Wombat Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Yea, the Western theme is the reason why I held myself off but I'd put RDR to my sale-waiting list, too. Too many games to play... As for the integration, actually, I'm wondering which would benefit convenience from the integration or freedom of choices and market competition from the variety. Memory consumption of Win 95 series was terrible and the integration between OS and browser helped malware damage many people's data, for example.
HoonDing Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 just coming in here to say ?!? re people's thoughts on westerns... if you have not seen: 1. once upon a time in the west AND 2. the good the bad and the ugly then you clearly have not seen enough western films to have formed an opinion of them. its like saying you don't like samurai movies but you've never seen seven samurai or yojimbo... other insanely good westerns: unforgiven the wild bunch also westerns being an american thing? the two best westerns of all time were italian productions. not american. Kidding right? Call me when you have seen High Noon. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Majek Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Is RDR an open-world game? It's like GTA I heard. I might get bored of it afterall. Is it more corny 60s Western style or more "modern", a 'la The Proposition, True Grit remake etc? It's a mix of everything but most of the inspiration IMO comes from Leone's and later Clint Eastwood movies. As for you getting bored, well you will eventually but you have to try it. Maybe you'll even play horseshoes/poker/blackjack/... all day like i did. IT IS NOT IN ANY WAY A MASTERPIECE THOUGH. and you before me, don't argue about best westerns. There's plenty of them. Each decade had at least 1 and that might be an understatement. Edited June 24, 2011 by Majek 1.13 killed off Ja2.
HoonDing Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 The only GTA-like game I like is the Saboteur, due to its WWII-setting and over-the-top "Dirty Dozen" vibe. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Malcador Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Rainbow Six has morality Could be...something, I guess. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Purkake Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 They're a little late to that gimmick. I remember when Bioshock toted that as a great innovation.
Malcador Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Yeah, based on that bridge of example that seems really, really forced. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Raithe Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Saints Row the Third - Developer Walkthrough Just a bit of the developers showing off the new world and some of the tweaks they've added.. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Wombat Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Rainbow Six has morality Could be...something, I guess. It seems like a version of "Trolley Problem", which one of Obsidian designers brought up while back. It is designed to cause ethical dilemma but I wonder if it can be presented in a way to make a coherent story with convincing themes to the players without letting them feel that it's just a one-shot experimental device or a mere superficial gimmick in a nut shell. Bioware, for example, use the "Prisoner's dilemma," at times but the usage feels superficial since it doesn't find a place in their "morality" system. To be fair, in Bioshock's case, the "moral" issue was pretty simplified, too. Rather, it's the atmosphere what was successful in that game.
entrerix Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) just coming in here to say ?!? re people's thoughts on westerns... if you have not seen: 1. once upon a time in the west AND 2. the good the bad and the ugly then you clearly have not seen enough western films to have formed an opinion of them. its like saying you don't like samurai movies but you've never seen seven samurai or yojimbo... other insanely good westerns: unforgiven the wild bunch also westerns being an american thing? the two best westerns of all time were italian productions. not american. Kidding right? Call me when you have seen High Noon. i've seen high noon several times, its a great movie. its not THE best western though, its probably somewhere around number 9 or 10 imo. you really liked it better than once upon a time in the west? edit: mostly off the top of my head, these are probably my current favorite westerns (i havent seen rio grande, or any version of true grit, as well as a several other classics) once upon a time in the west the good the bad and the ugly unforgiven ox bow incident the wild bunch the searchers stagecoach red river high noon the magnificent seven hombre butch cassidy and the sundance kid Edited June 24, 2011 by entrerix Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
WorstUsernameEver Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Xbox 360 "about halfway through its life cycle"
entrerix Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 i think its one of those "the playstation 2 is halfway through it's life cycle" - quoted 3 months AFTER the release of the playstation 3... Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
Slowtrain Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 once upon a time in the westthe good the bad and the ugly unforgiven ox bow incident the wild bunch the searchers stagecoach red river high noon the magnificent seven hombre butch cassidy and the sundance kid That's a great list. But you're missing at least three. Rio Bravo: All time classic western of the highest order. One of Waynes best. And Dean Martin is freaking brilliant. The Outlaw Josey Wales: With due apologies to TGTBATU, and Unforgiven, to my mind Eastwood's best. Joe Kidd: Not an epic classic, but a stripped down small scale piece of grit that is always a pleasure to watch, even if FIck Van Patten does give me hives. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
entrerix Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 yeah i havent seen any of those, probably why they aren't on my list they are all in my netflix queue, i'll probably get around to them at some point in the next year. i've also been wanting to watch the stewart-mann collaborations, but haven't gotten to any of them yet either. and, while not a western per se, Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia is an awesome movie (slow start, but stick with it) with many western themes, just a more modern setting. movie lists are fun, i should write up my favorite zombie and samurai movies sometime. Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
Slowtrain Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 I've seen an embarassingly large number of zombie films. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Malcador Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Major hell in EVE now. Devs apparently plan to have micro-transactions for ships, ammo, etc. rather than just vanity items from a leaked internal newsletter, people are mightily pissed off. Lots of "This is EVE's NGE moment", etc. Hrmm. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Bos_hybrid Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Major hell in EVE now. Devs apparently plan to have micro-transactions for ships, ammo, etc. rather than just vanity items from a leaked internal newsletter, people are mightily pissed off. Lots of "This is EVE's NGE moment", etc. Hrmm. What's so bad about it? They should think of it as easy money. This will bring a bunch of 'noobs' with nice ships and cargo with no idea what they are doing.
Calax Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Well, according to the Kotaku article, they're charging 68 dollars for a monocle. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Malcador Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) That's the vanity items. But people are worried that based on the internal discussions, you can buy Tech3 ships and equipment for dollars rather than working for the ISK to get it. Also, that kind of stuff is just out of thin air in the game universe, which goes against EVE's whole player run economy (sort of anyway) aspect. Edited June 25, 2011 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Orogun01 Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 i i've seen high noon several times, its a great movie. its not THE best western though, its probably somewhere around number 9 or 10 imo. you really liked it better than once upon a time in the west? edit: mostly off the top of my head, these are probably my current favorite westerns (i havent seen rio grande, or any version of true grit, as well as a several other classics) once upon a time in the west the good the bad and the ugly unforgiven ox bow incident the wild bunch the searchers stagecoach red river high noon the magnificent seven hombre butch cassidy and the sundance kid Ahem, YOU FORGOT DJANGO. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Raithe Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Hm, and out of the blue Lucasarts and Sony have announced that they'll be ending Star Wars Galaxies this December.. I hadn't even realised that was still running... "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Malcador Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWb3cxA4g_U Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
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