ogrezilla Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Confirmed user friendly mod tools if its something user friendly enough that I can make quests or dungeons I would increase my pledge. But I doubt that ever happens because that basically would require something like the starcraft editor for me to be able to work it. I guess that's not even really mod tools, that's a map/dungeon editor. Edited September 26, 2012 by ogrezilla
theseez Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Maxed out and will be eating ramen for all of next month, sadly Snarkmaster of the Obsidian Order and Planescape junkie!The Obsidian Order wants you!
IcyDeadPeople Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Confirmed user friendly mod tools if its something user friendly enough that I can make quests or dungeons I would increase my pledge. But I doubt that ever happens because that basically would require something like the starcraft editor for me to be able to work it. I guess that's not even really mod tools, that's a map/dungeon editor. Not familiar with the starcraft editor, but there is a big range of complexity and ease of use among various official mod tools. Even with the more complex and robust toolsets, there is a lot you can learn to do quickly without having prior experience making mods. Certainly, it takes a lot of time to become an expert with any toolset, but you might be surprised at how easy it can be to make and publish a very simple mod, like tweaking certain gameplay settings to your liking, or adding a random encounter or small dungeon, etc. I don't know exactly how much of the dialogue in Project Eternity will be voiced, but my understanding is that at least part of it will be text-based. Recording high quality voiced dialogue is one of the most challenging aspects of making a quest mod, so if we are able to make text based quests that integrate well into the base game, I think we might see some really fun and ambitious content mods, enhancing the replay value and extending the life of the game. Edited September 26, 2012 by IcyDeadPeople 1
Kai Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Pledged as much as I could afford the first day, the only thing I really wanted was a Mac port which I got. So although there's stuff I want more or less in the game, I can't pledge more unless I win the lottery.
ogrezilla Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) It wasn't so much used to mod the game, it was to make new content. It had menus where you could just pick units and terrain features and do it all point and click. You could use triggers and scripts and edit stats and all that, but I would love to just have the option to create my own dungeons to fight through. I can do the logic triggers like if this guy goes here then this happens, but anything that requires an ounce of real programming and I'm out. It was very in depth for people who wanted that. For me it was a super simple point and click level creation tool. The Warcraft 3 version was powerful enough to make DoTA (actually much more complex than DoTA which is fairly simple) which has spawned its own genre at this point. Edited September 26, 2012 by ogrezilla
Gecimen Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 More areas, more story, and eventually longer game play. 100+ hour games is my thing. Combat difficulty? Meh. Ironman? I'll pass, it leads to googling cookie cutter builds. Translations? Don't care. 1
Death Machine Miyagi Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Having more money. 2 Álrêrst lébe ich mir werde, sît mîn sündic ouge siht daz here lant und ouch die erde, der man sô vil êren giht. ez ist geschehen, des ich ie bat: ích bin komen an die stat, dâ got menischlîchen trat.
LordCrash Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Stuff which "real" connection to the project - in-game art, models, sound, dialogues, story, engine, systems,..... Show us how the game really looks like and the pledges will rise.
IcyDeadPeople Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) It wasn't so much used to mod the game, it was to make new content. It had menus where you could just pick units and terrain features and do it all point and click. You could use triggers and scripts and edit stats and all that, but I would love to just have the option to create my own dungeons to fight through. I can do the logic triggers like if this guy goes here then this happens, but anything that requires an ounce of real programming and I'm out. It was very in depth for people who wanted that. For me it was a super simple point and click level creation tool. The Warcraft 3 version was powerful enough to make DoTA (actually much more complex than DoTA which is fairly simple) which has spawned its own genre at this point. Considering that the engine will be isometric and based on Unity, I'd imagine level design features will be likely more on the intuitive side. Certainly it will be less complex with regard to lighting, DoF, etc., compared to toolsets for 3D engines. Edited September 26, 2012 by IcyDeadPeople
ogrezilla Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) It wasn't so much used to mod the game, it was to make new content. It had menus where you could just pick units and terrain features and do it all point and click. You could use triggers and scripts and edit stats and all that, but I would love to just have the option to create my own dungeons to fight through. I can do the logic triggers like if this guy goes here then this happens, but anything that requires an ounce of real programming and I'm out. It was very in depth for people who wanted that. For me it was a super simple point and click level creation tool. The Warcraft 3 version was powerful enough to make DoTA (actually much more complex than DoTA which is fairly simple) which has spawned its own genre at this point. Considering that the engine will be isometric and based on Unity, I'd imagine level design features will be likely more on the intuitive side. Certainly it will be less complex with regard to lighting, DoF, etc., compared to toolsets for 3D engines. ok then, I might have to change my answer. Mod tools as a stretch goal may cause me to raise my pledge. Granted, not that much as I'm still poor. But mod tools can potentially add an awful lot of extra "game" to be played. That's the stuff I'd want to add money for; not the extra stuff like books and maps. I'd look at a map once, say "that's neat" and never touch it again. Edited September 26, 2012 by ogrezilla 2
halobender Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 I too would love to see a mod toolset as one of the stretch goals. Good fan-made content would add heaps of extra value to the game and would keep me coming back even after I've compleated the main game. I'm not sure how feasible such a thing is, but it would be nice to know one way or another if it's within the realm of possibility. As for the pledge tiers themselves, while I'd love to be able to toss in a grand or two to this project without expecting anything in return, as someone on a budget I'm sort of looking for the biggest bang for my buck. Right now that's the $20 earlybird deal, though I'll admit to feeling a little guilty about not chipping in more. As a lore junkie, I'm a little disappointed that the novella wasn't included at the $35 level as that would have increased my pledge without a moments hesitation, but as it stands, I'm not all that interested in the rest of the bells and whistles that come with the $50 tier. 2
Shadenuat Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Catgirls. ...it's an Obsidian game, one of the last bastions of RPG's. There can't be more, only all and everything in a small hope of incline. In a Game of Incline vs Decline, you bet everything and win, or you die.
ogrezilla Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) I would probably give the extra for the novella if I could have an option of "Digital copy of the game and the Novella" with nothing else. Edited September 26, 2012 by ogrezilla 1
halobender Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 I would probably give the extra for the novella if I could have an option of "Digital copy of the game and the Novella" with nothing else. Agreed. Though I do wish we had some more information about the Collector's book: page count, what type of lore related info we can expect, etc. The vagueness of it all is what has kept me from increasing my pledge as of yet.
Sylvius the Mad Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 I don't think there is anything. I've already pledged enough to get everything I would want from the rewards, and the game is already getting made to specifications I deem adequate. I see no reason why I would pledge more. God used to be my co-pilot, but then we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him.
Highwinter Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Free international shipping. I guess this is a problem with how US shipping methods work, but the fact anyone outside of North America has to pay the same amount of shipping as someone in the US would be for a higher tier, is pretty disappointing. It completely puts me off wanting to give them more and I don't think any of the digital rewards are particularly appealing, especially things like wallpapers and ringtones.
septembervirgin Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 A mega dungeon. Really. 50 levels and big levels at that. I'd go up to 180-200 for a mega dungeon. "This is what most people do not understand about Colbert and Silverman. They only mock fictional celebrities, celebrities who destroy their selfhood to unify with the wants of the people, celebrities who are transfixed by the evil hungers of the public. Feed us a Gomorrah built up of luminous dreams, we beg. Here it is, they say, and it looks like your steaming brains." " If you've read Hart's Hope, Neveryona, Infinity Concerto, Tales of the Flat Earth, you've pretty much played Dragon Age."
kinemitor Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 many people have been talking about no firearms, but have a good read to what they said, firearms are something new in that age, so it will be a rare item you found like finding diamonds, or a rare boss so they have low relevance, that is why im ok with that
Raithe Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Heh, frankly with what they've said already I'd pledge more if I had the budget. As it is, I'm hoping a work related project gets picked up in the next 20 days and that would give me the freedom to throw more cash into the pool... "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Ieo Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 I've already pledged more for this than I've paid for any other game (short of auto-renewing MMO subscriptions), upped specifically at the beta announcement. Probably the only thing that would get me fired up at this point is Avellone declaring this will break 800k words without including world 'codex' text. The KS Collector's Edition does not include the Collector's Book. Which game hook brought you to Project Eternity and interests you the most? PE will not have co-op/multiplayer, console, or tablet support (sources): [0] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] Write your own romance mods because there won't be any in PE. "But what is an evil? Is it like water or like a hedgehog or night or lumpy?" -(Digger) "Most o' you wanderers are but a quarter moon away from lunacy at the best o' times." -Alvanhendar (Baldur's Gate 1)
Chippy Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 Kind of tough to suggest anything as I think Obsidian have pretty much covered it. So to nitpick on an irritation carried through from almost every RPG I've ever played - having to use outlandish and frilly weapons/armour. So if the crafting system allowed me to pick the style of an axe (from a selection) I would hold out hope that at one fitted a style I liked. Because for the RPG gamer who has everything - the only thing left to worry about is fashion. Although if implementing something like that is more work than and additional area, or something like tracking for a Ranger then it wouldn't be a priority.
Superdeluxe Posted September 26, 2012 Posted September 26, 2012 George Ziets lore/world elements Mark Morgan/Inon zur/hoening composing New continents/new lore would up my pledge as well, but there has been no details. Yeah it's nice seeing we get new areas and races, but I want to know about those areas a little bit ~Seattle Supersonic of the Obsidian Order~ Chris Hansen is the Savior of Seattle
Gorth Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 Having more money. Obvious answer is obvious, yet true none the less. I've spent my "disposable" income for two months and there just isn't more on the indulgence budget, even if they offered Jagged Alliance 2 grade combat. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Tauron Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I think I will upgrade my pledge to 140$, beta access got me most intrigued + all other stuff, it is just that I feel cheap now until next salary and than there is all this Obsidian Order thingie.
Guest Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I'm wondering if new tiers between $250 and $500 wouldn't help to bump some pledges. Seems to me that there is some wiggle room between the softcover collector's book and the hardcover with signatures that isn't being utilized. I'm definitely on board with the GZiets suggestion. I also really like the "making of" recommendation, though I suspect that such a thing might be expensive to make.
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