beholden to you (or others) for them to tell you if an update will come out before an official update will come out so you can decide if you want to go to bed or not. Pretty much what the above image says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeetable Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Just remember, Team Eternity... If you go ahead and decide the update's NOT going to be ready, then circumstances surprisingly allow it to be ready by tomorrow, do NOT change your mind and actually present it. Stick to your initial estimate, because if you don't, you'll have lied. And not-lying is far more important than whether or not people get a pleasant update. unironically agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lephys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Heck, if they estimate the game's release date as December, 2014, then it later turns out that they're ahead of schedule and are going to be able to release the game in July, I'd MUCH rather they just wait until December to release the game, on principle. That reality coincides with their estimations is far more important than our reaction to reality. That's precisely why everyone's so upset. Not because their reception of the update is delayed, but because the accuracy of the team's foresight wasn't up to par. So, likewise, even if they're suddenly able to travel back in time now and give us the big update on October 29th, we wouldn't be as happy as if they had just said "you won't get any updates until the game releases" from the get-go, then held out a bunch of information on us until the game's release. So help me if they tell us there's going to be an update tomorrow, then the power goes out at Obsidian HQ tomorrow morning... My rage would be uncontrollable. Edited December 10, 2013 by Lephys Should we not start with some Ipelagos, or at least some Greater Ipelagos, before tackling a named Arch Ipelago? 6_u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SophosTheWise Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Ridicule who you want, if it makes you happy. Pretty much what the above image says. What's it to you? If it makes no sense for you that's okay, nobody forces you to read this thread, nobody forces you to contribute to it, so I don't see what your problem is. Not everything has to make sense for everyone. Some people like a forum's company while eagerly waiting for an update, others don't. That's it. It's not even that spectacular. Edit: Also, I repeat again, that I do not feel entitled to an early anouncement, I simply think it would be nice to know, so that I can arrange myself. I demand nothing, I state that I would appreciate it. I think when there's one thing I can be entitled to, then it is being entitled to appreciate whatever I want. Nobody has ever said anything about Obsidian being obligated to tell us so. Nobody. If you still think that you may have misread my earlier comments. Edited December 10, 2013 by SophosTheWise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist II Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Considering Obsidian have taken down the Project Eternity Logo again, maybe there will be an update this week with the backer site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SophosTheWise Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Considering Obsidian have taken down the Project Eternity Logo again, maybe there will be an update this week with the backer site. ...or maybe it's just a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mor Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Considering Obsidian have taken down the Project Eternity Logo again, maybe there will be an update this week with the backer site. Nice attention to details all the other subforum logos are still here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikolokolus Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Considering Obsidian have taken down the Project Eternity Logo again, maybe there will be an update this week with the backer site. ...or maybe it's just a bug. It's a feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jajo Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I don't see the point in having a company beholden to you (or others) for them to tell you if an update will come out before an official update will come out so you can decide if you want to go to bed or not. Pretty much what the above image says. There's a difference between having a company beholden to someone and someone writing one sentence - (probably)yes/(probably)no - that he knows would mean a lot to (quite) some people. It's a difference similar to someone saying "It would be nice", "I wish" or "It would be a good idea" and someone saying "I demand". Spotting such a difference might also, in some contexts, be a difference between being an idiot/douche or not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Protagonist II Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) There's a difference between having a company beholden to someone and someone writing one sentence - (probably)yes/(probably)no - that he knows would mean a lot to (quite) some people. It's a difference similar to someone saying "It would be nice", "I wish" or "It would be a good idea" and someone saying "I demand". Spotting such a difference might also, in some contexts, be a difference between being an idiot/douche or not. And that's what some people are expecting now. For Obsidian to update people before an official update is put up. A demand wrapped up into 'it would be nice...'. And when Obsidian don't confirm before an official update, then they get all butt hurt and disappointed. At any rate, it looks like the backer site will probably be up as there's been some changes today on the forums and the eternity website. Edited December 10, 2013 by Hiro Protagonist II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SophosTheWise Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The slacker backer option on the Eternity website is gone, as Infinitron pointed out on the Codex. Hiro, I suggest if you further want to fight here, take it to PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotra Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The slacker backer option on the Eternity website is gone, as Infinitron pointed out on the Codex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaldanee Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) i was just about to write a dissapointed comment on how it is sad that they didn't release the update this morning (i'm from europe) after all and then i realized today is tuesday, not wednesday, and the update isn't even supposed to be live yet *hits wall with head* Edited December 10, 2013 by lolaldanee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamaniac Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 " Obsidian Forum CommunityPandamaniac,BAdler has just posted a new topic entitled "Stretch Goals?" in forum "Project Eternity: Announcements and News". One of the topics of our big update was whether or not our backers wanted us to introduce any new stretch goals. Here is the official poll that we will be using to tabulate the results. Rock the vote. The topic can be found here:http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64736-stretch-goals/?view=getnewpost" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frusciante Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 "Obsidian Forum CommunityPandamaniac, BAdler has just posted a new topic entitled "Stretch Goals?" in forum "Project Eternity: Announcements and News". One of the topics of our big update was whether or not our backers wanted us to introduce any new stretch goals. Here is the official poll that we will be using to tabulate the results. Rock the vote. The topic can be found here: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64736-stretch-goals/?view=getnewpost" Where is that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensuki Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) He follows the forum. So if that's not a troll, it's just given him a preview of today's update. I'd be VERY surprised if it was real because who the hell introduces stretch goals in the middle of production on a small/medium budget game. Unless someone's been doing some study on Star Citizen. Edited December 10, 2013 by Sensuki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SophosTheWise Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 "Obsidian Forum CommunityPandamaniac, BAdler has just posted a new topic entitled "Stretch Goals?" in forum "Project Eternity: Announcements and News". One of the topics of our big update was whether or not our backers wanted us to introduce any new stretch goals. Here is the official poll that we will be using to tabulate the results. Rock the vote. The topic can be found here: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64736-stretch-goals/?view=getnewpost" Where is that from? Would also like to know. But it sounds like Obsidian goes the Roberts way. Would be cool if that's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frusciante Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Doesnt seem like a troll based on his post history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SophosTheWise Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 My guess for a new stretch-goal: - We'll provide you with an even better backer-site! Up and running July 2014! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSOCC Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Colour me intrigued. I'm camping out here tonight Remember: Argue the point, not the person. Remain polite and constructive. Friendly forums have friendly debate. There's no shame in being wrong. If you don't have something to add, don't post for the sake of it. And don't be afraid to post thoughts you are uncertain about, that's what discussion is for.---Pet threads, everyone has them. I love imagining Gods, Monsters, Factions and Weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolaldanee Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 interesting turn of events are they anticipating they might be running out of money? wouldn't be too surprised, 4 millions always sounded a bit low to deliver everything they promised let's wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamerlane Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 ... What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SophosTheWise Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 are they anticipating they might be running out of money? I think they wouldn't call it Strecht Goals then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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