Update #28: What We're Up To

[rjshae]

I hate this mentality where players feel they have to pick up and sell every last scrap of loot they find. It's just as bad as grinding out kills for XP.

Tough. Fine weapons and armor being priced out of reach of a peasant character is realistic. So is having to scavenge for some extra cash. What, do you want everything handed to you on a plate? Sheesh, suck it up.

[Darkpriest]

I hate this mentality where players feel they have to pick up and sell every last scrap of loot they find. It's just as bad as grinding out kills for XP.

Tough. Fine weapons and armor being priced out of reach of a peasant character is realistic. So is having to scavenge for some extra cash. What, do you want everything handed to you on a plate? Sheesh, suck it up.

 

Realistically speaking a full plate armor should cost you a small fortune, equivalent of a good estate... now imagine a magical full plate

[Olauron Mor-Galad]

If I can just ask one thing...can you please have some mechanic allowing the characters to carry as much loot as the have earned. Was playing some more Skyrim last night and there is nothing more annoying than having to travel back and forth between a dungeon and town multiple times just to sell off the loot.

I will disagree with you. You can just manage an optimum of price/weight.

 

As for Skyrim... You know, there is no weight restriction unless you feel the need to be able to run all the time.

[Methuseleh]

I wonder if we can get a mini-gate so we can throw in loot and have it land in the courtyard of our stronghold, piling it up like some scaleless dragon until the entire area is a mass of dinged and dented armor, a staggering monument to vanquished foes.

 

Then we can invite the local merchants over to pick through everything and make us an offer.

 

After all, it would be civically unresponsible to leave weaponry lying about unsecured where brigands or children might get hold of it.

[rjshae]

I wonder if we can get a mini-gate so we can throw in loot and have it land in the courtyard of our stronghold, piling it up like some scaleless dragon until the entire area is a mass of dinged and dented armor, a staggering monument to vanquished foes.

That's where Torchlight kind of got it right: sending off your pet to sell your extra loot.

 

Too bad that mechanic is completely implausible.

Edited October 24, 2012 by rjshae

[Upthorn]

If I were to overanalyze Josh's use of the phrase "good morning, America" I would imagine it came from an inability to intuitively comprehend the massive scope of his audience--not forgetting that there is a whole works outside the USA, but momentarily failing to realize that anyone outside his country should have any reason to listen to, out care about, what he was about to say.

[Tamerlane]

I think about half of [Project Eternity's funding] came from Europe, actually.

 

Also, this, apparently.

Edited October 24, 2012 by Tamerlane

[Arkeus]

Don't worry guys, next time Josh will read out all of the countries in the world at the beginning at the video.

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Here you go!

Edited October 24, 2012 by Arkeus

[Dwarfare]

What happened to that right hand, Sawyer? Injure it in the gratuitous high-fiving post-Kickstarter? xD

[Archmage Silver]

Good to see the updates rolling in while the design process is still going.

 

Now I just need to find the time to watch the entire tabletop D&D stream...

[JWestfall]

Whew! I was worried the whole team had ran away with all my money to some paradise location.

 

Now I just need to find the time to watch the entire tabletop D&D stream...

 

Yeah, me too, I caught the first hour or so and haven't had a chance to see the rest yet. It sure brought back some fond memories, though.

[Archmage Silver]

Whew! I was worried the whole team had ran away with all my money to some paradise location.

 

Now I just need to find the time to watch the entire tabletop D&D stream...

 

Yeah, me too, I caught the first hour or so and haven't had a chance to see the rest yet. It sure brought back some fond memories, though.

 

Plus there were weresharks (excuse the pun) - that has to count for something! :D

[Tamerlane]

What happened to that right hand, Sawyer? Injure it in the gratuitous high-fiving post-Kickstarter? xD

 

I crashed in the third lap of a cyclocross race Saturday night. I came down from a flyover and instead of riding on the outside of a banked turn' date=' I tried to cut across the inside to save time. The rear wheel slid out and I fell on my right shoulder and wrist. I was able to finish the race, but on Sunday and Monday, my wrist and shoulder were feeling pretty un-good. They're feeling much better now.[/quote']

 

**** do I ever feel like a stalker.

[NeoNight1986]

great to hear! thanks for the updates! cant wait to hear the next one!

[Hassat Hunter]

Yup, Europeans (and especially Germans) are the worlds biggest clientele of RPG's... so anti-European sentiment... loose it .

 

Also agreeing with everyone you should make choices instead of dragging everything and their cat to the store to sell. Unless it's a broomstick +6 you can keep your broom uninteractive.

[Archmage Silver]

If I were to overanalyze Josh's use of the phrase "good morning, America" I would imagine it came from an inability to intuitively comprehend the massive scope of his audience--not forgetting that there is a whole works outside the USA, but momentarily failing to realize that anyone outside his country should have any reason to listen to, out care about, what he was about to say.

I just thought he was making a TV reference.

[chisled2bone]

yea people def read way too much into things...

[Piccolo]

Tough. Fine weapons and armor being priced out of reach of a peasant character is realistic.

Of course. There should be no easy way to get good equipment early.

 

So is having to scavenge for some extra cash. What, do you want everything handed to you on a plate? Sheesh, suck it up.

There's scavenging and then there's powergaming. It's the latter I have a problem with, and letting players carry whatever the hell they want encourages the latter.

[rjshae]

Yup, Europeans (and especially Germans) are the worlds biggest clientele of RPG's... so anti-European sentiment... loose it .

Loose it? Mmm, I hear that eating a lot of fiber usually helps.

 

This is all a lot of misplaced nonsense anyway.

Edited October 25, 2012 by rjshae

[Gorth]

In terms of size of the game, I wonder if the physical copy is going to reach 4 CDs like BG2 did, or if the technology nowadays will allow them to optimize it better.

 

They invented these things called DVDs recently, they're pretty good.

 

I'm going to be disappointed if it doesn't fill up a dual layer BD

 

Room for a lot of developer commentary, soundtracks etc. on one of those.

[Ieo]

When BG1 came out, it was 5 CD (That was insane back then ). So if I could choose between graphics quality and game size, I definitely choosing graphics quality. I do not care if it takes even 100 GB on my hard drive and it it distributed on 4 Blurays. Let's make it nice, space is cheap...

 

All's fair--if BG was 5 CDs back then, then I expect 5 DL-DVDs/Blurays in 2014.

 

Of course, as others have said, the download will be the hard part. I don't know how much faster and available broadband will be across the world by 2014. I also have my doubts that Project Eternity would end up on hardcopy retail shelves.... Could Obsidian do a very basic POD for just the install discs (for a fee), I wonder? Hm.

Edited October 25, 2012 by Ieo

[JWestfall]

By the way, does anyone know what the largest PC game to day is...and how big it is (in GBs, excluding expansions and optional "extras", just the core game) ?

 

Do not know the largest, but I believe Max Payne 3 was 30GB (or just under) download size on Steam, which is pretty friggin big. The word is that DA:O Ultimate Edition is over 30GB on Steam (but I do not have it to confirm), and of course it contains expansion/DLC.

 

Witcher 2 on GOG is 16GB.

[Classic]

If this were a D&D game, you'd be able to hire unreliable npcs ("hirelings") to take care of the pack mule duties.

 

In one of my games, the GM decided our pack mules were going to revolt and we basically got all our **** stolen.

[AwesomeOcelot]

Every time Josh posts from that room I think he's broadcasting from the past, he's gone back to 2002 to really get into the Infinity Engine mood.

 

By the way, does anyone know what the largest PC game to day is...and how big it is (in GBs, excluding expansions and optional "extras", just the core game) ?

 

Do not know the largest, but I believe Max Payne 3 was 30GB (or just under) download size on Steam, which is pretty friggin big. The word is that DA:O Ultimate Edition is over 30GB on Steam (but I do not have it to confirm), and of course it contains expansion/DLC.

 

Witcher 2 on GOG is 16GB.

 

I have DA: O Ultimate on Steam, when I select to download it, it says its over 24GB, but I don't know whether that's with the DLC as I've never installed it, and I got the impression you had to install it from Origin. From illegitimate sources the DLC Awakening and Witch Hunt is 3GB, but that's non-installed.

[Hassat Hunter]

Well, can't speak for Steam, but you don't need Origin for a disk based Collector's Edition.

You just needed to log into your BioWare account (which is the same as an Origin account by now though, however no client is needed).