main difference between russia and usa

[Malcador]

While that photo is sad, that cat sure is liking the hug.

[Walsingham]

While that photo is sad, that cat sure is liking the hug.

 

ROFL. I gotta say I think you're right. More bombs, LoF, more bombs!

[Freedom Fighter]

Russia is greatest military power ever.

 

Basicly, military power is combination of two factors: men and weapons. Let's check all of them.

 

Origin of Russian military traditions is very, very deep, more than a thousand years old. In fact, Russia itself borned as military nation. Russian military fanatism, which have roots in Russian Paganism, evolved after Russian Orthodox Church was formed. In Russian culture, best elements of Orthodox Christianity was combined with best elements of Paganism, thus forming unique warrior culture. The real peak of culture was achieved under Soviet Power. Soviet (from Russian word "vietche" meaning "council") is not just product of Marxism-Leninism, but traditional form of Russian democracy, destroyed by Czarism and resurrected by Bolsheviks.

 

I'll try to list main differencies between Russian warrior culture and other military civilizations.

 

1.Collectivism

 

One of the strongest sides of Russian army is collectivism and comradership. Because of Russian climate and hostile neighbours, Russian people are very collectivistic. Groups of comrades can achive more than sum single individuals, especially in war situation. Russian have slogan "die, but rescue your comrade", which explain this side of Russian warrior culture.

 

2.Communism

 

One of unique sides of Russia (and direct outcome of collectivism) is that Russian army has no such thing as strict hierarchy. If officer is killed, soldiers can make decisions without any orders from above. Russian army (both Pagan, Orthodox and Soviet) is sort of self-evolving anarchy, or, after Great Soviet Revolution, communism.

 

3.Self-Sacrifice

 

Self-sacrifice cult is present in most warrior cultures, but the difference between them and Russian self-sacrifice is that Russian (especially Soviet) soldiers don't believe in life after death. After death, there is only responsibility.

 

4.Responsibility After Death

 

Most warrior cultures see dying for Homeland as greatest military deed. In Russia, it is not so. In Russia, death does not remove responsibility. If you die, but fail your mission, you are still defeated. So, when most warrior cultures use "only over my dead body" concept, Russia uses "not even my dead body" concept.

 

 

 

Russia is probably the most successful scientific civilization. But prototype project and industrial production are different things. Before Great Soviet Revolution, Russia didn't (with several exceptions) have complex military industry. At command of Lenin and Stalin Russia became one of greatest industrial powers. Soviet system gave birth to most brilliant techno-geniuses in history - and most brilliant war machines, like Kalashnikov assault rifle, T-34 (most successful tank in history), LPL (flying submarine - hybrid of submarine and aircraft), Zveno (flying aircraft carrier), family of MiG jetfighters (all MiGs were brilliant), Flanker and Super-Flanker, Typhoon "Akula" submarine, SCUD, "Sistema" SAM series, Shilka, Tunguska and so on, and so on.

 

I'll try to list main differencies between Russian weapons and other military machines.

 

1.Collectivism

 

Most Russian war machines use "Combat Totalitarity" concept: they are linked together to form distributed computer network, which calculates best attack vectors, speeds, and so on. Soviets were planning to turn entire Red Army into huge, super-effective, ultra-intelligent living organism, which can wage war without any orders from above.

 

2.Attack As Best Defence

 

Russian military sees attack as best form of defence. Russian military. For example, after Second World War America was threating Russia with atomic bombings and aircraft carriers. So, Russians created - first in the world - space rocket that can attack any point of the globe in a matter of minutes. Americans wanted to counter Soviet superiority in combat rocketry by creating large anti-missile defence (project "SDI"). So, Russians created - again first in the world - combat spaceship fleet (project "Uragan"), which was able to destroy any SDI system in a matter of minutes.

 

3.Fair Fighting

 

Russian believe in fair fight. All Russian war machines are designed for long and hard battles of equal foes. Russians despise and never use such Western-style things as "hit and run" tactics, bombing of civilians, backstabbing of allies.

 

4.Responsibility After Death

 

Russians belive that death does not remove responsibility. So, Russian military machines can fight even if pilot is killed. Russians created network of "Vengeance Centers", controlled by artificial intelligence, which can obliterate enemies of Russia even if all Russians on planet are dead.

 

 

 

Today, Russians live, and their weapons live too. In competent hands, Russian weapons can kill many American invaders in "War on Terrorism". We hope that they will help to protect free nations like Iraq or North Korea against capitalist aggression.

[Humodour]

Most Russian war machines use "Combat Totalitarity" concept: they are linked together to form distributed computer network, which calculates best attack vectors, speeds, and so on. Soviets were planning to turn entire Red Army into huge, super-effective, ultra-intelligent living organism, which can wage war without any orders from above.

 

Oh, okay.

[Morgoth]

Most Russian war machines use "Combat Totalitarity" concept: they are linked together to form distributed computer network, which calculates best attack vectors, speeds, and so on. Soviets were planning to turn entire Red Army into huge, super-effective, ultra-intelligent living organism, which can wage war without any orders from above.

 

Oh, okay.

How dare you make this grave insult to the glorious Russian nation?

[Walsingham]

One of unique sides of Russia (and direct outcome of collectivism) is that Russian army has no such thing as strict hierarchy. If officer is killed, soldiers can make decisions without any orders from above. Russian army (both Pagan, Orthodox and Soviet) is sort of self-evolving anarchy, or, after Great Soviet Revolution, communism.

 

4.Responsibility After Death

 

Russians belive that death does not remove responsibility. So, Russian military machines can fight even if pilot is killed. Russians created network of "Vengeance Centers", controlled by artificial intelligence, which can obliterate enemies of Russia even if all Russians on planet are dead.

 

I would field a counter-analysis, but the Frunze academy themselves disagree on your first point. Look up combat leadership in Afghanistan. Or in fact anything at all from The Great Patriotic War.

 

Not so sure about your unkillable murder tanks in point 4. Sounds terrifying.

Edited May 11, 2011 by Walsingham

[Freedom Fighter]

First I want to tell you about Soviet portable missile launchers - "Strela" and "Igla".

 

It was bloody summer of 1992 year. Shevarnadze became "czar" of "independant Georgia" and friend of that butcher Yeltsin after coup d'etat in 1991 year. When fascist jerk Shevarnadze received help in reconstruction of Tbilisi from Moscow goverment (Popov and Luzhkov), he started war against abkhazian nation. Bands of Georgian nazis attacked recreation cities Gagry and Suhumi to kill hundreds of Russian women and children. Georgian air force commander personally piloted his Su-25 "Grach" (these magnificent Soviet machine was nicknamed "Grach" for its ability to hit hardest targets - it is much more efficient then American A-10 "Thunderbolt"!) to destroy ships with Russian refugees. "Democratical" Russian goverment stood idle by while fascist regime of Shevarnadze slaughtered Russians. And once again, there was man with honor to protest against this - and once again it was Spetsnaz soldier. It was summer morning, when man with "Strela" missile launcher stood against aircraft. First missile Spetsnaz launched "locked sun" and missed. Georgian pilot spotted launch and moved into attack position - he was an experienced ace (two medals for Afghanistan war). Seconds remain before missile strikes. Spetsnaz supposed to run away, but that would mean that killings of Russian refugees would go on. Spetsnaz took second "Strela". It was suicide, because if he misses, he would be killed; and in all cases he would be burned by flame of starting engine. But he was Spetsnaz, and he never stepped back. He launched "Strela". Missile rushed to Georgian assault aircraft, sending black soul of black colonel to black chasms of hell. After that event, nobody attacked ships with Russian refugees.

 

Anyway, Soviets also had "Igla"-class PZRK missiles. Even "Igla-1" is six times better than "Strela-2M". This is anti-aircraft missiles of new generation, designed to blast away heavily-armored targets which will try to distract anti-aircraft missiles with decoys. Americans thought that their "Stingers" are the best - and they were wrong. Iraq war proved it. When anti-air defences of Iraq were destroyed by approximately 200 Western aircrafts, arabs still had "Strela" and "Igla" launchers. "Igla" proved to be superior to "Stinger" in all ways. Maximum attack heights of "Igla" and "Stinger" is approximately equal - 3500 meters. But while "Stinger" can hit only targets above 30 meters, "Igla" can hit targets which are even 10 meters close to surface. "Stinger" cannot hit targets which move faster than 340 meters per second, while "Igla" can blast targets even if they move 400 meters per second. Probability of succesful attack with "Stinger" is low - only 30%, while probability of succesful attack with "Igla" is 60% - that's twice more efficient! Also, "Igla" is lighter than "Stinger" and carries more powerful warhead, then "Stinger". Moreover, "Stinger" takes 30 seconds to arm, while "Igla" can be armed in 10-13 seconds - that's crucial in war time. Also, "Stinger" has low range - only 4500 meters, while "Igla" has 5200 meters range. But that is not all. Fuel of "Igla" missile is incendiary, and becomes part of warhead when missile strikes. Also, when "Igla" strikes target, it pierces armor and only then explodes, causing more damage. "Igla" has unique computer system, which strikes only most crucial spots of target. But the most exciting thing in "Igla" is GSN (golovka samonavedenya) - targeting system of "Igla". The catch is that this system cannot be jammed. GSN is also equipped with logic selector bloc, which ignores even most advanced American decoys. So, all dumb capitalist tricks are useless against this miracle of Soviet technology. Americans had used all their resources to get Soviet GSN. That was done only after "democratical" took power in Russia. When "Chubays Era" began, Soviet GSN was bought by "NOSKA" company from Poland. Americans thought that they can use these Soviet GSNs against Russians. Wrong! GSN of "Igla" doesn't lock Russia-controlled aircrafts! That's why Chechen terrorists couldn't use "Igla" launchers against Russian forces! Also, "Igla" is very strong and reliable (just as all Soviet machinery) - you can throw it, you can even fire at it, but it will still be fully functional. Commander of Russian division, armed with "Igla" launchers, has Soviet computer which receives telecode information from control centers. It shows positions, coordinates, hell, even countries, of enemy air units. And now imagine how powerful would be new generation of "Igla" missiles, based on sub-micron Soviet computer chips, produced using Kumakhov x-ray lens!

 

Soviet control systems are best in the world - every kid knows that. Soviet machines are miracles of cybernetics. They form huge chains, merging all Soviet unints into one humongous cyber-organism. Quite in communist style! This principle is called "boyevaya totalitarnost" ("battle totalitarity"). Let's check characteristics of them. "Senezh-M1E" (weakened, export variant!): range - 600 kilometers, maximum number of tracked targets - 120, units controlled - 17 ground units and 6 fighters. That is much better than American counterparts "Missile-Minder", "Sage" and English "Nomad". Russian control complex is faster, more agile and more efficient. And it simulatiously coorinates actions of fighters and missiles - first in the world! They look like quite ordinary "Ural" trucks, but they are really super-efficient coordination machines. But that is not all. Other Russian control system, called "Rubezh-ME", can link up to 21 interceptors which can start from three different airstrips.

 

And Russians also have best lasers in the world! American lasers are nothing without magnificent Soviet "Pamir ZU" MGD generator they bought from post-Soviet Russia (Americans from RA2 didn't have Soviet "Pamir ZU", so Prism Tanks and Prism Towers are unrealistic!)! Soviet lasers can destroy American aircrafts, missiles and sattelites without problems. But this lasers can also be modified to be used in industry and farming. They Soviet machines proved to be efficient and reliable. Imagine rays of light which vaporize locust swarms! Instrument of Gods!

 

And of course, Soviets have best sensors. Let's take ZGRLS as example - radars which see beyond horizon. Rays of ordinary radar cannot view area beyond horizon - because Earth is round thing. If you want to scan 3000 kilometers around, you need to set radar at 20-25 kilometers height. But in 1946 Soviet scientist Nicolai Kabanov devised short-wave sensor, which can scan 3000 kilometers around from ground level! This machine uses radiowave reflections from ionosphere layers approximately 50 kilometers above surface. That was a long way, but Russians finally managed to create fully-functional model of ground-based ZGRLS. They devised project of flying ZGRLS, but it was not finished because of break-up of Soviet Union. But still - Russians have ZGRLS! Even Russian missile boats use them! Also, it was Soviets who developed long-wave sensors, which can perfectly see so-called "stealth" aircrafts ("stealth" aircrafts can hide only from short-wave radars). Russian "Kasta-2-1" can perfectly detect "stealth" aircrafts, pilotless miniature recon planes and helicopters which try to hide behind hills. "Kasta-2-2" can even calculate absolutely accurate height of target. Also, Soviets have "Protivnik-GE". It scans area in 400 kilometer radius. It detects "stealth" aircrafts in 150 kilometer radius (other Soviet anti-"stealth" machines, like "Aerobot", can detect "stealth" aircrafts in 500 kilometer radius). Moreover, it can see space targets - everything that moves below 120 kilometers would be detected. This radar cannot be jammed, and it is very mobile - it takes only 70 minutes to deploy and needs only two operators. Also, Soviets have E-801 radar, used to monitor air and sea targets and detect low-height targets (like "Tomahawk" cruise missiles). This radar is carried by Ka-31 helicopter. Group of such helicopters can patrol areas near vital objects of Russia, protecting them from American cruise missiles. Moreover, it can be carried by zeppelins, which are cheap to build and maintain and can hover in the air for weeks! Of course, America can use anti-radar missiles. But Russians have "Baryer" system. This is system of receivers and transmitters, which consume power, equal to power of conventional cellular phone, but can detect any cruise missile, "stealth" aircraft or anything else. No radioabsorbing cover can hide from "Baryer". Space from one "Baryer" system to another - 50 kilometers, that means 10 systems (that's extremely cheap!) can protect 500 kilometers. But that is not all! Soviet Institute of Control Problems devised new technology of detection: it detects not object itself, but trace object creates (both in air and in water). And this trace will always be - even if American machines would be 100% invisible to radar! Every Soviet radar can tuned to use this technique! All American "stealth" aircrafts are completely visible for Soviet machines! Trillions of American taxpayers' dollars, spent on "stealth" projects, went down the drain! Yet another glorius victory of glorious Soviet science - most advanced science in the world!

 

Of course, Russians have more traditional, but not less destructive weaponry. That is different modifications of Su-27 (which is faster, more maneurable and has better missiles, than American F-15), Su-37 (with fully controllable thrust vector and supernaturally agile air-to-air missiles), MiG-29 (which is even more maneurable, then Su-27), MiG-31 (best heavy fighter in the world, great interceptor with powerful phase array radar, which cannot be jammed, and with deadliest long-range missiles ever created), A-50 and An-71 (Soviet DRLO (AWACS) planes, which are better, then American counterparts).

 

Let's think about MiG-31. In comparision with MiG-29 or Su-27 it looks heavy and clumsy, but it is best heavy fighter in the world. First MiG-31 took off in 1979 year, that is many years ago. There's also modification of this plane - MiG-31M. It carries phase array radar, which can see so-called "stealth" aircrafts. It can function like heavy patrol fighter, moving in group of four and coordinating attacks of light fighters like Su-27 and MiG-29. But it is also a great interceptor. It carries air-to-air missiles with approximately 425 kilometers range. American best long-range missile "Phoenix" has only 130 kilometers range, but only F-14 fighters can carry them ("Phoenix" is inferior to Soviet missiles: even outdated Soviet missile R-33 has range of "Phoenix", and R-33 can be mounted on almost any Soviet aircraft). Do you understand, what it means? It means that MiG-31 fighters will blow away all American planes without even entering their scanning range! Absolute air superiority! MiG-31 can even be used against American AWACS planes, blinding American air forces! Soviet technology proved to be superior once again! Now, don't tell me that Americans have better planes - that is simply wrong! Soviet planes are the best!

Edited May 12, 2011 by Freedom Fighter

[Walsingham]

What the **** is this? You sound like some kind of deranged door to door weapons salesman.

 

Soviet control systems are best in the world - every kid knows that. Soviet machines are miracles of cybernetics. They form huge chains, merging all Soviet unints into one humongous cyber-organism. Quite in communist style!

 

I don't know what kind of Stalinist super-skunk you're smoking. But I'd quite like to try some.

[Freedom Fighter]

Hello, my capitalist friends. Yet again I continue to prove absolute Soviet superiority in military technology. I am not saying all American products are bad. Americans have better civilian cars and toilet paper, but in high-tech fields Soviets are unmatched!

 

Russian technology is absolutely superior. One Russian rouble beats millions of American bucks on battlefield. Here's another proof of this obvious fact. In 1980ies, glorious Red Army was equipped with 3M-80E "Moskit" missile (NATO classification: "Sunburn" - guess how it get this name!). Purpose of this excellent (just like all Soviet weapons) missile is to destroy enemy sea forces. Freighers? Yes. Destroyers? Yes. Cruisers? No problem. Huge extra-expensive aircraft carriers? As easy as anything else! This 9.3 meter long missile is another masterpiece of advanced Soviet technology. Being extremely cheap to consruct, it is the deadliest anti-ship missile on Earth. It moves with speed 2.5 mach on 5 meter height. Such tremendous speed don't give pathetic American computers time to calculate its trajectory! Even if Americans would already be prepared to "Moskit" assault, their puny computers cannot track such missile! This missile moves in the cloud of water vapor, invisible for radars. It has individual targeting system - laser ray or infrared sensor. Just like all Russian missiles, "Moskit" has instruments of radioelectronic warfare. Even one missile is enough to blind puny American radars! But even outdated "Tarantul"-class missile boat can launch swarm of four "Moskits" in 15 seconds! It is not quite right to call this Soviet superweapon "missile". It is better described as "supersonic kamikazi-robot". This missile rushes to target, using active-passive targeting system. Then this "kamikazi-robot" launches maneur program - like "left-right-left-target". While doing this, "Moskit" turns on more than 90 degrees on full speed - and hull of this "kamikazi-robot" perfectly survives it! This brilliant maneur ruins ANY American defense plan! Puny American computers will probably smoke from such hard task, ha-ha! OK, let's imagine that Americans used some super-secret computer technology (stolen from Roswell aliens, probably) and manage to calculate trajectory and launch anti-missile rockets. SO WHAT?! NO AMERICAN MISSILE CAN INTERCEPT "MOSKIT" WHILE IT IS DOING HIS MANEUR! EVEN IF THEY TRY, AMERICAN MISSILES WILL BE SIMPLY TEARED APART BY HUMONGOUS OVERLOADS, HA-HA-HA! OK, let's imagine Americans use alien anti-missile rockets, which can survive such overloads. SO WHAT?! THEY CAN BE LAUNCHED ONLY ONE TIME, BECAUSE "MOSKIT" LAUNCHES TOO FAST! And maneurs of "Moskit" are UNPREDICTABLE, so you Americans better train some psionics to predict where Soviet missiles are going to strike! Nevertheless, regardless of where this "kamikazi-robot" strikes, it will disable American ship. Also, this "kamikazi-robot" is extremely smart. Its board computer cannot be tricked by decoys (moreover, this missile also tracks radiation from enemy radar!). If missile is ordered to sink aircraft carrier, then it will sink aircraft carrier. Yes, my capitalist friends, it can easily sink aircraft carrier, or even battleship! It has armor-piercing warhead (constructed basing on other excellent Soviet technologies) - and it moves with 2.5 mach speed, weighting 4 tons! Anti-armor warhead of "Moskit" can pierce even super-thick armor of battleship. Armor merican aircraft carrier? IT WILL PIERCE IT LIKE HOT KNIFE PIERCES BUTTER! When missile is inside enemy target, it explodes, BURNING AMERICAN SHIP FROM INSIDE. 150 kilograms of explosives (created basing on excellent Soviet chemical technologies), it disables enemy ship with one shot. Engineering bay, fuel tanks and ammo depot will explode, and billions of American bucks will go down the drain. I repeat - this missile is EXTREMELY cheap to construct. You probably think that this "kamikazi-robot" has only limited use, my capitalist friends? WRONG! "Moskit" can be carried by Russian missile boats, by destroyers, by skimmers (yes, by super-efficient Soviet skimmers!), by military planes, by ground-based coast defence systems, by excellent Soviet screencrafts, by anything! Hell, "Moskit" can be carried even by carrier-based Su-27 fighters. What American "Harpoon" anti-ship missiles looks like compared to "Moskit"? LIKE STONE HAMMERS COMPARED WITH KALASHNIKOV ASSAULT RIFLES! And "Harpoon" (as any pathetic Western weapon) is MUCH more costly, then "Moskit"! So, how does "American naval superiority" look now, eh? Few missile boats or fighters, armed with "Moskit", can blast to bits any "advanced" American fleet in seconds (I repeat - ONE extra-cheap Russian missile is enough to sink American ship which costs billions of bucks)! American ground army sux (sea nation will never defeat continental empire (like **** Germany or Soviet Russia) on land), American air force sux, American navy sux.

 

By the way, about those tiny "Tarantul" boats, which carry "Moskits". THAT IS SIMPLY THE BEST MISSILE BOAT ON EARTH! Even without "Moskits", this boat wins any duel with American destroyer. Here we go. Missile boat mark 12421, also known as "Tarantul-III". Carries four "Moskit" launchers, 12 "Igla-1M" mini-missiles (which beat puny American "Stingers" in all fields!), one 76 milimeter AK-176M gun, two 30 milimeter AK-630M guns, "Kortik" defence systems ("fast weapon", which shots 10000 rounds per minute - this amazing defence system protects "Tarantul-III" from ANY bombs or anti-ship missiles!). "Tarantul-III" is equipped with one of the best ship control systems on planet. I am talking about ZTz-80E, which turns "Tarantul-III" into super-effective military cyborg, combining professionalism of pilot with efficiency of computer. But the deadlies weapon is, like I said, "Moskits". "Moskits" can attack any target, which in 120-130 kilometers range. YES, SENSORS OF "TARANTUL-III" CAN SEE BEYOND HORIZON! How? Well, "Taratnul-III" is equipped with "Garpun-Bal-E" active-passive computerised system, which use ionosphere reflections to see beyond horizon. Also, "Tarantul-III" carriers two more sensors (both of them are UNJAMMABLE). First one, MP-123-02, controls cannons. Second, "Pozitiv-E" controls anti-air defenses. Both sensors are linked, which gives additional 10% of efficiency. Attacking this boat with cannons is suicide. Attacking it with missiles is suicide too, because two PK-10 systems will release swarms of mixed decoy charges, which distract ABSOLUTELY ANY targeting system: radiolocators, lasers, televisors, optics, mixed, and so on. "Tarantul-III" has excellent three-stage protection against radiation, chemical and biological weaponry. And tiny "Tarantul-III" boat is extremely fast too.

 

By, the way, have you read stupid books by Tom Clansy? When he writes about naval combats in his stupid book for cretins "Red Storm Rising", HE DOESN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT "MOSKITS", WHILE GIVING AMERICANS UNEXISTANT SCI-FI WEAPONRY! IT IS LIKE WRITING ABOUT WAR WITH **** GERMANY, "FORGETTING" TO MENTION MESSERSHMIDTS AND PANZERS! You call Tom Clansy "military expert", we call him STUPID CAPITALIST PROPAGANDA WRITER!

 

All empires - Roman, Osman, Persian, Austro-Hungurian, and, of course, Third Reich, died in combat. THEN WHY SOVIET EMPIRE FALLEN, HAVING ALL TECHNOLOGIES, RESOURCES AND SPIRIT NECESSARY FOR BECOMING MASTER OF PLANET?! SOVIET UNION SMASHED TREMENDOUS STEEL LEGIONS OF **** TECHNOEMPIRE, SO WHY IT DROPPED WEAPONS BEFORE PATHETIC ALLIANCE OF TRADERS AND PIRATES?! Now, that was not economic collapse. In 1985 year Soviet Union had enough money for army, for free (ABSOLUTELY FREE) education (Soviet education system was best in the world), on free healthcare, on cheap food (only 20 copecks per loaf of bread!), on free training and sport centers, on free recreation, and so on. And USSR also could afford spending humongous resources to support other communist countries around the globe! You call it "economical collapse"?! NONSENSE! The only reason was corruption. Just plain corruption. Traitors and thiefs are human garbage. Russian "democrats" accuse Stalin in purges? But from point of ethnogenesis theory, purges are necessary element of national security. From point of Soviet ethics, those who serve Motherland are True Men, and those who think only about their petty ambitions are human garbage. Cleansing garbage is necessary for survival of nation. Stalin's collectivisation was NOT against kulaks (serednyaks and bednyaks were purged too) it was against podkulachniks - human garbage. No matter who much money they had, they were garbage, which should be cleansed. Without purges, Soviet victory in WW2 was impossible. Repressions are necessary measure under ideocracy. Without repressions, ideocracy turns into oligarchy (Stalin was ideocrat, Khrushev and Brezhnev were mere oligarchs). When patriots take power in Russia, they will start repressions again. We will cleanse Motherland of garbage once and for all! Go Communism!

[Humodour]

I don't know what kind of Stalinist super-skunk you're smoking. But I'd quite like to try some.

 

This.

[Walsingham]

I don't know what kind of Stalinist super-skunk you're smoking. But I'd quite like to try some.

 

This.

 

And I don't even smoke up under normal circumstances. This would be a special occasion.

[Humodour]

I don't know what kind of Stalinist super-skunk you're smoking. But I'd quite like to try some.

 

This.

 

And I don't even smoke up under normal circumstances. This would be a special occasion.

 

Oh, I do, so I would be happy to join you!

[Walsingham]

Russian technology is absolutely superior. One Russian rouble beats millions of American bucks on battlefield. Here's another proof of this obvious fact. In 1980ies, glorious Red Army was equipped with 3M-80E "Moskit" missile (NATO classification: "Sunburn" - guess how it get this name!).

 

Because it had a side-effect of transporting true proletarians in its flightpath to delightful villas in the heart of the sun, where they would improve their minds and eat sturgeon.

Edited May 12, 2011 by Walsingham

[Meshugger]

I said before and i say it again. The Soviets military superiority dwindled due to one.simple.economic.reason. People can spew a wall of text of god knows what but they still have to face a simple truth:

 

The Soviets didn't calculate the costs of logistics.

Edited May 12, 2011 by Meshugger

[HoonDing]

Well, they sure showed Chechnya Georgia at any rate.

[Monte Carlo]

Well, they sure showed Chechnya Georgia at any rate.

 

Actually the Soviet army crumbled because of poor quality jackboots and the fact that they never issued socks.

[CoM_Solaufein]

Looks like some people are just bitter because they lost the Cold War.

[Freedom Fighter]

Just another post about glorious Soviet supertechnology. If you are annoyed with my articles, just don't read them. I know there are people here who are interested, so that's why I continue posting my articles. So, here I go.

 

The Russians have developed a stealth fighter that does not evade radar because of the wave-absorbing materials from which it is constructed, but because the plane is surrounded by a plasma shield which does all the absorbing of enemy radar. This is, indeed, an innovative approach. However, plasma emits a strong heat, so it would seem plausible that a heat-sensing radar would readily register the Russian stealth aircraft surrounded by a plasma shield. So, the question of the hour becomes, 'does American deployed radar capability include a heat-seeking radar'?

 

Evidently not, since Russian stealth fighter-bombers on 17 October 2000 suddenly appeared directly overhead of the American carrier, Kitty Hawk, without being picked up by any of her radars, nor any of the accompanying Aegis Cruiser radars [supposedly the most sophisticated in the world], nor any of the other assorted radars the U.S. Navy employs. These Russian stealth fighter-bombers penetrated to the very heart of this American Naval Carrier Group -- the aircraft carrier itself -- and would have blown her to pieces had this been a real war situation! News reports told us that, once the Russian bombers were visually seen over the carrier, it took the Kitty Hawk 40 minutes to get our first interceptor into the air!

[Walsingham]

Please tell me you are not LoF.

 

Because if there's two of you then there might be as many as five, and you could have a party.

[lord of flies]

I miss the days of 6'8" Italian Warlord... Something like that... 'Obyknven/LoF' is one of those new breed of trolls, that actually reply to keep trolling, its weak man! WEAK!

I'm not ****ing Obyknven, stop with this ****. I don't talk about 'warlike races' or other nationalist bull****. Oby is a perfectly normal Russian nationalist, whereas I am an American revolutionary socialist. I would never describe modern Russia as "awesome," except in the sense that at least it isn't currently bombing 5-6 countries (Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia). It's still a ****ty country that replaced a large part of the ~glorious Soviet Union~ and Putin is a right-wing autocrat.

 

The fact that we both hold heterodox opinions doesn't make us the same person, and this forums' insistence on it is just making you look bad!

[Hurlshort]

Are people really still interacting with these cartoon characters? They aren't real, they are just bizarre bots.

[Monte Carlo]

I miss the days of 6'8" Italian Warlord... Something like that... 'Obyknven/LoF' is one of those new breed of trolls, that actually reply to keep trolling, its weak man! WEAK!

I'm not ****ing Obyknven, stop with this ****. I don't talk about 'warlike races' or other nationalist bull****. Oby is a perfectly normal Russian nationalist, whereas I am an American revolutionary socialist. I would never describe modern Russia as "awesome," except in the sense that at least it isn't currently bombing 5-6 countries (Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia). It's still a ****ty country that replaced a large part of the ~glorious Soviet Union~ and Putin is a right-wing autocrat.

 

The fact that we both hold heterodox opinions doesn't make us the same person, and this forums' insistence on it is just making you look bad!

 

National People's Front of Judea? **** off, splitters!

[Walsingham]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13546177

 

Do business... go to jail.

[Guard Dog]

If you are annoyed with my articles, just don't read them

 

Way ahead of you.

[sorophx]

sorry about the bump, posting in an epic thread