Prosper Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) *removed* Edited August 3, 2013 by Prosper redacted
sorophx Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 that's what Mad Max is for Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe.
rjshae Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) You'd think that a horse would be the preferred mode of transport in a post-apocalyptic environment. But the only mounts I recall were the trader's pack animals. Maybe bicycles then... Edited August 4, 2013 by rjshae "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 I'd prefer hoverboards. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Keyrock Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Wouldn't you need cars, functional ones, to have traffic? 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
LadyCrimson Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 You'd think that a horse would be the preferred mode of transport in a post-apocalyptic environment. But the only mounts I recall were the trader's pack animals. Maybe bicycles then...Maybe, like cats, horses don't exist in Fallout. Good eatin'. 1 “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
WorstUsernameEver Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 You'd think that a horse would be the preferred mode of transport in a post-apocalyptic environment. But the only mounts I recall were the trader's pack animals. Maybe bicycles then...Maybe, like cats, horses don't exist in Fallout. Good eatin'. Yeah, according to the Fallout Bible they're extinct. I don't think there's any info concerning that in the game, not that I remember at least, but at this point, considering more or less all the Fallout games have depicted a world without horses, it might be better to just keep rolling with it.
Keyrock Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) "We now turn to Buck Stanley with the Freeside Traffic Report. Buck" "Thanks Chip, News Nomad 6 reports a brahmin pile up on I-95. Traffic is stop and go as raiders are on the way to loot the merchants." Edited August 5, 2013 by Keyrock 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
HoonDing Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Car crashes would be inevitable in NV engine. 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
AGX-17 Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) You'd think that a horse would be the preferred mode of transport in a post-apocalyptic environment. But the only mounts I recall were the trader's pack animals. Maybe bicycles then... Horses couldn't survive in the Mojave in reality without human intervention and the investment of significant resources and logistics of the kind nonexistent in a post-apocalyptic world. It's not like any Vault had records on how to tame and train wild horses (assuming they still exist in the Fallout universe, or at least the general region of the southwest, which is unlikely given the fact that it's mostly desert.) A horse can't subsist on Death Valley borax and the most parched Earth in the US. "Mounts," as a term and general concept, can stay in World of Warcraft. All of this is disregarding the combination of iffy Gamebryo engine mechanics and the fact that the game world in NV is far too small to justify a motor vehicle. The car in Fallout 2 worked because the region was full scale (the F3 and NV maps are basically scale models, you sure as hell can't see the Appalachians from anywhere in DC, Maryland or the Eastern half of Virginia,) and even by Highwayman it took days to traverse distances that take a couple of hours at most in reality with paved roads. And the idea of bicycle travel is just silly. Mountain/offroad biking isn't more energy efficient than walking, and it would leave you more vulnerable to attack. A cyclist can't outrun a car moving 2-3x as fast, how can a cyclist outrun bullets travelling 50-100x as fast? Walking is the most efficient form of transportation for humans, both in reality and in fiction, unless humans in fiction are powered by jet fuel. The NCR's railroads are honestly the most believable rapid/long distance transportation solution given the setting. Edited August 6, 2013 by AGX-17 1
Agiel Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Wonder how much effort would be required to import the horse-riding code and Deadly Reflex mounted combat mod from Oblivion into New Vegas, that way I can say this to Vulpes on meeting him in Nipton while mounted on a steed with a Cold Single Action in one hand and a lever-action carbine in the other: "I aim to kill you in one minute! Or see you hang at Camp Golf at Chief Hanlon's convenience! Which'll it be?" Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling
Walsingham Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Toy car crashes. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Humanoid Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Wonder how much effort would be required to import the horse-riding code and Deadly Reflex mounted combat mod from Oblivion into New Vegas, that way I can say this to Vulpes on meeting him in Nipton while mounted on a steed with a Cold Single Action in one hand and a lever-action carbine in the other: "I aim to kill you in one minute! Or see you hang at Camp Golf at Chief Hanlon's convenience! Which'll it be?" Be sure to remember to buy the horse armour DLC before you do that though. 2 L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G
AGX-17 Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Wonder how much effort would be required to import the horse-riding code and Deadly Reflex mounted combat mod from Oblivion into New Vegas, that way I can say this to Vulpes on meeting him in Nipton while mounted on a steed with a Cold Single Action in one hand and a lever-action carbine in the other: "I aim to kill you in one minute! Or see you hang at Camp Golf at Chief Hanlon's convenience! Which'll it be?" It's a different engine. And horses still suck in TES. And how would Oblivion melee/magic/bow&arrow mods apply to guns? Also it's Colt, not Cold.
Keyrock Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Wonder how much effort would be required to import the horse-riding code and Deadly Reflex mounted combat mod from Oblivion into New Vegas, that way I can say this to Vulpes on meeting him in Nipton while mounted on a steed with a Cold Single Action in one hand and a lever-action carbine in the other: "I aim to kill you in one minute! Or see you hang at Camp Golf at Chief Hanlon's convenience! Which'll it be?" It's a different engine. And horses still suck in TES. And how would Oblivion melee/magic/bow&arrow mods apply to guns? Also it's Colt, not Cold. What if he refrigerated the revolver, though? 2 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
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